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ItsFrenzius Dec 7, 2016 @ 11:57am
Is the game music or anything else copyright??
Im a small youtuber and I am wondering if any of the new vegas music is copy right. I play it in my spare time and want to know if there is any copyright content in the game before starting a series on my channel.
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MaximumEffort Dec 7, 2016 @ 12:08pm 
Any music/video/voice track that was NOT made or held by Bethesda is copyright and will get your videos deleted
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ItsFrenzius Dec 7, 2016 @ 12:09pm 
ok do u know if the game radio has any copyright within it? I usually have it playing in the backround.
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MaximumEffort Dec 7, 2016 @ 12:14pm 
Originally posted by Frenzy Commander:
ok do u know if the game radio has any copyright within it? I usually have it playing in the backround.

Yes it has. Those are songs that weren't made by Bethesda
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Bansheebutt Dec 7, 2016 @ 12:22pm 
Your videos won't be deleted, they'll just be monetized by the copyright holder.

Fyi, you can easily replace the radio songs by replacing the files in the game's Songs folder with identically named files. The simplest thing to do is just disable the radio though.
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Belanos Dec 7, 2016 @ 12:54pm 
Originally posted by Bansheebot:
Your videos won't be deleted, they'll just be monetized by the copyright holder.

That would depend on the copyright holder. They may decide to order the video be shut down, and would have the legal right to do so.
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Bansheebutt Dec 7, 2016 @ 1:38pm 
They could, but judging by the vast amounts of songs uploaded and listenable on youtube, they're all content to scrape those 5 or so cents from every viewer.

It's pretty rare for anything other than movies and TV shows to actually be taken down. And even then, it might only be delisted in certain countries.
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MaximumEffort Dec 7, 2016 @ 3:20pm 
Originally posted by Bansheebot:
They could, but judging by the vast amounts of songs uploaded and listenable on youtube, they're all content to scrape those 5 or so cents from every viewer.

It's pretty rare for anything other than movies and TV shows to actually be taken down. And even then, it might only be delisted in certain countries.

There was a post here a few weeks ago, when a poster asked why his videos were taken down on YouTube. The answer was simple - radio! As soon as he switched it off, his videos stayed on.
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E.P.D. Gaffney Dec 7, 2016 @ 3:32pm 
It's true, tthere are a lot of YouTubers complaining about their videos getting deleted with this game. Pretty sure I seen some that had the radio but you are definitely taking a risk by keeping the radio on in your videos.
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Bansheebutt Dec 7, 2016 @ 3:33pm 
Having had a channel for two years with several videos claimed for audio reasons, I've never had anything taken down, including a stream where I played an entire hour-long album twice.
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E.P.D. Gaffney Dec 7, 2016 @ 3:39pm 
Originally posted by Bansheebot:
Having had a channel for two years with several videos claimed for audio reasons, I've never had anything taken down, including a stream where I played an entire hour-long album twice.
I'm not sure why but there are a lot of people that make videos of this game and have problems like getting them taken down. Or at least a few I've watched make PSAs about it. Music that isn't in this game seems not to cause videos to get taken down as often. My guess is that there are more copyright holders so it increases the chance that one of them will do it. You played that one album, meaning it was (probably) one copyright holder.

My honest guess is that OP's video *wouldn't* be taken down, but they ought to know that it's not crazy to think it's possible.
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Bansheebutt Dec 7, 2016 @ 3:48pm 
That doesn't explain an MGSV stream where I had like 5 due to the in-game radio, or that I did play other music eventually during that one.

But I commentate over everything, but a lot of LPs of New Vegas don't. I wonder if that has something to do with it.
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E.P.D. Gaffney Dec 7, 2016 @ 3:55pm 
Originally posted by Bansheebot:
That doesn't explain an MGSV stream where I had like 5 due to the in-game radio, or that I did play other music eventually during that one.

But I commentate over everything, but a lot of LPs of New Vegas don't. I wonder if that has something to do with it.
A lot of it (or maybe even all of it) is done by computers, so if there's enough going on it can mask it, and similarly, if the copyrighted material is quiet enough it can more easily be masked by what's happening with it, such as commentary.

I've heard that Jim Sterling has taken to playing loads and loads of copyrighted material simultaneously in order to get round this problem (though with him it seems to be monetisation rather than getting videos taken down).
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ItsFrenzius Dec 7, 2016 @ 6:32pm 
So if I keep the radio off im copyright free? the only problem I see with that is I want to use the radio as backround music while I play so does this mean both the New Vegas Radio and the Mojave Radio stations are copyright or does it go to just one of them?
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E.P.D. Gaffney Dec 7, 2016 @ 7:25pm 
No, those are copyrighted as well I'm pretty sure. Some were stock recordings made specifically to be licenced royalty-free in situations like this, and I'm not sure is that any different, but a bunch of the others are real recordings from the '50s. Heartaches by the Number is a '59 song but for whatever reason they use a 1980 version re-recorded by the original artist (Guy Mitchell).

A good idea could be to grab a radio mod called R.A.C.E. that you may have heard of, as well as its extensions (offered on the mod page). Those are all copyright-free. The two problems are:
1. Manyof the songs are earlier than the 1950s, though many of them are not, and I find the older ones just as fitting (and there are a few '30s ones in this game and Fallout 3).
2. No Mr New Vegas.

If you wanted to go to some trouble, you could grab the R.A.C.E. packs and then use Jarol's Radio New Vegas extender, which would simply add all the R.A.C.E. tracks to Radio New Vegas and intersperse them with Mr New Vegas as well as the game's regular songs. You could then delete any copyrighted music from the folder (back it up first, obviously) and it would just skip the tracks it had intended to play there and go back to the R.A.C.E. tracks (notice: a pun). The last thing you'd probably want to do is to get rid of Mr New Vegas's references to the songs it won't be playing.

I know, yeah, a lot of work. I did say, 'if you wanted to go to some trouble...'

R.A.C.E.:
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34999/?

Jarol's Extended mod:
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/36835/?
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Belanos Dec 7, 2016 @ 8:50pm 
Originally posted by Frenzy Commander:
... so does this mean both the New Vegas Radio and the Mojave Radio stations are copyright or does it go to just one of them?

It's not the radios that are copyrighted but the music that they're playing. And since they are both using pretty much the same tunes, both would be in violation of copyright laws. If you really want to have music playing, just try E.P.D.'s suggestion. If those tunes are copyright free as he mentions then you won't have any problems.
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