Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

Nationalism Extended
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Khanor  [developer] Sep 25, 2016 @ 5:57am
Interested in helping out with the mod? Look no further than this thread!
I'm looking for a handful of testers, as well as an artist or two to help out with the mod. The workload will be relatively light even by hobby modding standards, and you'd all be helping me take this mod to the next level of quality as well as influence what we do here.

Work for testers/QA-crew would be playtests as certain nations on both the live build and upcoming future versions, and providing me feedback on what works or not, what's fun and what's balanced. These nations will in some cases be specific and requested for a test run by me, but most of the time you'll be relatively free to play or test whatever nation you want.

Work for the artists would be designing new icons for my added focuses, maybe some icons for ideas and eventually maybe the thumbnail and a mod introduction screen to put at the start of the screenshots. I know this can be a bit of work, but there's no set deadlines and you can work at your own pace. You'll get the same perks and credits on the mod page as the testers, and I'd really appreciate some help.

I know all of you might have work/education/hobbies of greater importance, so you can all work at your own pace (I certainly can't demand anything more for voluntary work on my mod). In addition if you have historical, political or even programming/modding knowledge you can feel free to add suggestions whether you're a tester or an artist. What do you say people, would anyone like to help me develop this mod?
Last edited by Khanor; Sep 25, 2016 @ 4:34pm
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1 Even Dec 24, 2016 @ 2:39pm 
I have a decent amount of experience in modding, particularly graphical work, and I certainly have a solid understanding of the territorial ambitions of the various nations in this timeframe, as well as their historical developments throughout the century. I would love to help out in whichever ways you deem best.
Khanor  [developer] Dec 25, 2016 @ 7:55am 
That's just what I'm looking for. You can probably do both historical feedback, and designing some focus icons for me if you're up for it. To give an example of the graphical work I had in mind, I pictured a line of half tracks seen from the side for the generic vehicle specialization focus I added. I'll boot up the game again tomorrow to see what other stuff needs to be done. Other than that, Merry Christmas, and thanks for chiming in :)
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im not capping Oct 28, 2017 @ 1:03am 
I can help you with determining territorial claims for various nations if you want. I know a fair bit about various territorial ambitions throughout history, I can tell you which states a given country would try to core.
Khanor  [developer] Oct 28, 2017 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by FlashGordon33:
I can help you with determining territorial claims for various nations if you want. I know a fair bit about various territorial ambitions throughout history, I can tell you which states a given country would try to core.

Excellent, I did add a tag list in the description, so if the nation's in the game but not in that list they need to be done. There I also explained my requirements for giving cores and claims, but like last update showed (with Finland being able to get claims on Norway and Sweden, should Finland be player controlled), this is lenient if there's a good argument outside of the requirements, historically and gameplay wise. You can either post your results here, or add me and write to me in chat (don't yet have discord for modding purposes). Thank you for wanting to help :)
im not capping Oct 28, 2017 @ 5:57pm 
Originally posted by Khanor:
Excellent, I did add a tag list in the description, so if the nation's in the game but not in that list they need to be done. There I also explained my requirements for giving cores and claims, but like last update showed (with Finland being able to get claims on Norway and Sweden, should Finland be player controlled), this is lenient if there's a good argument outside of the requirements, historically and gameplay wise. You can either post your results here, or add me and write to me in chat (don't yet have discord for modding purposes). Thank you for wanting to help :)

Alright then, lets start on North America.

The United States has had serious movements throughout their history to annex Canada and Cuba. Neither of these nations have ever been part of America, but a more nationalist America would look to avenge the War of 1812, when they first tried to annex Canada. America had also reserved the right to intervene in Cuban affairs after they won them their independence, so the nation was already under plenty of American influence. The right-wing groups especially have usually advocated annexing Cuba to create another right-wing state to offset the left.

Canada would try to annex Alaska and Washington. The Canadian people were extremely angry after the Alaskan border dispute prevented them from having access to the sea and gave America control over the river mouths. Washington was part of the historical region of Oregon country, which was a serious point of contention between Canada and America. A nationalist Canada may bring back these border disputed.

Mexico lost most of their Northern territory to America in the Mexican-American war. They also lost some of their southern regions to the Central American nations. Nationalist Mexico would try to rebuild the First Mexican Empire.

The Central American nations would each try to rebuild the Republic of Central America, which was a nation that spanned Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Slavador and Guatemala.

Panama would try to take back the Canal Zone.

Both Hati and the Dominican Republic would try to annex one another. They have both had territorial ambitions to conquer the entirety of their island.

Cuba has never really had the chance to form any territorial ambitions, they are too young of a nation.
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Khanor  [developer] Oct 29, 2017 @ 11:10am 
Originally posted by FlashGordon33:
Alright then, lets start on North America.

The United States has had serious movements throughout their history to annex Canada and Cuba. Neither of these nations have ever been part of America, but a more nationalist America would look to avenge the War of 1812, when they first tried to annex Canada. America had also reserved the right to intervene in Cuban affairs after they won them their independence, so the nation was already under plenty of American influence. The right-wing groups especially have usually advocated annexing Cuba to create another right-wing state to offset the left.

Canada would try to annex Alaska and Washington. The Canadian people were extremely angry after the Alaskan border dispute prevented them from having access to the sea and gave America control over the river mouths. Washington was part of the historical region of Oregon country, which was a serious point of contention between Canada and America. A nationalist Canada may bring back these border disputed.

Mexico lost most of their Northern territory to America in the Mexican-American war. They also lost some of their southern regions to the Central American nations. Nationalist Mexico would try to rebuild the First Mexican Empire.

