Fallout: New Vegas

Fallout: New Vegas

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deeleak Dec 15, 2017 @ 5:56am
Every 30 minutes my game freeze and crash
I cannot even close it, I have to turn off my pc to be able to close the game, that's getting really annoying
Originally posted by E.P.D. Gaffney:
Glad to hear it. Without NVSR, I believe most Windows 10 users will now experience a crash on exit. If you use Alt-F4 instead, there's a very good chance the game is running in the background. Use Task Manager (or cmd or Process Explorer or whatever you want) to kill the process. Or try NVSR again but with most of its features disabled. bFastExit is the one that governs this behaviour.
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Pat's Cat Dec 15, 2017 @ 6:01am 
Do you have mods to increase stability and fix bugs installed? (see pinned thread)

And even then the game might still crash, yeah. You should always be able to use ctrl+alt+del and then select the task manager.
But before you do that, start the task manager once when not playing already, and make sure to set it to be "always on top" in the options, otherwise the crashed NV will prevent you from alt-tabbing to it.
deeleak Dec 15, 2017 @ 6:08am 
Originally posted by Pat's Cat:
Do you have mods to increase stability and fix bugs installed? (see pinned thread)

And even then the game might still crash, yeah. You should always be able to use ctrl+alt+del and then select the task manager.
But before you do that, start the task manager once when not playing already, and make sure to set it to be "always on top" in the options, otherwise the crashed NV will prevent you from alt-tabbing to it.
I have NVAC New Vegas Anti Crash only
Pat's Cat Dec 15, 2017 @ 6:23am 
Originally posted by ~Dee Laek:
I have NVAC New Vegas Anti Crash only

Can't hurt to try out some other mods then.

In any case, NV might still crash, so set your task manager to "always on top".

Good luck!
Last edited by Pat's Cat; Dec 15, 2017 @ 6:24am
deeleak Dec 15, 2017 @ 6:25am 
Originally posted by Pat's Cat:
Originally posted by ~Dee Laek:
I have NVAC New Vegas Anti Crash only

Can't hurt to try out some other mods then.

In any case, NV might still crash, so set your task manager to "always on top".

Good luck!
Thanks !
E.P.D. Gaffney Dec 15, 2017 @ 12:42pm 
NVSR was the standard stability mod alongside NVAC for ages. Get that if you don't have Windows 10.

If you do have Windows 10, make sure that you don't have NVSR already, and if you do, try your game without it.

If you have Windows 10 but don't have NVSR yet, try it but it's causing freezes for a lot of Windows 10 users (whilst improving performance for others, as it always used to do before November 2017).


Ctrl+Shift+Esc is a better combination for the task manager.

If you continue to have problems, post back but do include your specs and any mods you're using.
Last edited by E.P.D. Gaffney; Dec 22, 2017 @ 3:44pm
deeleak Dec 15, 2017 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by E.P.D. Gaffney:
NVSR was the standard stability mod alongside NVSR for ages. Get that if you don't have Windows 10.

If you do have Windows 10, make sure that you don't have NVSR already, and if you do, try your game without it.

If you have Windows 10 but don't have NVSR yet, try it but it's causing freezes for a lot of Windows 10 users (whilst improving performance for others, as it always used to do before November 2017).


Ctrl+Shift+Esc is a better combination for the task manager.

If you continue to have problems, post back but do include your specs and any mods you're using.
The problem isn't solved yet.
Specs:
Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4500U @1.80GHz 2.30GHz
RAM : 8.00GB
Graphics card : AMD Radeon 8600M HD series
System : Windows10 64-bit
Mods i'm using:
0 0 FalloutNV.esm
1 1 Project Nevada - Core.esm
2 2 Project Nevada - Equipment.esm
3 3 Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm
4 4 Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp
5 5 Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp
6 6 Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm
7 7 CompanionInfAmmo.esm
8 8 More Perks.esm
9 9 oHUD.esm
10 a The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
11 b DYNAVISION 3.esp
12 c EVE FNV - NO DLC.esp
13 d Tracer nv.esp
14 e RWD-NV v1.3 [Alternative Version].esp
15 f CompanionInfAmmoCheat.esp
16 10 CompanionInfAmmoOptional.esp
17 11 More Perks Update.esp
18 12 NVBabyDeathclawCommander.esp
19 13 FlashlightNVSE.esp
20 14 NCR Rearmament v1.5.esp
21 15 patch.esp
22 16 ILO - Fallout New Vegas.esp
23 17 FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting - No DLC.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Tchélvis Podre Dec 15, 2017 @ 2:10pm 


Originally posted by ~Dee Laek:
Originally posted by E.P.D. Gaffney:
NVSR was the standard stability mod alongside NVSR for ages. Get that if you don't have Windows 10.

