Whats with the Nexus and hidden mods?

[Valder]

Started playing this thing again and went on a modding spree, but this time trying to avoid going overboard with all these mods. You just start downloading everything, for example spoon overhaul mod.

Anyway, I remember watching AlChestBreach months ago and keeping tabs on interesting quest mods which I might try. I went back and checked one of them, Lost Lands I believe it was called. Videos of that mod were there sure, but link lead to "this mod is hidden" text. No luck in the google search.

Another one was companion mod. I actually spend some time in Nexus searching it, since I could not remember the name. Long story short in youtube someone was trying that mod and in description the link lead to "hidden mod" thing.

Sure, its their creations or whatever and can do whatever they want, but its kinda strange to remove them, or hide them, once they are uploaded.

[Salamand3r-]

Lots of reasons for it to happen.

Sometimes if a modder gets into a tussle about borrowing assets, they hide the mod until that is resolved.

Occasionally it's a modder who feels they weren't getting enough donations.

It can be a mod that was fundamentally broken in some way, and without the time to fix it the modder just hides or removes it.

I've seen modders who are very poor at dealing with how the internet tends to critique things just hide the mod when they get less than positive feedback.

Those are the main ones I've noticed, but as with anything, it can really be any reason under the sun.

[JankJason]

I hate how Nexus is becoming the main place for mods, I was okay with it for Bethesda games but I feel they are overly too strict and overzealous with their rules that I really don't want to use it for other game mods. Mod sites never used to have an option to hide mods.

Edit:

Originally posted by Pyramid:

Ok boomer

What a pathetic response, you just pulled a stupid and incorrect assumption of me out of your backside, I'm not even of that generation.

Originally posted by Scary Busey:

Originally posted by GRIZZLY_BEAR:

Ok boomer

Heh yep sure showed sure that guy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Trump voter

I'm no sure if you were joking here but you are by far wrong if you think I am a trump supporter or even American in that case.

[Jagom.Sus]

Originally posted by Avoozl:

I hate how Nexus is becoming the main place for mods, I was okay with it for Bethesda games only but I feel they are overly too strict and overzealous with their rules that I really don't want to use it for other game mods. I wish people would keep using ModDB. Mod sites never used to allow people to remove/hide mods in the golden age of modding.

Ok boomer

[Salamand3r-]

Originally posted by Avoozl:

I hate how Nexus is becoming the main place for mods, I was okay with it for Bethesda games only but I feel they are overly too strict and overzealous with their rules that I really don't want to use it for other game mods. I wish people would keep using ModDB. Mod sites never used to allow people to remove/hide mods in the golden age of modding.

A) Incorrect, you could always remove things from ModDB.

B) Are you saying that modders don't have the right to share their own work at their own discretion? That's just an outrageous statement.

[Scary Busey]

Originally posted by GRIZZLY_BEAR:

Originally posted by Avoozl:

I hate how Nexus is becoming the main place for mods, I was okay with it for Bethesda games only but I feel they are overly too strict and overzealous with their rules that I really don't want to use it for other game mods. I wish people would keep using ModDB. Mod sites never used to allow people to remove/hide mods in the golden age of modding.

Ok boomer

Heh yep sure showed sure that guy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Trump voter

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by BRAAAAAPpenheimer:

Originally posted by GRIZZLY_BEAR:

Ok boomer

Heh yep sure showed sure that guy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Trump voter

Heh yep sure showed sure that guy

[Jagom.Sus]

Originally posted by ok boomer is cancer:

Originally posted by GRIZZLY_BEAR:

Ok boomer

Heh yep sure showed sure that guy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Trump voter

Not gonna lie, that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ made me laugh

[꧁༒☬ GΞX ☬༒꧂]

Hiding/deleting mods is obviously bad and a sh*tty move of conceited snobs.

Why?

Imagine this:
You have a fairly good to mod game out there. You want to play the game after few years again. So you download the mods you used to have years ago. Suddenly you notice, that 1/3 of your modlist isn't available anymore because the author says "doesn't support the current version of the game anymore" - great, good, but that also removes the one possibility of tracking what actually has been done to the game to make it worthwhile using that specific mod.
There are lots of people e.g. downloading inventory, stat or any kind of meta tweaks. If people remove the possibility of displaying the content, downloading the mod, extracting its files and seeing for your own how you could mod it the same way or even update the damn bloody mod, since people are asking for it for years and the author gives zero f***s about it, this is the place where mod authors shouldn't be allowed to hide their work in any regards, since it is not their game nor their own personal content - it belongs to the game after all.

For instance, there was an inventory mod for the people on No Man's Sky. I hated that game in the past for the lies and wanna be "the center has a real surprise for you" bullsh*t talking - everything was leading me to actually uninstall the game, since I wasn't able to refund it.
2020, v2.26 - Beyond Update 6. The game feels more natural and good, despite the ship controls still lacking strafe movement :facepalm:, not laggy as hell nowadays.
I made some couple of mods for the stacking logic and hazard's shield + module energy lasting longer.
People were instantly downloading it, because the previous versions were on 1.77 or even earlier and crashing the game regardless of how they try to install it, obvious.
Despite that it took me only 20 minutes to find the specific file to edit the values and parameters, but would have made the work a lot easier if I had a reference about "what did that user change, where on which files". There are a handful of pak files in the folder, few of them going over 1GB of size, extracting those is a pain in the arse - I even listed the package file, which my edited files are from, so people in the future, if I decide to not upgrade my sh*t, can and will update that part easily.

