Do you think Battleye should ban Reshade for DayZ?

[Copperfield [SAC]]

Reshade is a post processing injector that people use to make games look better, I personally use them for older games; makes them feel fresh But the problem with reshade on DayZ is that you can see way better in night with a few tweaks on LUT, Vignette and increased saturation as if it's full moonlight, it's like having a magical nigh vision with blue color :|

[Bone]

Hey, I use Reshade and I personally think it's way OP and it gives a real unfair advantage over those whom don't. I wish they would ban it.

[Copperfield [SAC]]

yep, so many other PPE you can download from github that gives you unfair advantages like you can zoom in screen to see stuff in distance more clear, Squad banned reshade for this reason

[Topher]

Never knew about Reshade until now but I have often wondered recently why on 1PP on the dead of night I can see players through my night scope or NVG´s running and looting when they clearly have no NVG´s

[Sams]

Originally posted by Topher:

Never knew about Reshade until now but I have often wondered recently why on 1PP on the dead of night I can see players through my night scope or NVG´s running and looting when they clearly have no NVG´s

They might also be using their GPU's color adjusting apps. Nvidia has all kinds of filters in their Geforce experience and AMD also has something similar apparently.
I doubt Battleye will ever ban those, neither will BI ask the GPU manufactures to disable their apps for Dayz.

[Arclite]

You can also just adjust your monitor's gamma, people have been doing that for a long time. The fact is, you just need to accept that there's no way you can block people from adjusting their settings to see in the dark. There's no way you can really block it, even if you make all the textures black you can still see greyscale silhouettes because of the depth buffer.

[Arclite]

Originally posted by Copperfield SAC:

yep, so many other PPE you can download from github that gives you unfair advantages like you can zoom in screen to see stuff in distance more clear, Squad banned reshade for this reason

A lot of competitive games will ban API wrappers because they are very commonly used for cheating. They can add overlays and track meshes in game, that's how some hacks will allow you to see people through walls or advanced aimbots can track heads.

More advanced hacking involves API hooks though, which modify the calls from the existing game's API instead of adding a second API wrapper that translates and adds calls. Hooks are almost impossible to remove with an anti-cheat and are the modern go-to for script kiddies to buy from hackers that sell them online.

It's sad and probably why a lot of companies have given up and just slap pre-made anti-cheat frameworks like Easy Anti-Cheat and BattleEye into their games now. If people want to hack a game, they usually buy a hack off a hacker that's already found a way to do it with their advanced knowledge.

[-OrLoK- Слава Україн]

im wary that we are getting too close to the "not allowed to discuss hacks/exploits" part of the rules.

Ill leave open for a bit but be prepared for a lock. Just FYI.

[Arclite]

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

im wary that we are getting too close to the "not allowed to discuss hacks/exploits" part of the rules.

Ill leave open for a bit but be prepared for a lock. Just FYI.

I was thinking the same thing when writing it. It's like teaching people about security in general though, people either use it for good or bad, we can never know for sure. However if more people use the information for good, eventually we might outnumber hackers that want to ruin everyone's fun and more easily identify people with hacked games.

I feel like if someone has the intention to hack a game, they might know this anyway. People that don't have the intention wouldn't try to find it out and would less likely know.

[Arclite]

I will say it's not a good idea to try and get more advanced hacks. Hackers that make them will most likely be blackhat hackers and if they have the knowledge to make fancy hacks for games, they also have the knowledge to make advanced trojans. Also just because the hack seems safe, a trojan can still be dormant until a hacker activates it, this is a common strat they use to make sure their malware doesn't get removed because it's constantly active, so they activate all of them at once.

A lot of people work on Reshade and they do it for the intention to make graphics better in games, not to hack, so people would easily stumble across anything malicious if there was anything like that in the programming.

[Einheri]

Originally posted by Arcus:

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

im wary that we are getting too close to the "not allowed to discuss hacks/exploits" part of the rules.

Ill leave open for a bit but be prepared for a lock. Just FYI.

I was thinking the same thing when writing it. It's like teaching people about security in general though, people either use it for good or bad, we can never know for sure. However if more people use the information for good, eventually we might outnumber hackers that want to ruin everyone's fun and more easily identify people with hacked games.

