Duster Physics mod

[Johnny Casey]

"Let's make a duster but it's actually attached to pants"
- One of the developers of Obsidian

Any mod that "fixes" this?

[Washell]

"Can we add dusters?"
"No, the engine can't handle it."
"How about if we attach the bottom half to the legs? We can't make a western themed game without dusters!"
"That could work."
- Two of the developers of Obsidian

No mods, too many limitations in the engine to get something that works and looks good. Heck, even today you rarely see games with decent dusters, skirts, dresses, capes and other loose hanging clothes.

[Johnny Casey]

Aww shucks.

[Bankai9212]

Not there fault, fallout 3 did the same thing.

[Johnny Casey]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Not there fault, fallout 3 did the same thing.

I never played Fallout 3, so I don't know if you're telling me the truth or not, but that doesn't matter anyway. Because it means that Obsidian careless followed the exact same wrong path that Bethesda created, without even attempt to correct it. They could've use different engine or something.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Johnny Casey:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Not there fault, fallout 3 did the same thing.

I never played Fallout 3, so I don't know if you're telling me the truth or not, but that doesn't matter anyway. Because it means that Obsidian careless followed the exact same wrong path that Bethesda created, without even attempt to correct it. They could've use different engine or something.

I am, sorry your ro ignorant to google. As for the rest well they had less time to develope nv compared to Beth and fallout 3. So how do you expect them to use a different engine? Despite the engine they improved on the several shortcomings in fallout 3.

[Johnny Casey]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

I am, sorry your ro ignorant to google. As for the rest well they had less time to develope nv compared to Beth and fallout 3. So how do you expect them to use a different engine? Despite the engine they improved on the several shortcomings in fallout 3.

You're right. They indeed had little time to develop this game. But I've seen many people saying the rest ofgames that Obsidian created share the same problem: They lack the completion like FNV, and those games come to same excuse: They don't have time.

And a lot of people say Obsidian don't have time like the publisher, Bethesda was like "Hey you finish this game until this day, okay?! It's an order!", but the developing time was something that developer agreed, too. They thought they could've complete the game by the end, but they didn't. So they were just being greedy and all that.

Considering their other games shared the same problems like FNV, and those games were too, had little time to develop. So they should've known by the time they start developing NV, that they shouldn't make other mistake by agreeing to 'little time to develop'

Story goes out of the picture, but my point is 'They didn't have time' is not a suitable excuse for NV.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Johnny Casey:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

I am, sorry your ro ignorant to google. As for the rest well they had less time to develope nv compared to Beth and fallout 3. So how do you expect them to use a different engine? Despite the engine they improved on the several shortcomings in fallout 3.

You're right. They indeed had little time to develop this game. But I've seen many people saying the rest ofgames that Obsidian created share the same problem: They lack the completion like FNV, and those games come to same excuse: They don't have time.

And a lot of people say Obsidian don't have time like the publisher, Bethesda was like "Hey you finish this game until this day, okay?! It's an order!", but the developing time was something that developer agreed, too. They thought they could've complete the game by the end, but they didn't. So they were just being greedy and all that.

Considering their other games shared the same problems like FNV, and those games were too, had little time to develop. So they should've known by the time they start developing NV, that they shouldn't make other mistake by agreeing to 'little time to develop'

Story goes out of the picture, but my point is 'They didn't have time' is not a suitable excuse for NV.

Not sure what you mean, there is a back and forth regarding time but there newest titles pullers is doing well and I don't think anyone complained about completion.

[Johnny Casey]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Not sure what you mean, there is a back and forth regarding time but there newest titles pullers is doing well and I don't think anyone complained about completion.

If you're talking about Pillars of Eternity 2 they've recently made, then I guess they finally realized their mistake. Good for them or us.

I can't pin-point out each obsidian games that lack the completion due to their little developing time, but I've seen people complaining about it.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Johnny Casey:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Not sure what you mean, there is a back and forth regarding time but there newest titles pullers is doing well and I don't think anyone complained about completion.

If you're talking about Pillars of Eternity 2 they've recently made, then I guess they finally realized their mistake. Good for them or us.

I can't pin-point out each obsidian games that lack the completion due to their little developing time, but I've seen people complaining about it.

Then you don't know, so your simply spouting what others stated. Not just pillars 2 the other one as well. The only other example of content being cut is kotor 2

[Johnny Casey]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Then you don't know, so your simply spouting what others stated. Not just pillars 2 the other one as well. The only other example of content being cut is kotor 2

Well then, forget the part about me saying 'they didn't learn from their past mistake'.

They were greedy, thinking they can finish the game in time, but they didn't.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Johnny Casey:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Then you don't know, so your simply spouting what others stated. Not just pillars 2 the other one as well. The only other example of content being cut is kotor 2

Well then, forget the part about me saying 'they didn't learn from their past mistake'.

They were greedy, thinking they can finish the game in time, but they didn't.

How is that greed? I'm sure they wanted more time but the publisher wouldn't give it.

[Johnny Casey]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

How is that greed? I'm sure they wanted more time but the publisher wouldn't give it.

Like I said, they agreed to Bethesda's suggested finishing timeline. They've made a promise that they can't make.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Johnny Casey:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

How is that greed? I'm sure they wanted more time but the publisher wouldn't give it.

Like I said, they agreed to Bethesda's suggested finishing timeline. They've made a promise that they can't make.

Where does it say they agreed to it? You have the documents what about asking for more time?

[Johnny Casey]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Originally posted by Johnny Casey:

Like I said, they agreed to Bethesda's suggested finishing timeline. They've made a promise that they can't make.

Where does it say they agreed to it? You have the documents what about asking for more time?

https://kotaku.com/5968952/the-knights-of-new-vegas-how-obsidian-survived-countless-catastrophes-and-made-some-of-the-coolest-role-playing-games-ever

Bethesda loved the treatment and immediately greenlit New Vegas, which Obsidian released in October 2010. It was well-received—and according to many critics and fans, better than Fallout 3—but it was also full of bugs. For some people the game was near-unplayable thanks to constant glitches and crashes. Many of the game's issues have since been patched, but for fans paying $60, New Vegas was unforgivable.

"The timeline was compressed," Urquhart said. "It was a timeline we agreed to—I think we bit off a little more than we could chew, and then it was a little hard to recover... We learned some lessons about trying to make too big a game. We also learned some lessons about managing QA.

[Washell]

Originally posted by Johnny Casey:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Where does it say they agreed to it? You have the documents what about asking for more time?

https://kotaku.com/5968952/the-knights-of-new-vegas-how-obsidian-survived-countless-catastrophes-and-made-some-of-the-coolest-role-playing-games-ever

There's some more stuff in here: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/09/06/obsidian-publisher-interview/

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