Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

The Fire Rises
NATO sucks ass in this mod
even with max economy, industry and military buffs from Germany and France.

For America I've played patriot front, commies and bidens faction. Easy as hell, no problems.. well besides every path feeling samey and resulting in just a renamed USA.. but not my point of this thread.

For Europe I've played France and Germany, knowing how literally boring it is for NATO I won't be coming back to play Russia. Nothing happens up until the invasion of Ukraine. No proxy wars through Africa or Asia, nothing, just have to sit there bored off your ass for years, cause all the content went to the US.

The Euro Russian war, is a complete stale mate, the ai makes ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ useless divisions on both sides of the war that can't push, you rely on the European allies to field men to cover the massive borders of Russia and it's puppets on both the Polish and Turkish borders. You don't have enough to cover the borders yourself as France Or Germany.

Not to mention due to renaming of all the plane and Tank components, actually making a good design for each and then projecting effective air and land dominance is a complete pain. So being able to push with my own divisions in the war a complete no go. They are both way to overcomplicated.
Last edited by <#FF69B4>Robin ;3; Jan 23 @ 8:53pm
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Nightcrawler Jan 24 @ 10:15am 
skill issue
H982_FKL Jan 24 @ 1:32pm 
gargantuan skill issue even
mel0n Jan 24 @ 3:36pm 
Nothing ever happens...
Homuya Jan 25 @ 2:50am 
Russia is literally no challenge all you need as Germany is to help encircle with like 6 good tank divisions and Russia is immediately dead.

Later you make some better planes and its insta-gg

So as much as it hurts - Skill issue, I got no problems and win the war immediately every time

If you like to I can show you some proper templates but it comes down to only using tank/mechanized/SPG and air-superiority only then later CAS when you got the industry.

Pure air superiority plane can shred the AI its insane but you wont have the numbers until the 2nd EAW.

Winning as Russia is far, FARRRR harder so dont say NATO would be bad.

About your complaints:

-> Yes its a bit bad that nothing happens until the EAW I agree
-> You are not dependant on your allies. YOU are the hammer, not them.
-> Let the AI cover the front while your heavy divisions break through and encircle

I win the EAW within a year as Europe, usually under 6 months even.

Did not played as France yet due to bugs but I assume it shouldn't be alot different.

So look at it from a different approach, you are not supposed to cover the border. Let the AI cover the borders and fight it out while your heavy breakthrough units support and encircle. Russian AI is also not the smartest in securing their flanks when they push.

There is absolutely nothing complex about the mod or the designers, especially not for the tanks and planes its very, very simple. Even more simple than vanilla cause its far more straight forward about whats good and what you can add.

Bonus hint:

You can change two political laws early to get 0.20PP which is neat. One of them is border policy and the other is inclusion or something like that. Focus on that early and you benefit from more PP all game while the downsides dont matter at all.

On planes you just add AA missiles only, engine, 1 component about take-off that gives most agility with no downsides then spamm the radar component that gives air defense and you can shred AI

You do the same for CAS later but with ground missile - was that so complex?
Last edited by Homuya; Jan 25 @ 2:58am
gargantuan leviathan skill issue



















i had to
Sirius Jan 25 @ 6:41pm 
I agree for the big gap of boredom between the oil crisis and the war, France (haven't played germany) really feels unfinished. But for the rest, the ERW was easy for me, you dont need to cover the entire front with your allies helping you, and dont even have to take all the objectives. Russia is better, i recommend you give it a try. And for America, try the Atomwaffen and the American Caligula path for Biden
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