You now might understand how important it is to keep their "oh so beloved very precious and in an unimaginable worthy modded content"-crap online and not hidden.

[Risen]

Originally posted by NovaZek:

Hiding/deleting mods is obviously bad and a sh*tty move of conceited snobs.

Why?

Imagine this:
You have a fairly good to mod game out there. You want to play the game after few years again. So you download the mods you used to have years ago. Suddenly you notice, that 1/3 of your modlist isn't available anymore because the author says "doesn't support the current version of the game anymore" - great, good, but that also removes the one possibility of tracking what actually has been done to the game to make it worthwhile using that specific mod.
There are lots of people e.g. downloading inventory, stat or any kind of meta tweaks. If people remove the possibility of displaying the content, downloading the mod, extracting its files and seeing for your own how you could mod it the same way or even update the damn bloody mod, since people are asking for it for years and the author gives zero f***s about it, this is the place where mod authors shouldn't be allowed to hide their work in any regards, since it is not their game nor their own personal content - it belongs to the game after all.

For instance, there was an inventory mod for the people on No Man's Sky. I hated that game in the past for the lies and wanna be "the center has a real surprise for you" bullsh*t talking - everything was leading me to actually uninstall the game, since I wasn't able to refund it.
2020, v2.26 - Beyond Update 6. The game feels more natural and good, despite the ship controls still lacking strafe movement :facepalm:, not laggy as hell nowadays.
I made some couple of mods for the stacking logic and hazard's shield + module energy lasting longer.
People were instantly downloading it, because the previous versions were on 1.77 or even earlier and crashing the game regardless of how they try to install it, obvious.
Despite that it took me only 20 minutes to find the specific file to edit the values and parameters, but would have made the work a lot easier if I had a reference about "what did that user change, where on which files". There are a handful of pak files in the folder, few of them going over 1GB of size, extracting those is a pain in the arse - I even listed the package file, which my edited files are from, so people in the future, if I decide to not upgrade my sh*t, can and will update that part easily.

You now might understand how important it is to keep their "oh so beloved very precious and in an unimaginable worthy modded content"-crap online and not hidden.

imagine thinking you're entitled to someones mod they spent hours making, and then say they don't own their own work. grow up.

[Incunabulum]

What is wrong with you people?

[Scary Busey]

Originally posted by Incunabulum:

What is wrong with you people?

Homies with extra chromies

[Mathius]

Originally posted by Avoozl:

I hate how Nexus is becoming the main place for mods, I was okay with it for Bethesda games only but I feel they are overly too strict and overzealous with their rules

Meh. You're right about this part at least. Nexus moderators are nazis and run the place on their own whims. Most of the time you're better off just keeping your mouth shut than actually trying to debate anything with anyone.

I remember I started a thread on asking the best way to sell a pc game that was still new (as in, still in the plastic) but an old game and the moderator threatened to ban me, accusing me of some kind of piracy scheme. I actually had to go to the site owner to get him to step in and of course nobody wanted to discuss it after that.

I also got an account banned because the moderator didn't like something I said to him in a PM.

Now I just use my account to download mods and don't say a peep on the boards.

[Salamand3r-]

Originally posted by kittehoverlord:

Originally posted by Mathius:

Meh. You're right about this part at least. Nexus moderators are nazis and run the place on their own whims. Most of the time you're better off just keeping your mouth shut than actually trying to debate anything with anyone.

I remember I started a thread on asking the best way to sell a pc game that was still new (as in, still in the plastic) but an old game and the moderator threatened to ban me, accusing me of some kind of piracy scheme. I actually had to go to the site owner to get him to step in and of course nobody wanted to discuss it after that.

I also got an account banned because the moderator didn't like something I said to him in a PM.

Now I just use my account to download mods and don't say a peep on the boards.

I am sure the draconian measures are in place because of the nature of their business. They must be skirting the line of copyright infringement on a daily basis.
I have never engaged in a discussion on the site in the 8+ years I have been a member. The most I have said has been ``Thank you''. :)

Aye, they have to be extremely careful for Bethesda to continue to tacitly support them.

People forget that Bethesda could DMCA them, ENB, and the Script Extender team in a heartbeat, and probably sue them into oblivion.

We even had the modpiracy subreddit killed off recently - it's not a time to flaunt the rules.

If you really want to go outside the bounds on the Nexus, GUN is still there (speaking of Nazi mods...) and LoversLab exists as well.

But there is still no reason at all to prohibit mod authors from taking their works down if they want.

[Mathius]

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

But there is still no reason at all to prohibit mod authors from taking their works down if they want.

Yes. Please don't misunderstand. I was only agreeing with the part that I quoted.

[Mathius]

Originally posted by kittehoverlord:

I am sure the draconian measures are in place because of the nature of their business. They must be skirting the line of copyright infringement on a daily basis.
I have never engaged in a discussion on the site in the 8+ years I have been a member. The most I have said has been ``Thank you''. :)

There's a difference between going after someone for piracy and inventing a reason to go after someone for piracy. He just assumed I was doing something illegal because I was selling a PC game.

Also, IMO, there should never be any reason for a moderator to ban someone for a private conversation, unless the person is blatantly insulting you or something extreme.