Guns vs energy weapons

[Stealth-Boy 3000]

In your opinion and why? Also which do you think is objectively stronger/better in general?

I must say after about 15 characters, I finally really gave energy wepons a shot (pun intended), and am blown away by the amazingness of it. Am rocking fully upgraded laser rifle GRA, and honestly don't even need the stronger? variants (like tri-beam l.r.). I'm really having a blast with this char and think that energy weapons seem stronger than guns to me.

Your thoughts? =)

[Doctor Go-Go]

Energy weapons are for geeks. You're not a MAN or a tough lady UNTIL your weapons make some pops and bangs or booms and kabooms.

[Amanoob105]

Originally posted by Stealth-Boy 3000:

Also which do you think is objectively stronger/better in general?

The one that's being used right .

By and large energy guns tend to work out as below.

Plasma with its slow RoF tends to be all about the damage per shot and how many of them you can put out.
That said the plasma defender feels like it's trying to find a middle ground between the two options when fully upgraded.

Laser with it's higher RoF (and the rifles upgrade that lets you shoot two beams for the price of one trigger pull) tends to be all about that greater opportunity to land a crit.
Unless you get your hands on Pew Pew as that laser pistol does damage per shot on par with most large rifles. Only the biggest of targets fail to go down after a shot or two.

Guns is a very, very broad category of wepaons ranging from pistols to SMGs to assault rifles to sniper rifles to shotguns to a minigun.
And that's not even accounting for some of the crazier ammo options some of them have.

If sniping I tend to prefer something from the guns options. If getting stuck in at closer ranges I prefer my sci fi laser rifle. Never really used any of the shotgun style (e.g. tri-beam) energy weapon options.

[Doctor Go-Go]

The Laser RCW is trash compared to the laser rifle as far as I'm concerned, but I've never had and energy weapon focused build THAT I can remember.

[Danny]

Explosives! Want big boom! :D

[Damon]

Energy is fun for sure. But enemies that turns into goo/ash may not respawn anymore so you need mod to fix the bug (not sure if any of those mods work).

[Danny]

Originally posted by Damon:

Energy is fun for sure. But enemies that turns into goo/ash may not respawn anymore so you need mod to fix the bug (not sure if any of those mods work).

Just get the basic bug fixing mods, it's fixed with those.
Like the ones Gopher mentions in his Youtube tutorial. ^^

[Akasaki]

Gun can go sneaky and be silenced. Cooler with Bloody Mess and other Perks. Sleepytyme and Christine's Cos are the top stars. AMR is real kill.

Energy weapon with some suitable Perks can spice up the game and can nuke the sh-t up with Meltdown. Plasma is hard, Laser is fast. But gauss rifle (ycs/186) is going boom.

I like both of them equally.

[red255]

Yeah, thoughts, Laser Pistol GRA with +3 damage modification is as good as you can get in the early game, Bulk rounds and just clean up the trash get the set lasers for fun perk.

but the AMMO is heavy on hardcore mode.

the 9mm SMG is also found in goodsprings and has a unique variant which with the grunt and hand loader perks SHREDS cazadores, nightstalkers and feral ghouls. Chews thru ammo though, but with Lonesome road Commisarry being available its not that big of a deal.

anyways Energy weapons are solid guns great for dealing with armor, but late game I'm probably doing ballistics except the compliance regulator. Ammo weight.

[psychotron666]

Energy is technically more powerful, but I don't like using them. I use jsawyer, so ammo weighs too much with energy weapons and you use too much of it (many of the good ones use 2 or more shots).

[mikaeliby]

It´s just what you choose to level. It´s the fkng future soof course I choose energy weapons :)

I am now past level 50 and have 100 on both, and there is no difference in actual power.

[Danny]

Originally posted by Doctor Go-Go:

Energy weapons are for geeks. You're not a MAN or a tough lady UNTIL your weapons make some pops and bangs or booms and kabooms.

A real man or woman uses Melee or Unarmed.
Especially to beat up Deathclaws >:D

[amiablequinn]

Originally posted by Doctor Go-Go:

The Laser RCW is trash compared to the laser rifle as far as I'm concerned, but I've never had and energy weapon focused build THAT I can remember.

This. With the right perks you can cruise through the whole game in survival max difficulty with a fully modded laser rifle. Use Max charge for heavy armored foes and optimal charge for everything else. Grab the mf hyperbreeder at some point to get the pistol part of the laser perk.

The way laser rifle work you should build for crits, it excels at sniper and hip shooting but is an OK vats weapon when you need to go after annoying enemies (cazadores).

[Danny]

Originally posted by amiablequinn:

Originally posted by Doctor Go-Go:

The Laser RCW is trash compared to the laser rifle as far as I'm concerned, but I've never had and energy weapon focused build THAT I can remember.

This. With the right perks you can cruise through the whole game in survival max difficulty with a fully modded laser rifle. Use Max charge for heavy armored foes and optimal charge for everything else. Grab the mf hyperbreeder at some point to get the pistol part of the laser perk.

The way laser rifle work you should build for crits, it excels at sniper and hip shooting but is an OK vats weapon when you need to go after annoying enemies (cazadores).

MF Hyperbreeder Alpha is also good against anything weaker than a fire Gecko.
And I found particularly effective against Cazadors, as it seems to have a high degree of auto aiming. :D

[pcdeltalink]

Honestly as a stealth sniper I find it near impossible to drop the good old anti material rifle for all my needs. Enough power to annihilate anything from about as far away as I could possibly need. And my gosh the sounds it makes are soooo good.

[Magic Spazm]

Anti materiel is fun but is gauss is as well.