Freeside is not so free

[Zes]

I'm currently interested in helping folks in freeside. I don't like Kings charging people money for clean water, I talked to Tapper and King himself but i didn't see any option to talk about this situation.

Should i kill them all and end this misery? I don't like to try and see all possible quest situations so i'm asking you people :) Is there anyone i can talk to and solve this without violence?

[Zes]

I think i found a lead. Julie Farkas, that doctor at Old Mormon Fort.

[Valden21]

The Kings are actually one of the better gangs in the game. Their main focus is on keeping Freeside from getting consumed by violence, and they have their hands full with that. It's only the Courier whom they charge for water; the residents of Freeside get their water from the Followers of the Apocalypse, at the Old Mormon Fort. Look at it this way: the Followers help the people of Freeside, while the Kings make sure that the Followers can do that safely.

[R.O.T.O.R.]

Some of the quests in Freeside were some of the first made for the game, so they get somewhat inconsistent at points
the quest tied to the water pump (even if it never actually says this) is High Times given by Julie Farkas

[Zes]

I see, I did a quest and got awarded, so i can use the water for free now. But that wasn't what i was looking for *sigh*. I think that's all about i could do with water.

btw I noticed the King is a nice person with good manners. I wish i didn't kill 3 Kings members by the main entrance, just because they pushed me around a bit. And another one just inside by the door. He responded my attack i guess. But the rest of the King members seems unaware. Well.. They look like some highschool gang :) Harmless i guess. I'll leave them alone.

Is there anything else i can do for these people, in freeside?

[R.O.T.O.R.]

There are a number of quests dotted around but the amazing thing about Freeside is that the best possible ending for them is the NCR ending

[Luis the Uma Loving Wizard]

You could just pay the Garret twins a boatload of caps to speak positively about you

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Zes:

I see, I did a quest and got awarded, so i can use the water for free now. But that wasn't what i was looking for *sigh*. I think that's all about i could do with water.

btw I noticed the King is a nice person with good manners. I wish i didn't kill 3 Kings members by the main entrance, just because they pushed me around a bit. And another one just inside by the door. He responded my attack i guess. But the rest of the King members seems unaware. Well.. They look like some highschool gang :) Harmless i guess. I'll leave them alone.

Is there anything else i can do for these people, in freeside?

Outside of the NCR main quest, yes there is. There's two quests that involve you helping out the people of Freeside. The first is called "High TImes"; you get it from Dr. Julie Farkas at the Old Mormon Fort, and it involves helping two addicts, one of them an alcoholic and the other a junkie, get clean. The second quest, "G.I Blues", has you helping the Kings drive out a guy who was running a protection scheme, followed by you helping the King investigate stories of attacks on Freeside residents by NCR soldiers. Both those quests have peaceful methods of resolving them, and peacefully resolving "G.I Blues" even gives you way to reach a peaceful resolution in a NCR main quest later on.

[supernova backshots]

Originally posted by Zes:

I'm currently interested in helping folks in freeside. I don't like Kings charging people money for clean water, I talked to Tapper and King himself but i didn't see any option to talk about this situation.

Should i kill them all and end this misery? I don't like to try and see all possible quest situations so i'm asking you people :) Is there anyone i can talk to and solve this without violence?

Don't side with the NCR, siding with Yes Man seems ideal because you can make the bills whatever you want, IF that's possible, this game is 11 years old.

[Zes]

I've dealt with the situation. Kings are good at keeping people in order around freeside but they had problems with NCR (which is kinda my side)

But then i realized the problem wasn't the Kings but just a guy named Pacer. The same guy who charged me for talking to King himself (I didn't like the guy even at the first look, i usually am good at reading people :) And it turned out to be he is the one who was creating problems, he almost killed some NCR messengers who Major Kiaran sent to them, and King didn't even know about them..

NCR ambassador wanted me to deal with that Pacer guy, simply killing him would have seen as a hostility between them and NCR and i found another way. But Pacer didn't sit tight and attacked some NCR outpost and almost got himself killed (some king members died though) I informed their leader and made a deal.

