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Battle of the Seelow Heights
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Ranger of Ithilien Nov 1, 2023 @ 8:49am
Has even the moder himself made it succesfully as Germany? Any opening strategy and guide?
No joke, the amount of miniscule micro i'm having to do is insane. No other way to survive, especially if you dont buff yourself. :orccaptain:
I clocked 4-5 hours staring at my screen, consolidating, drawing orders, considering carefully most effective use of XP, PP and CP etc. I'm still on Aprill 12, Nuts!

I'm Curently attempting to use all my armor to counter in the west. There's a small time window where you gain air supremacy, but after ~10 days the enemy planes show up to ruin the fun.

This whole thing is weirdly fun.
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Ranger of Ithilien Nov 1, 2023 @ 7:58pm 
Yep... It's imposible alright. I did a massive 400k encirclement in the Rhein vs the Allies. My support companies were capturing a bit of equipment. I was all: -"ok i got this".

Then the fuel run out by about mid May. Air is lost and so game will be lost within, in best case, 4-5 months. There's no synthetics for germany. :(
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Auschwert Nov 3, 2023 @ 12:00pm 
I have 2000 hours in hoi4 but this is just impossible
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Bapito Nov 5, 2023 @ 7:46am 
This mod is engineered to make you lose, it's not a "can you win?" scenario, it's more of "how long can you last (until you inevitably lose)?"
MAYBE you can win as japan, or at least put yourself in a situation where you can defend indefinitely, but even then, the soviets will eventually invade manchuria
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GarlicSauce Nov 5, 2023 @ 12:13pm 
Originally posted by Bapito:
This mod is engineered to make you lose, it's not a "can you win?" scenario, it's more of "how long can you last (until you inevitably lose)?"
MAYBE you can win as japan, or at least put yourself in a situation where you can defend indefinitely, but even then, the soviets will eventually invade manchuria

I'd say theres a tiny chance of victory for Japan if both Germany and Japan are player led, as then the Germans could at least severely weaken the Soviet AI before being defeated, leading to a much weaker Soviet invasion of manchuria. I dont think Japan could ever push against the Soviets, but they could definitely hold if most of China was dealt with, unless America decides to launch Operation Downfall in the meantime.
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Cereal Nov 8, 2023 @ 3:55pm 
I think it's supposed to match reality. In the real world, the Germans had no chance of winning from April 1945.
Last edited by Cereal; Mar 6, 2024 @ 2:01pm
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(C)FatheredPuma81 Nov 14, 2023 @ 12:43am 
Originally posted by Bapito:
This mod is engineered to make you lose, it's not a "can you win?" scenario, it's more of "how long can you last (until you inevitably lose)?"
MAYBE you can win as japan, or at least put yourself in a situation where you can defend indefinitely, but even then, the soviets will eventually invade manchuria
Surviving is pretty easy really. Just stack Hamburg.
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Ranger of Ithilien Nov 14, 2023 @ 2:41am 
Originally posted by (C)FatheredPuma81:
Originally posted by Bapito:
This mod is engineered to make you lose, it's not a "can you win?" scenario, it's more of "how long can you last (until you inevitably lose)?"
MAYBE you can win as japan, or at least put yourself in a situation where you can defend indefinitely, but even then, the soviets will eventually invade manchuria
Surviving is pretty easy really. Just stack Hamburg.
Yep, Bitt3rsteel did. He turned off the Negative Modifers and cheesed the heck out of the AI by overrunning divs on a port in Schleswig Holstein. His game lasted until 1952 or something. The mad lad
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LT Silverious Dec 1, 2023 @ 5:35pm 
AuRim has succesfully beat the 1945 start date so it's not impossible, just very hard.
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bizmaster The Slav Dec 2, 2023 @ 1:34am 
The key to victory is a ton of anti-air and infantry-based army. Fuel is impossible to get, and 55-60% of your casualties will come from enemy CAS, so make as much anti-air as possible.
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死亡之爪陛下 Mar 11, 2024 @ 7:45am 
[Spring Awakening], WIN under Elite mode, SOV/USA/ENG/FRA/CHN+5, with debuff.
[Berlin Campaign], under Elite mode, with debuff. Now counter attack and re-take 1/3 of German territory in 1947:lunar2019laughingpig:
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andak249 Mar 27, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by LT Silverious:
AuRim has succesfully beat the 1945 start date so it's not impossible, just very hard.
well he cheated sadly. now his video is taken down but the soviet division attacking him had 8 soft attack with full strength
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Unknown Jun 27, 2024 @ 10:29am 
i mean the mod is literally about endsieg, and surviving as long as possible and perhaps turn it around.
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qgmo2009 Oct 6, 2024 @ 10:20am 
japan is quite simple really, problem is you cant remove the decuffs at all. i just end up abandoning everything but the mainland, extract all the divs you can and garrison every coastal tile. then just spam subs and fighters. the kind of dumb thing is that the soviets go to war with the allier rather early so i was simply forgotten, they all ground out their manpower and i just reinvaded all of asia. the ai simply can/t deal with a well deffended coastline.
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qgmo2009 Oct 6, 2024 @ 10:21am 
by 55, i had all oceania, australia, china and india and was pushing into siberia.
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死亡之爪陛下 Feb 12 @ 8:55pm 
I have successfully use Germany to defeat Elite mode with SOV/USA/FRA/ENG/CHN +5
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