Fast Shot vs Trigger Discipline

[The Doctor]

I can't figure out which one would be better for a generic Guns build.

From what I researched, I found some interesting facts that helped my decisions a bit.

Fast Shot:
20% Faster Firing, 20% Less Accuracy, 20% Cheaper VATS

Trigger Discipline:
20% Slower Firing, 20% More Accuracy, 20% More Expensive VATS


From what I've gathered from this is that both of these traits are very useful when used backwards.

Fast Shot is amazing for slow firing weapons like snipers, since the % decrease is very unnoticeable when the gun is already very accurate, and speeding up a bolt action is very nice.

While on the flip side Trigger Discipline is great for automatic weapons, since the reduced fire rate and increased accuracy saves TONS of ammo from being wasted by missing.


What are your thoughts on these traits. Which one do you guys usually pick?

[MannsOverMeta]

As far as I know, these two traits don't effect automatic weapons.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Trigger_Discipline
"Trigger Discipline does not affect the rate of fire on fully-automatic weapons. This also applies to Fast Shot. This may not actually be a bug but intended behavior, as the real-life concept of trigger discipline does not change the rate of fire of a firearm; only the act of pulling the trigger itself."

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fast_Shot
"Fast Shot does not appear to affect the rate of fire of automatic weapons when used in real-time, only in V.A.T.S. "

Fast Shot is great. Faster and better damage output in exchange for less accuracy, which only really comes into play with gun with noticeble spread or in V.A.T.S., although it's already kinda unreliable to hit things in V.A.T.S. anyways.

Trigger Discipline has its use if you play more carefully and conservatively. Less DPS, but you're more likely to nail a shot in a critical area from a distance or in V.A.T.S. If that's your thing, then this trait is great.

[The Doctor]

That's unfortunate. Guess I'll have to find a mod that fixes the automatic problem.
I always felt more accurate when I selected it though, but I guess that's just the power of placebo effect.

[Bomb Bloke]

Originally posted by The Doctor:

I always felt more accurate when I selected it though

I don't see anything in those articles saying it doesn't affect automatic accuracy.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

i think it boils down to what gun build you wanna make

more costly weapons like the AMR or explosives would obviously benefit more from less VAT costs and firing speed.
Then again alternatively if it doesn't make a big difference more precise > faster firing.

I think it boils down to what perks you'll use too. If you wanna make a mostly agility VAT based build then obviously less costly VAT usage will benefit from fast shot. If not then use trigger discpline, which sorta also benefits rifles and pistols more than other weapons.