About the SMMG in Lonesome Road DLC

[Sig]

What are your thoughts about it, is it good or bad?

[Obus UA]

You can use it, if You like it. But, IMHO, LMG or 12.7mm SMG a way better.

[Bansheebutt]

Its damage is pretty good with Jacketed Hollow Points. Though even its base damage is still higher than the LMG. Lower Skill and Strength Requirements too.

Its main advantage is it has some of the lowest spread on an Automatic Weapon, compared to the LMG, 12.7 SMG, and Auto Rifle which have the highest.

[ghpstage]

Agree with Obus UA.
It works well enough, but compares poorly against its proper competition. Truth be told I would favour a 9mm SMG over it let alone the other options.

[Obus UA]

Originally posted by Zaz Bacon:

Its damage is pretty good with Jacketed Hollow Points. Though even its base damage is still higher than the LMG. Lower Skill and Strength Requirements too.

What suggested lvl for LR, 25? At level around 20, it is likely that at least one prefered combat skill will be maxed.
The damage of a single shot is not the only important characteristic for an automatic weapon. This should be taken into account in battle with armored enemies, but not overestimate. The vast majority of opponents in the game are protected at the level of leather armor (<10 DT), not so many have a level of CA protection (~15 DT), a few with 20 DT or higher protection.
LMG damage is 21: in 9 out of 10 cases, at least 50% of the nominal DPS on standard ammo. I myself rarely used LMG, as well as 12.7mm SMG, preferred the riot shotgun for close combat. But in the hands of companions, especially Boone, this is a very powerful tool. They can use extremely cheap surplus rounds without a negative side effects in the form of rapid wear of the barrel. 12.7mm SMG base damage is 36 and one of the highest DPS in game, it is effective even against heavily armored opponents. 12.7mm ammunition is somewhat expensive and rare on sale (in large quantities sold at the NCR base at Vegas Airport and at the dam), but in the second half of the game this is no longer a problem.

Its main advantage is it has some of the lowest spread on an Automatic Weapon, compared to the LMG, 12.7 SMG, and Auto Rifle which have the highest.

I do not consider the spread a big problem for such type of weapon, it is not for sniping. The most likely distance from medium to short. I myself in the game from automatic weapons used the energy RCW laser most often. It, if desired, can be used for a long distance.

[Bansheebutt]

You don't need to "Snipe" with it to notice how much more accurate it is than the 12.7 SMG.
The SMG has a x2 Spread Multiplier. the SMMG has x0.9.

Meaning, the SMG struggles to hit anything outside of short range while the SMMG can hit Melee Enemies like Cazadores and Deathclaws well before they get within striking distance.

Combining that with the Significantly larger Ammo Capacity, the SMMG is a more versatile weapon overall.

[The Burning One]

I honestly could take it or leave it looks cool but I don’t really know why it uses 10mm rounds I know it’s bigger than 5mm but I’ve never seen a minigun that used 10mm and I don’t really feel like it does enough damage for how much the thing weighs

[Brick]

Well the miniguns normal ammo has a natural -10 dt and the ap has -25 dt and x0.95 dmg, while the 10mm only has dt multiplying ammo, except for the base one. So the minigun will be better against high dt enemies since it has much higher fire rate and the lmmmg will have about the same dmg after dt modifiers. I never use the lmmg, I think the minigun is better in every way.

[The Burning One]

Also that special minigun cz270 that you get In devils throat you get more damage from it it may not have that big of a magazine but it shoots really really fast and the damage is better in comparison

[Brick]

Originally posted by The Burning One:

Also that special minigun cz270 that you get In devils throat you get more damage from it it may not have that big of a magazine but it shoots really really fast and the damage is better in comparison

It's more accurate and lighter too, I would pick this as the best automatic gun ( i.e no energy weapons )

[The Burning One]

Originally posted by Daedric Brick:

Originally posted by The Burning One:

Also that special minigun cz270 that you get In devils throat you get more damage from it it may not have that big of a magazine but it shoots really really fast and the damage is better in comparison

It's more accurate and lighter too, I would pick this as the best automatic gun ( i.e no energy weapons )

The only problem is it decreases like 25% faster but still better trade off in comparison