Unfortunately, no, NExt2 is still incompatible with that option disabled, especially with the new functionality in Zoning Adjuster. Future feature additions to Zoning Adjuster are just going to add even more incompatibilities, and no, that's not fixable.

I've listed found NExt2 Alternatives here:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2404810559

no.

I would not like this change. You have been outvoted; tie breaker vote goes to author meaning you lose. @M.S.Referee

Oprindeligt skrevet af algernon:

Unfortunately, no, NExt2 is still incompatible with that option disabled, especially with the new functionality in Zoning Adjuster. Future feature additions to Zoning Adjuster are just going to add even more incompatibilities, and no, that's not fixable.

Whats the code in that mod overwrites the zoning? If its that useless zoning tool I might be able to strip it out.

@LeonardMT: even if you did, all the maps, assets, mods, and other workshop assets would still reference 812125426 (NEXT2's ID) internally. Otherwise a simple "download the source code and fix it" would have already been done. The authors on the page do not plan on releasing an update, and only the original uploader can release it; not any of the contributors.

@LeonardMT You'll still need tools like Missing Net Recoverer (@Klyte45 ) and/or Replace Our Networks (RON, by the RON team). Then once your "fixed version" stopped getting updates or stopped working, we'd have the same problem all-over-again.

The original NExt started before road tools were available and continuing this way forward is just going to break things down the line in ways incompatible with other mods and the next update to C:S (as that's already happened in the "long term support period" of NExt2). Harmony 2 might be able to patch your compatibility, but if C:S sees it that we already have moved past NExt2 for these exact reasons, the next patch - even one for security vulnerabilities - might not be so forgiving, as I'm pretty sure if it wasn't for the community outrage they wouldn't have stepped in.

Oprindeligt skrevet af asterisk11231:

@LeonardMT: even if you did, all the maps, assets, mods, and other workshop assets would still reference 812125426 (NEXT2's ID) internally. Otherwise a simple "download the source code and fix it" would have already been done. The authors on the page do not plan on releasing an update, and only the original uploader can release it; not any of the contributors.

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The original NExt started before road tools were available

I know and I am willing to take that risk as I am not going to share it. And as for the mod ID I don't think it matters as long as you have the right road because you can play with mods offline.

@LeonardMT If you're willing to go that far, might I suggest that a better way to go would be to extract the NExt2 network meshes as .crp files? That would be easier and more stable long run (plus you could share them for other users, too).

I don't think there's any NExt2 roads that are really worth that much effort. There are already extracts on the workshop of a few, though most are undocumented or in...Chinese, I think.

BTW, something that also might be relevant here: the key feature planned for RON version 0.5 (currently in development) is 'intercept on load' network replacement, so you won't need the original network at all.

This will mean that you can load games with NExt2 networks without NExt2 itself (just using specified workshop - or even vanilla - replacements in-game), and will be the officially-suported way of using this mod with NExt2-legacy saves.

Oprindeligt skrevet af algernon:

BTW, something that also might be relevant here: the key feature planned for RON version 0.5 (currently in development) is 'intercept on load' network replacement, so you won't need the original network at all.

This will mean that you can load games with NExt2 networks without NExt2 itself (just using specified workshop - or even vanilla - replacements in-game), and will be the officially-suported way of using this mod with NExt2-legacy saves.

Will it also support the New Roads for NExt2 mod I'm using the fixed version (yes I know thats a terrible idea but I really like those roads)

Oprindeligt skrevet af LeonardMT:

Will it also support the New Roads for NExt2 mod I'm using the fixed version (yes I know thats a terrible idea but I really like those roads)

Any and all. The aim is for the configuration to be user-editable, so it will work with all networks (not just NExt2, but workshop networks, and even vanilla ones if desired).

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Oprindeligt skrevet af LeonardMT:

Will it also support the New Roads for NExt2 mod I'm using the fixed version (yes I know thats a terrible idea but I really like those roads)

Any and all. The aim is for the configuration to be user-editable, so it will work with all networks (not just NExt2, but workshop networks, and even vanilla ones if desired).

Okay also do you know what mode messes up the zoning code?

@LeonardMT - we've been over this. It's NExt2. Turning off "Tiny Road Zoning" option doesn't appear to help - so it must be in the override regardless of whether or not the option is present. It also conflicts with harmony 2 updates (thus some mods that aren't explicitly updated for the patch to Harmony 2, which given the state of NExt2 might have been the interim solution). Additionally if C:S wants to update it and break it again, I wouldn't count on them hotfixing it, reverting, or a hotfix to NExt2.