Black Mesa

Black Mesa

Black Mesa: Blue Shift
Peple Dec 2, 2024 @ 6:33pm
Softlock in duty calls
It seems it's really easy to softlock yourself in the grinder destruction part of duty calls if you just do things slightly out of order?

I've been stuck for literal hours trying everything I can to progress, but every old and new (pre and post latest update) walkthrough video I watch the rightmost window in the freight elevator control room is broken so you can jump through, but isn't for me. Also the elevator that goes up to the freight elevator platform from the canal doesn't work anymore despite power being restored and the door to the power restoration section doesn't open anymore.

I restored the power to the elevator first before ever entering the freight elevator control room, after which I clicked the freight elevator button and it got stuck. All walkthroughs I've checked restore the power only after this point and are able to get back to the platform under the "facility main power generator" sign. Is there any way to salvage my save or does the game just screw you over if you do things out of order in this part?
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Cyvo  [developer] Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:29pm 
Restoring the power first is actually wrong and should no longer be possible. What was the exploit you've used to get to the generator before the path became accessible?
Peple Dec 3, 2024 @ 5:05am 
Originally posted by Cyvo:
Restoring the power first is actually wrong and should no longer be possible. What was the exploit you've used to get to the generator before the path became accessible?
I'd assumed the forklift was meant to be climbed on and then jumped onto the red pipes as the first route forward I saw. I uploaded the route I took onto youtube: https://youtu.be/0O2qIkyEylo
Sandman Dec 6, 2024 @ 12:31am 
I also blocked the passage, only I walked along the thin ledge on the right (from the side of the stairs) and not as in the video above. To avoid such moments, it may be worth simply locking the door behind the drawer with a script or something else. So that it can be opened only after a discharge breaks down the door in the control room of the platform?
oyveybaby Dec 8, 2024 @ 7:03am 
Originally posted by Cyvo:
Restoring the power first is actually wrong and should no longer be possible. What was the exploit you've used to get to the generator before the path became accessible?
There's a piece of level geometry that allows you to get onto the catwalk that leads to the control room. From there, you can open the door that leads to the generator. I personally was really confused with that level on where to go. I guess I was supposed to go through the door where the vort came from. I didn't because I thought I just came from there, so why would I go back?
Valkybrie Dec 24, 2024 @ 9:40am 
Originally posted by Peple:
Originally posted by Cyvo:
Restoring the power first is actually wrong and should no longer be possible. What was the exploit you've used to get to the generator before the path became accessible?
I'd assumed the forklift was meant to be climbed on and then jumped onto the red pipes as the first route forward I saw. I uploaded the route I took onto youtube: https://youtu.be/0O2qIkyEylo

I literally just did this on my first playthrough and got softlocked.

Here's some helpful criticism for the developer as I'm genuinely surprised that this wasn't intentional. The main problem about this is that almost everything about the way this part of the chapter is designed makes it look like this is the way you're supposed to go.

1. The maintenance guy gets you to follow him to this area and takes you past the intended path, so it's easy to not realise you are supposed to backtrack (there is a vortigaunt that comes through the door granted). Naturally, a lot of players will thoroughly explore this area first.

2. The ladder up to the catwalk is obviously meant to come down, so you know you have to get up there at some point.

3. The red pipes grab attention and then draw you to the broken chainlink fence which is absolutely screaming "This is the way to go, get on these pipes and you can climb over this fence to get up to the ledge.

4. The boxes that allow you to climb through the control room window later in the chapter when it's broken naturally draw you to the forklift. From here you can see the control room window ledge is big enough to stand on.

5. The jump to the control room window ledge is so easy I'm astounded it wasn't caught in playtesting.

6. Watching a playthrough it's clear the red pipes and the broken chainlink fence that allow you to get to the catwalk this way serve no purpose. Almost every time you see that style of broken fence in Half Life 2 or a Source mod it's something you're meant to climb over, so the fact that one was put in not just for no reason, but in a way that also allows you to break the game is rather big oversight.

Basically, if you remove the red pipes and properly fence off the catwalk to block access this problem should go away.

EDIT: I'd also like to point out that in the original Blue Shift it doesn't matter which order you do things, and I assumed it would be the same in the remake.
Last edited by Valkybrie; Dec 24, 2024 @ 9:41am
Welp.. looks like I'm going to start the chapter over. I also just soft-locked myself. Totally by accident. I also thought you were supposed to jump onto the fence, then the red pipe. At the time I quite literally did not see any other way to proceed. I was totally confused, there was not other options.

Actually there is a second way to get to that spot where the red pipe is too. If you shimmy real close to the wall to the right, instead of the left after the forklift\fence, there is a very very small black molding that you can stand on.
Last edited by AdjacentShadow; Jan 4 @ 10:18pm
Devs please, this is a serious oversight.
R4idec_x Jan 11 @ 3:40pm 
O did the same thing by accident
Did the same exact thing. Softlocked
Garfield Jan 28 @ 1:11am 
I did everything correct but still the power to the elevators wasn't registering so I was soft locked in the room. I noclipped to the proper trigger and it all worked after that but the small elevator wasn't getting any power no matter what i did
Originally posted by Cyvo:
Restoring the power first is actually wrong and should no longer be possible. What was the exploit you've used to get to the generator before the path became accessible?

I took the route of jumping to the red pipes as I thought that's what was intended. Having to backtrack 3-4 rooms for the actual solution seemed like something that wasn't right, especially after the NPC led me through this area and into this room.
I ended up stuck in this area for well over an hour and I'm extremely good at source puzzles but man this area was just not well designed in my opinion.
I love the mod so far, and it all looks great, but there's little in the way of actual good guidance in terms of your puzzle.
This is still an issue. I've been been in this room for several hours now and after researching and watching walkthroughs I'm fairly certain I've done 'everything', only in the wrong order. So now the freight elevator with the last crate of explosives is stuck halfway up there and there's seemingly nothing I can do...
kittax May 27 @ 6:12am 
Still an issue lol
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