Peace at last. Now NCR and Kings are good, co-operating on Freeside.
I feel better now :)

[Rez Elwin]

Originally posted by scaly mud hugger:

Originally posted by Zes:

I'm currently interested in helping folks in freeside. I don't like Kings charging people money for clean water, I talked to Tapper and King himself but i didn't see any option to talk about this situation.

Should i kill them all and end this misery? I don't like to try and see all possible quest situations so i'm asking you people :) Is there anyone i can talk to and solve this without violence?

Don't side with the NCR, siding with Yes Man seems ideal because you can make the bills whatever you want, IF that's possible, this game is 11 years old.

Yes Man is one of the worst endings for anyone outside of Vegas, that includes freeside. You kick out both the NCR and the Legion then also peace out yourself while Yes Man starts his windows update. While he is down and you're gone everything goes to ♥♥♥♥.

[brawler]

Originally posted by Rez Elwin:

Originally posted by scaly mud hugger:

Don't side with the NCR, siding with Yes Man seems ideal because you can make the bills whatever you want, IF that's possible, this game is 11 years old.

Yes Man is one of the worst endings for anyone outside of Vegas, that includes freeside. You kick out both the NCR and the Legion then also peace out yourself while Yes Man starts his windows update. While he is down and you're gone everything goes to ♥♥♥♥.

idk how people still use this talking point, but devs have stated that that line in the ending just means Yes man will only take orders from you.

On the topic, I don't really see a problem with it. The Kings effectively do their best to keep freeside safe, and all they want in return is a water tax? That sounds fine.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Zes:

I've dealt with the situation. Kings are good at keeping people in order around freeside but they had problems with NCR (which is kinda my side)

But then i realized the problem wasn't the Kings but just a guy named Pacer. The same guy who charged me for talking to King himself (I didn't like the guy even at the first look, i usually am good at reading people :) And it turned out to be he is the one who was creating problems, he almost killed some NCR messengers who Major Kiaran sent to them, and King didn't even know about them..

NCR ambassador wanted me to deal with that Pacer guy, simply killing him would have seen as a hostility between them and NCR and i found another way. But Pacer didn't sit tight and attacked some NCR outpost and almost got himself killed (some king members died though) I informed their leader and made a deal.

Peace at last. Now NCR and Kings are good, co-operating on Freeside.
I feel better now :)

Yeah, Pacer's stupid like that. He genuinely wants to keep the people of Freeside safe, but he's got a gigantic chip on his shoulder towards anyone not from Freeside, and that leads him to scheme against them. That, in turn, makes things even worse for Freeside. He even keeps knowledge of what he's doing from the King, even though he's the King's lieutenant and the two are supposed to be best friends since childhood.

[Fryman]

Originally posted by R.O.T.O.R.:

There are a number of quests dotted around but the amazing thing about Freeside is that the best possible ending for them is the NCR ending

They can get a good ending in House playthroughs if you complete GI Blues without telling The King about the peace envoys NCR sent to him. During Hoover Dam they strike out against NCR troops stationed in Freeside, so House lets them keep control of Freeside as a reward for their assistance.

[Zes]

about freeside ending;
I upgraded securitrons and kicked both ncr and legion out of the region but i was told that crime and wounded, junkie people increased after ending. why didnt robots maintain order?

[R.O.T.O.R.]

Originally posted by Terms of Enrampagement =HKC=:

Originally posted by R.O.T.O.R.:

There are a number of quests dotted around but the amazing thing about Freeside is that the best possible ending for them is the NCR ending

They can get a good ending in House playthroughs if you complete GI Blues without telling The King about the peace envoys NCR sent to him. During Hoover Dam they strike out against NCR troops stationed in Freeside, so House lets them keep control of Freeside as a reward for their assistance.

the good NCR ending is them working with the Kings to fix Freeside, this ending is the best out of ALL of them
Rather than House just saying ♥♥♥♥ you to everyone not in Vegas.