If you do have Windows 10, make sure that you don't have NVSR already, and if you do, try your game without it.

If you have Windows 10 but don't have NVSR yet, try it but it's causing freezes for a lot of Windows 10 users (whilst improving performance for others, as it always used to do before November 2017).


Ctrl+Shift+Esc is a better combination for the task manager.

If you continue to have problems, post back but do include your specs and any mods you're using.
The problem isn't solved yet.
Specs:
Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4500U @1.80GHz 2.30GHz
RAM : 8.00GB
Graphics card : AMD Radeon 8600M HD series
System : Windows10 64-bit
Mods i'm using:
0 0 FalloutNV.esm
1 1 Project Nevada - Core.esm
2 2 Project Nevada - Equipment.esm
3 3 Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm
4 4 Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp
5 5 Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp
6 6 Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm
7 7 CompanionInfAmmo.esm
8 8 More Perks.esm
9 9 oHUD.esm
10 a The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
11 b DYNAVISION 3.esp
12 c EVE FNV - NO DLC.esp
13 d Tracer nv.esp
14 e RWD-NV v1.3 [Alternative Version].esp
15 f CompanionInfAmmoCheat.esp
16 10 CompanionInfAmmoOptional.esp
17 11 More Perks Update.esp
18 12 NVBabyDeathclawCommander.esp
19 13 FlashlightNVSE.esp
20 14 NCR Rearmament v1.5.esp
21 15 patch.esp
22 16 ILO - Fallout New Vegas.esp
23 17 FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting - No DLC.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Try to uninstall some stuff, maybe there's a culprit in this load order
E.P.D. Gaffney Dec 15, 2017 @ 2:10pm 
That's actually a lot of stuff. In future, if asking for help with a game that's not working and which you have modded, you really do need to list all the mods except in special circumstances, or at the very least tell people that your game is modded.

Second order of business, that's your load order, which is of course needed, but load orders don't tell us things like what texture mods you have or stability plug-ins.

So, of all the mods listed on the pinned thread mentioned above, which do you have? Are you using the 4GB Patcher? Make sure it's the latest one. It patches your game and does not use a separate launcher, whereas the older versions do use a separate launcher. If you are using a separate launcher to launch your game, not only are you not up to date, we'd want to confirm that NVSE is working, because if it isn't, your stability mods aren't working, either.

What retextures are you using?

Did you have NVSR? Did you try removing it? Did you try adding it?

Try going through not only the main post of this but the comments, especially Roy's:
https://taleoftwowastelands.com/content/ttw-performance-guide

Edit: Almost forgot, after that, start trying to troubleshoot that load order. I'm not familiar with the behaviour of most of the mods on it, but I do know that Project nevada conflicts with a whole load of stuff.
Last edited by E.P.D. Gaffney; Dec 15, 2017 @ 2:13pm
deeleak Dec 15, 2017 @ 2:55pm 
Originally posted by E.P.D. Gaffney:
That's actually a lot of stuff. In future, if asking for help with a game that's not working and which you have modded, you really do need to list all the mods except in special circumstances, or at the very least tell people that your game is modded.

Second order of business, that's your load order, which is of course needed, but load orders don't tell us things like what texture mods you have or stability plug-ins.

So, of all the mods listed on the pinned thread mentioned above, which do you have? Are you using the 4GB Patcher? Make sure it's the latest one. It patches your game and does not use a separate launcher, whereas the older versions do use a separate launcher. If you are using a separate launcher to launch your game, not only are you not up to date, we'd want to confirm that NVSE is working, because if it isn't, your stability mods aren't working, either.

What retextures are you using?

Did you have NVSR? Did you try removing it? Did you try adding it?

Try going through not only the main post of this but the comments, especially Roy's:
https://taleoftwowastelands.com/content/ttw-performance-guide

Edit: Almost forgot, after that, start trying to troubleshoot that load order. I'm not familiar with the behaviour of most of the mods on it, but I do know that Project nevada conflicts with a whole load of stuff.
Sorry, I forgot to mention that my game was modded, I do have some retexture mod like Hall of Equipement and Hall of Face and Super Mutants 4k Retextures and finaly Weapon Retexture Project WRP.

Yes I do have stability plug-ins like NVAC New Vegas Anti Crash and yes I do have NVSR and never tried to remove it.

No I'm not using the the 4GB Patcher but the main launcher for Fallout NV only.
E.P.D. Gaffney Dec 15, 2017 @ 3:25pm 
Well, you have a whole mess of basic problems in that case that should be solved easily, unless you have a load order problem on top of this.

