S.P.E.C.I.A.L. got low

[Sparky dragon]

After some time of gameplay I noticed that Endurance, Agility and Perception are lower by 1 point. There is no negative effects on me in pipboy. What does it mean??? I am 18 lel I do not want to restart the game because of the stupid bug!

[Microsoft227sam]

Most likely your traits.

[Sparky dragon]

Originally posted by microsoft227sam:

Most likely your traits.

I have Skilled and Hoarder ( and I have 330 lbs at the moment so I have no penalty)

[Perfectly Valid School of Magic]

Do you have radiation posioning? That can lower some of your S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stats.

[Sparky dragon]

Originally posted by Chuck The Skunk:

There is no negative effects on me in pipboy.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Some gear items?

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Some gear items?

Even if they were from gear, negative effects would show up in the Pip-Boy.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Gear bonuses show on Pip-boy?

[E.P.D. Gaffney]

Use player.getavinfo and see what you find, first of all.

Second, do you have any mods or have you used any console commands? I can't recall any vanilla perks with the potential to reduce attributes, but some in More Perks can, and it's possible some were bugged in the vanilla game that were sorted out with YUP, which you'd encounter if not using YUP.

You can use the console to fix this if we can't work out the cause. No need to start over.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Gear bonuses show on Pip-boy?

IIRC, they do. For example, equip Power Armor and check your Pip-boy's Status tab, under "Special".

[E.P.D. Gaffney]

Gear bonuses absolutely do show on the Pip-Boy. However, it's possible OP was used to wearing gear that buffed stats and now isn't, though unlikely they'd have neglected to check that.

[Sparky dragon]

I do not have any perks affecting Special. I have NO EFFECTS in pipboy EFFECT tab. At all! I did note that in the first message. No active effects!

I do hasve mods but none of them affects attributes in any way. Besides without mods the problem still exists.

[Scythia]

If you added a mod that changed the properties of equipment while you were wearing it, then you could have a stat penalty now and it would not show in the Pipboy.

ie If I installed a mod that changed the bonuses of a Pre-War Parkstroller outfit to +1 Cha, and my character had been wearing a Pre-War Parkstroller outfit, then I would have a -1 Agi penalty (the original effect of the outfit).

This happened to me more than once.

[E.P.D. Gaffney]

First of all, if you want help, don't behave that way. I was very polite to you even though you could just google this yourself.

Second, I told you to use a console command and see what results it printed, and you didn't mention that. That is the key to solving your problem. Not that I mean to get angry with you for ignoring that.

Third, not everything turns up in your Effects area anyway, though you should have a + or - sign next to the relevant attributes in your S.P.E.C.I.A.L. tab.

Fourth, that was largely in relation to bugged perks, as I stated.

Fifth, you may not know something affects attributes it affects if it's a mod, as mods can be made by anyone and can be dirty.


Now, again, open the console and type player.getavinfo followed by the name of the attribute you believe is lowered. Example:

player.getavinfo Endurance

[Sparky dragon]

Originally posted by E.P.D. Gaffney:

First of all, if you want help, don't behave that way. I was very polite to you even though you could just google this yourself.



Second, I told you to use a console command and see what results it printed, and you didn't mention that. That is the key to solving your problem. Not that I mean to get angry with you for ignoring that.

Third, not everything turns up in your Effects area anyway, though you should have a + or - sign next to the relevant attributes in your S.P.E.C.I.A.L. tab.

Fourth, that was largely in relation to bugged perks, as I stated.

Fifth, you may not know something affects attributes it affects if it's a mod, as mods can be made by anyone and can be dirty.


Now, again, open the console and type player.getavinfo followed by the name of the attribute you believe is lowered. Example:

player.getavinfo Endurance

1. I just answered the questions
2. I did nit notice that. English is my third language I can subconciously ingore something I cannot understand.
3. I have (-) signs against the lowered stats.
4. I have no perk affect stats.
5. I was playing with those mods till 17 llvl and the stats were okay.
6.I will do it as soon as I will get in the game again, thank you.

[E.P.D. Gaffney]

My point was that whilst I get you're frustrated, everyone here is trying to help you, so try not to become upset with someone for missing something in your first post, and more so if you're missing something in someone else's.

All the same, you're very welcome. Let me know what you see when you use that command, and let me warn you in advance not to use SetAV or ForceAV commands to fix this. You will most likely be using ModAV, unless we can determine the cause and fix it by doing something in the game rather than in the console.

Never use SetAV or ForceAV. Never.