I feel like if someone has the intention to hack a game, they might know this anyway. People that don't have the intention wouldn't try to find it out and would less likely know.

To people who aren't familiar how to code cheats and don't use them your post is gibberish anyway. Me included. I just know that some people can run incredibly fast and spawn weapons. ;D

I've just watched a video about reshade because i've never heard of it. That's just cheating, although the game truly looks beautiful with it. I would be paranoid that i'll get banned for injecting that tbh.

[Copperfield [SAC]]

Originally posted by Lennart Bedrager:

Originally posted by Arcus:

I was thinking the same thing when writing it. It's like teaching people about security in general though, people either use it for good or bad, we can never know for sure. However if more people use the information for good, eventually we might outnumber hackers that want to ruin everyone's fun and more easily identify people with hacked games.

I feel like if someone has the intention to hack a game, they might know this anyway. People that don't have the intention wouldn't try to find it out and would less likely know.

To people who aren't familiar how to code cheats and don't use them your post is gibberish anyway. Me included. I just know that some people can run incredibly fast and spawn weapons. ;D

I've just watched a video about reshade because i've never heard of it. That's just cheating, although the game truly looks beautiful with it. I would be paranoid that i'll get banned for injecting that tbh.

I use reshade very commonly, you have to always check reshade compatibly list before installing it 'cause some multiplayer games will get you banned for that, like War thunder, CS GO, Pubg, Squad,....

[DayZed and Confuzed]

In my experience, ethical players FAR outnumber players who rely on hacks and exploits to gain an advantage. Perhaps it's because players who are inclined to "cheat" aren't knowledgeable enough to take advantage of these exploits. This is just an uneducated guess, but it doesn't seem to be a major issue. but I really haven't had many encounters with players who were clearly able to see in the dark without the aid of NVGs.

Those of you who played DayZ when it was first available as an "early access" title, you may remember that the gamma could be adjusted so that you could see perfectly in the dark. Back then, it was pretty much a moot point since everyone could adjust the gamma to see in the dark. After the Alpha was released, the settings still featured a gamma adjustment, but it functioned differently... more like a useless brightness setting. Seeing in the dark was no longer an option. (Which is a good thing..)

Between my two Steam accounts, I have racked up over 6000 hours play time in DayZ and my gaming experience hasn't been adversely affected by cheaters/hackers/exploiters. I'm sure I've been shot by cheaters on numerous occasions, but it doesn't happen enough to cause me great concern. It seem like the admins on high-pop servers try to keep an eye out for suspicious player behavior, at least it seems that way to me.

Either way, I enjoy the game whether or not there are a few cheaters here and there. It's just a game, and at the end of the day the main thing is that I enjoy the time I spend playing... which I do :-)

[Topher]

Originally posted by DayZed and Confuzed:

In my experience, ethical players FAR outnumber players who rely on hacks and exploits to gain an advantage. Perhaps it's because players who are inclined to "cheat" aren't knowledgeable enough to take advantage of these exploits. This is just an uneducated guess, but it doesn't seem to be a major issue. but I really haven't had many encounters with players who were clearly able to see in the dark without the aid of NVGs.

Those of you who played DayZ when it was first available as an "early access" title, you may remember that the gamma could be adjusted so that you could see perfectly in the dark. Back then, it was pretty much a moot point since everyone could adjust the gamma to see in the dark. After the Alpha was released, the settings still featured a gamma adjustment, but it functioned differently... more like a useless brightness setting. Seeing in the dark was no longer an option. (Which is a good thing..)

Between my two Steam accounts, I have racked up over 6000 hours play time in DayZ and my gaming experience hasn't been adversely affected by cheaters/hackers/exploiters. I'm sure I've been shot by cheaters on numerous occasions, but it doesn't happen enough to cause me great concern. It seem like the admins on high-pop servers try to keep an eye out for suspicious player behavior, at least it seems that way to me.

Either way, I enjoy the game whether or not there are a few cheaters here and there. It's just a game, and at the end of the day the main thing is that I enjoy the time I spend playing... which I do :-)

I agree but with one difference. The ethical non script users are still heavily swayed to the lean of a bunch of KOS chads