The Central American nations would each try to rebuild the Republic of Central America, which was a nation that spanned Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Slavador and Guatemala.

Panama would try to take back the Canal Zone.

Both Hati and the Dominican Republic would try to annex one another. They have both had territorial ambitions to conquer the entirety of their island.

Cuba has never really had the chance to form any territorial ambitions, they are too young of a nation.

All this sounds good to me, so I will be adding it to the generic focus tree (by the way, your suggestions for Mexico, Panama, Haiti and the Dominican Republic are already in). That means the Central Americans, the US and Canada will have to be added.

For the Central Americans, and Canada for those without "Together for Victory", the changes will be added to the generic tree, but then there's the question about where to add it in the US tree and Canadian TfV tree. Canada should probably have it added somewhere in their fascist and communist trees, while the US I'm a bit more unsure about. Maybe "Unholy Alliance" and "Anti-Imperialism"? Any thoughts on this before I get to it?
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im not capping Oct 29, 2017 @ 6:55pm 
Originally posted by Khanor:

All this sounds good to me, so I will be adding it to the generic focus tree (by the way, your suggestions for Mexico, Panama, Haiti and the Dominican Republic are already in). That means the Central Americans, the US and Canada will have to be added.

For the Central Americans, and Canada for those without "Together for Victory", the changes will be added to the generic tree, but then there's the question about where to add it in the US tree and Canadian TfV tree. Canada should probably have it added somewhere in their fascist and communist trees, while the US I'm a bit more unsure about. Maybe "Unholy Alliance" and "Anti-Imperialism"? Any thoughts on this before I get to it?

I honestly have no idea, the focus tree for the US is already pretty poor, which is why I'm making a mod to fix it. There isn't any real way to actually change the way events happen without an extreme amount of effort. You could add an entirely new focus branch called "War Plan Crimson" which deals with an invasion of Canada and "War Plan Tan" for Cuba. Have the prerequisites for both to be Fascist. War Plan Crimson could also have something to do with a fascist confrontation of Britain with Germany.
Khanor  [developer] Oct 30, 2017 @ 5:58am 
Originally posted by FlashGordon33:
I honestly have no idea, the focus tree for the US is already pretty poor, which is why I'm making a mod to fix it. There isn't any real way to actually change the way events happen without an extreme amount of effort. You could add an entirely new focus branch called "War Plan Crimson" which deals with an invasion of Canada and "War Plan Tan" for Cuba. Have the prerequisites for both to be Fascist. War Plan Crimson could also have something to do with a fascist confrontation of Britain with Germany.

Hmm, maybe I'll just do Canada and the Central Americans then, and I'll provide a link to your US mod instead (so people can play with a better tree). When I update I'll give credits to you in the comments, and please tell me when your US focus tree is ready so I can link to it.
im not capping Oct 31, 2017 @ 3:29am 
Originally posted by Khanor:
Hmm, maybe I'll just do Canada and the Central Americans then, and I'll provide a link to your US mod instead (so people can play with a better tree). When I update I'll give credits to you in the comments, and please tell me when your US focus tree is ready so I can link to it.

I don't think my mod would really work well with yours. It's not just a focus tree, I also included a whole bunch of events focused on a Communist and Fascist United States. But I can try to add Cuba and Canada to the Unholy Alliance focus tree, in the form of War Plan Crimson and War Plan Tan.
Khanor  [developer] Oct 31, 2017 @ 6:59am 
Originally posted by FlashGordon33:
I don't think my mod would really work well with yours. It's not just a focus tree, I also included a whole bunch of events focused on a Communist and Fascist United States. But I can try to add Cuba and Canada to the Unholy Alliance focus tree, in the form of War Plan Crimson and War Plan Tan.

Alright, guess I'll just add it in the default US focus tree here then. Thank you for your help.
im not capping Oct 31, 2017 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by Khanor:

Alright, guess I'll just add it in the default US focus tree here then. Thank you for your help.

If you want I can make a second focus tree for the US, and just add 2 focuses which you can add claims to Canada and Cuba on.
Khanor  [developer] Oct 31, 2017 @ 3:11pm 
Originally posted by FlashGordon33:
If you want I can make a second focus tree for the US, and just add 2 focuses which you can add claims to Canada and Cuba on.

Thanks for the offer, but hold off for now. I'll have to first consider if it's worth making the mod heavier for those claims. After all it would mean losing compatibility with all focus tree mods for the US. I might not add US claims at all in the end. And no doubt when Paradox updates the game with a new US focus tree it will be much better anyways.
Last edited by Khanor; Oct 31, 2017 @ 3:12pm
CosmosNinja Jan 9, 2019 @ 4:22am 
I'd be intrested in helping with testing and QA. I also have a decent amount of historical knowlege around the WW2 era in Europe.
Khanor  [developer] Jan 21, 2019 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by CosmonautNinja:
I'd be intrested in helping with testing and QA. I also have a decent amount of historical knowlege around the WW2 era in Europe.
Sounds good, I'll see if I can use some of your suggestions in one of the future patches, and while I managed to test the newly released patch quite properly myself, a dedicated tester might be useful for one of the future patches, so I'll keep that in mind too if you're still up for it then.
CosmosNinja Feb 5, 2019 @ 10:39pm 
Originally posted by Khanor:
Originally posted by CosmonautNinja:
I'd be intrested in helping with testing and QA. I also have a decent amount of historical knowlege around the WW2 era in Europe.
Sounds good, I'll see if I can use some of your suggestions in one of the future patches, and while I managed to test the newly released patch quite properly myself, a dedicated tester might be useful for one of the future patches, so I'll keep that in mind too if you're still up for it then.
That's cool just tell me if ever/whenever you want help
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