Master of Orion

Master of Orion

5X - The Ultimate Balance Mod
New update Questions
Why two fungal farms and no hydroponics farm in tech tree (biology and biotechnology)?
Very bad for new colony start. Also do not like increase in command points, last version was better. Thanks! for all the hard work put in:)
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Spud Dastardly  [developer] May 5, 2018 @ 6:27pm 
Not sure what you mean by two fungal farms and no hydroponic farms. Hydroponic farms is in biotechnology. Perhaps some other mod you're using is overwriting that node?

Is there some reason in particular you don't like the new command point balance? It came as a result of a rather long discussion on the feedback thread and quite a bit of balance testing. The old system definitely had some flaws, like how destroyers only cost 50% more command points than frigates so once you got destroyers, frigates became useless.
Ambassadoro May 5, 2018 @ 9:30pm 
Thanks for your reply. However the problem came after your recent update, no problems before that. In the tech tree (biology) pol. clean,fungal f. and biospheres show up. no hydo farms. In (bitech) fung f, death sp,tox cond,and deep sp ind show up. Also toxic pr shows up in (physics) and (xenobioltics). As far command points go if you lose a star base early on your in trouble. Both friend I play with feel that millitary outpost cost to much, a couple of those and no points left for ships. We do however like all the other changes. Have standard mods 5x,ucp,5x compat mod,5x assets,divers spec and massive planets. Thank you again fo all your hard work.
Sensei  [developer] May 6, 2018 @ 12:17am 
I am not at home right now, so i cannot check all your mods. Maybe try to deactivate all mods, then start with 5x, ucp and compatibility mod. If there is nothing wrong, activate one mod after another and check with which the tech tree changed.
Spud Dastardly  [developer] May 6, 2018 @ 2:06am 
Diverse specials and massive planets is probably overwriting that node. That has needed an update for 5X compatibility for a while now. I may just come up with an update myself and send it to Morpheus to upload since he doesn't seem to be doing it himself.

I'm willing to look at decreasing the CP cost of military outposts.
Last edited by Spud Dastardly; May 6, 2018 @ 2:06am
Ambassadoro May 6, 2018 @ 9:21am 
Found Problem, it was dsmp mod. If active when 5x updates doesnt do so correctly. tested on three machines same results. Is there a reason why fungal farms was put before hydo farms.
jpoisel May 7, 2018 @ 8:17pm 
Originally posted by Spud Dastardly:
Diverse specials and massive planets is probably overwriting that node. That has needed an update for 5X compatibility for a while now. I may just come up with an update myself and send it to Morpheus to upload since he doesn't seem to be doing it himself.

I've also PMed him to see if he'd like help. It's killing me that I can't play with your latest ver, but I've become used to DSMP as a big part of the game as well. :(
jpoisel May 9, 2018 @ 6:39am 
@Spud: It doesn't seem Morpheus is willing/able to respond at this time. If you do come up with an update on his behalf, can you please make it available for those of us willing to manually update his mod?
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