Random Crashing

[papiandcole]

Hello! When I'm playing the game would randomly crash. I have the game set to my correct Graphics card and I have the mod from Nexxis and I always start the game from the vortex launcher. It will crash no matter what I do. Does anyone know how to fix my problem? (Also another thing that doesn't relate to New Vegas. The vortex launcher doesn't reconize any other games that I have. How do I make it notice them?)

[Lucifer69]

First things first. What mods do you have exactly? NVSE (script extender) cannot be found on Nexus. 4GB Patch, NVSE, NVAC, and NVSR are the general recommended mods for stability.

YUP and Simple saves are honorable mentions. YUP just about fixes every bug while Simple Saves automatically saves every 5 minutes at a max of 5 save slots. Once 5 saves are made it overwrites the oldest first.

If you use 4GB Patcher and NVSE then you can launch with the steam launcher but make sure the Fallout.ini and FalloutPref.ini are both set to read only. Launching via Vortex may not load NVSE/ 4GB properly.

Without more details it would be like a blind man leading a deaf man.

Edit: Last I checked Vortex is fully automatic. However you can click on the Games tab in the top left and then scan for games at the bottom right. Then click on the central tabs. Managed are games you have allowed Vortex to manage. Discovered are games that Vortex has found but has not been allowed to manage yet. Then a list of supported games as the final tab. If it cannot find your game something is wrong as it can detect games installed across multiple drives (it claims this at least I however use MO/ MO2).

[papiandcole]

The only mod that I have for the game is NVAC. Should I download the other games. Also for the vortex issue, do I have to wait for it to be availableon the launcher?

[Lucifer69]

NVAC will not work without NVSE. You must install the script extender. That's your first problem. Second even with those two they likely won't be enough to get the thing to run smooth.

I'll make two more posts. The next one will be links for mods. The final post will be some brief instructions to set it up.

[Lucifer69]

NVSE
http://nvse.silverlock.org/
4GB Patcher
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62552/
NVSR
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34832/
NVAC - you already have this one
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/53635/
Simple Saves - optional
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62181

[Lucifer69]

Download and install 4GB Patcher first. It's a simple drag, drop, click, and install. Takes all of 30 seconds.

NVSE: Copy the .dll and .exe files to your Fallout NV directory. This is usually in your Program Files folder under Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout New Vegas\. If you see files named FalloutNV.exe and FalloutNVLauncher.exe, this is the correct folder.

Once done now open the open the Data folder. Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout New Vegas\Data. Create a new folder in it and name it NVSE. Now open that folder and create a notepad document and name it nvse_config.ini. If it doesn't automatically convert it to a config file (has a gear icon on it) then open the file rename it that same name then save. It should then work. Now copy paste this into it:

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=496
scrapHeapSizeMB=128

Now save it and close it. Now while you still have the NVSE folder open you need to create a folder and name it Plugins. This is where NVAC and NVSR will go. Any additional script extender plugins will also go there.

Open the NVSR config file and make sure its settings look like this:

bManageFPS = 1
bHookCriticalSections = 0
bHookLightCriticalSections = 0
bHookHashtables = 1
bReplaceHeap = 0
bReplaceGetTickCount = 1
bLogToConsole = 0
bFastExit = 1
bFlushLog = 1
iSchedulingResolution = 1
bReplaceRandom = 1
bExperimentalStuff = 0
iMainHookPoint = 1

Navigate down to FPS_Management and change it to this:

bInject_iFPSClamp = 1
fMaximumFPS = 59
fMinimumFPS = 15
iFPS_Report_Period = 15000
fExtraSleepPercent =0.05

That should just about be all you need to get the vanilla game at least playable. You can also download and install Simple Saves to get automatic saves every 5 minutes.

Note: You may need to launch the game once with the NVSE launcher. Just start it up and then exit the game once in the menu.

[papiandcole]

Ok. Thank you for the help

[Lucifer69]

If you still need help there's a few guides, and I can try to get a few friends over here who likely have vastly more experience.

Edit: You can use any launcher to launch the game even the steam app but make sure you set the Fallout.ini and FalloutPref.ini both to read only. They are found in Documents/My Games/FalloutNV. Right click then select properties. You can always change them back if you need to edit the files but always set them to read only when done.

[lil rat]

Is there a place where I can show my modlist? I just started playing Old World Blues DLC and for whatever reason the game crashes if I go beyond the think tank. If I go near the pipes towards the X Research Center? Crash. I go to the very right direction outside the very doors of the Think Tank and I crash, the only mod that might be relevent to the DLC is a Tesla Cannon mod that allows Tesla Cannons to chain on enemies.

[Killaz0073]

Vortex is useless for these old games. Try nexus mod manager beta. Just google it. (Won't let me post the link here for some reason)

[lil rat]

Originally posted by killaz0073:

Vortex is useless for these old games. Try nexus mod manager beta. Just google it. (Won't let me post the link here for some reason)

I use the Nexus Manager, only time I ever use Vortex is to download mods onto Nexus.
EDIT: I don't use Vortex I mean, sometimes I get that mixed up between Nexus' normal Mod Manager download button and that. lol

[Lucifer69]

NMM is good at installing mods but if you need to uninstall good luck. It tends to install all mods directly to the Data folder overwriting the game files. This means when you want to remove mods you'll likely have to delete that entire folder and get a new one since NMM now borked everything.

MO, MO2, and Vortex are all virtual. Nothing is actually installed only linked so that uninstalling is easy and the game is untouched. The biggest difference is Vortex requires the mods to be on the same drive as the game. MO/ MO2 can have mods installed anywhere. If you use a SSD for your OS/ games and an HDD for storage than this means more SSD real estate will be needed for mods. Not a huge deal but I rather keep my SSD light.

I could get more technical as to why NMM is truly the worst mod manager but it wouldn't help much at this point. My suggestion is if you don't understand how something actually works then don't comment on it. Also don't hijack a thread.

[lil rat]

Originally posted by Lucifer69:

NMM is good at installing mods but if you need to uninstall good luck. It tends to install all mods directly to the Data folder overwriting the game files. This means when you want to remove mods you'll likely have to delete that entire folder and get a new one since NMM now borked everything.

MO, MO2, and Vortex are all virtual. Nothing is actually installed only linked so that uninstalling is easy and the game is untouched. The biggest difference is Vortex requires the mods to be on the same drive as the game. MO/ MO2 can have mods installed anywhere. If you use a SSD for your OS/ games and an HDD for storage than this means more SSD real estate will be needed for mods. Not a huge deal but I rather keep my SSD light.

I could get more technical as to why NMM is truly the worst mod manager but it wouldn't help much at this point. My suggestion is if you don't understand how something actually works then don't comment on it. Also don't hijack a thread.

I don't know what you mean by mods not uninstalling in NMM, I've been able to uninstall mods all the time on it, and I'll think about using other mod managers if that's really somehow related to the game crashing, not the mods itself.

[Lucifer69]

If you are getting crashes then you either haven't installed the relevant stability mods, configured them correctly, or NMM has made a mess of the files. NMM cannot handle mod conflicts. Another reason why virtual is vastly superior.

In theory NMM will restore game files upon uninstalled mods but it doesn't. Not all the time. There's a lot of reasons why the concept was abandoned in favor of virtualisation.

In short stop using NMM and just switch. I for one have never had a crash in over 1200 hours of FNV across 4 different computers. XP, Windows 7, 8.1, and now I'm on 10. Only time I get crashes is when I'm testing things I know will likely push Gamebryo too far.