First, that 4GB Patcher is literally mandatory for higher-resolution textures, so grab that.

Second, do not use 4K anything. You don't really have the specs for it. That mutant pack has a 2K option and I'm using it myself. It looks fantastic.

2K is the highest you should go, but I'd honestly stick with 1K if possible (mutant pack is only 2K I think).

If you still have problems, remove NVSR.
Last edited by E.P.D. Gaffney; Dec 15, 2017 @ 11:01pm
=Snappy= Dec 15, 2017 @ 9:16pm 
lock/crash where the overriding common factor is "time", the first thing I'd check is a GPU heat issue. make sure fans/vents/heatsinks/etc. are free of dust, case has adequate ventilation, ambient temperature isn't too high, etc.

Originally posted by ~Dee Laek:
I cannot even close it, I have to turn off my pc to be able to close the game, that's getting really annoying
^also common with GPU overheat.
Last edited by =Snappy=; Dec 15, 2017 @ 9:16pm
E.P.D. Gaffney Dec 15, 2017 @ 11:16pm 
Snappy raises good points. My money is still on what I said earlier, but do check your temperatures as well. If I had to recommend just one overall utility for that, it would be Speccy, but I could list you about twenty pieces of software I use regularly if you're interested.

As for dust, though I don't believe that's the cause of this problem in particular, you are just a bad PC owner if you're not keeping that stuff out of your PC. Compressed air will sort you out fairly lively.
deeleak Dec 16, 2017 @ 3:11am 
Originally posted by =Snappy=:
lock/crash where the overriding common factor is "time", the first thing I'd check is a GPU heat issue. make sure fans/vents/heatsinks/etc. are free of dust, case has adequate ventilation, ambient temperature isn't too high, etc.

Originally posted by ~Dee Laek:
I cannot even close it, I have to turn off my pc to be able to close the game, that's getting really annoying
^also common with GPU overheat.
Never had any overheat issues I'm sure about that, I don't think that's the problem because it happens only in Fallout , all my games run perfectly.



Originally posted by E.P.D. Gaffney:
Well, you have a whole mess of basic problems in that case that should be solved easily, unless you have a load order problem on top of this.

First, that 4GB Patcher is literally mandatory for higher-resolution textures, so grab that.

Second, do not use 4K anything. You don't really have the specs for it. That mutant pack has a 2K option and I'm using it myself. It looks fantastic.

2K is the highest you should go, but I'd honestly stick with 1K if possible (mutant pack is only 2K I think).

If you still have problems, remove NVSR.

Yeah I think that's the main reason why my game keeps crashing, I'll try to remove all my retexture mods and tell you if it's fixed or not.
E.P.D. Gaffney Dec 16, 2017 @ 7:31am 
Well, first try using the 4GB patcher, then follow the performance guide I gave you, and then remove NVSR if you still have problems. One of the performance tweaks in that guide for example tells New Vegas to use two CPU cores, which it won't by default.

The only retexture pack I'd expect could cause actual freezes is the mutant one, in an area with a lot of them. I'd expect slowdowns otherwise, not hangs or crashes.

If your game is running fine and then suddenly freezes or crashes at seemingly random points every half-hour, that sounds like the NVSR problem. I was getting about 60 FPS with everything in the game retextured and loads more NPCs than the vanilla game and with weather mods, and then my game would freeze. After removing NVSR, my game is very stuttery but never crashes. If I removed some mods, it would play better, but I don't think I will.
Last edited by E.P.D. Gaffney; Dec 16, 2017 @ 7:32am
deeleak Dec 16, 2017 @ 8:13am 
Originally posted by E.P.D. Gaffney:
Well, first try using the 4GB patcher, then follow the performance guide I gave you, and then remove NVSR if you still have problems. One of the performance tweaks in that guide for example tells New Vegas to use two CPU cores, which it won't by default.

The only retexture pack I'd expect could cause actual freezes is the mutant one, in an area with a lot of them. I'd expect slowdowns otherwise, not hangs or crashes.

If your game is running fine and then suddenly freezes or crashes at seemingly random points every half-hour, that sounds like the NVSR problem. I was getting about 60 FPS with everything in the game retextured and loads more NPCs than the vanilla game and with weather mods, and then my game would freeze. After removing NVSR, my game is very stuttery but never crashes. If I removed some mods, it would play better, but I don't think I will.
I understand, but even when I hadn't NVSR Installed the problem was still here.
I specially installed NVSR hoping It'll fix my freeze problem but who knows maybe removing it will maybe fix it.
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