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Ironman_Mk11 Feb 22, 2022 @ 10:37am
Primogen Aptitudes
There's nothing in game really that tells you this, so I did some digging in the mod files.


Breakpoints 0/20/40/60/80 for Terrible/Poor/Average/Good/Excellent

Diplomacy, Martial, Stewardship, Intrigue & Learning contributions are all capped at 50 unless otherwise noted.

Positions that are notably hard to get Excellent on:
Losombra
Ravnos
Ventrue
The fact that they need to be a King to get +30 makes this very hard, unless you happen to be an Emperor with a Ventrue king in your pocket. Even then they'd still need very high stats. Possible fixes might be making it +10/+20/+30 for Count/Duke/King, adding a +10 for Diligent, and/or a +20 for Administrator. Any (or even all) of these would bring it closer to on par with the others.


Assamite
Diplomacy
Martial
Learning
Prowess (max 50)
Diligent +10

Brujah
Martial x2
Learning
Prowess (max 50)
Scholar +20
Strategist +10
Wrathful -10 (!bad!)

Cappadocian
Learning x3 (max 60)
Stewardship
Scholar +10
Patient +10
Physician (1/2/3) +10/+20/+40
Mystic (1/2/3) +5/+10/+20
Herbalist +10

Gangrel
Prowess x1.5 (max 100)
Wrathful +10
Shieldmaiden +20
Brave +20
Blademaster (1/2/3) +5/+10/+15

Losombra
Intrigue x2
Diplomacy
Stewardship
Schemer +10
Arrogant +10

Malkavian
Diplomacy x2
Learning x2
Gregarious +20
Honest +20
Herbalist +10
Mystic (1/2/3) +5/+10/+20

Nosferatu
Intrigue x2
Diplomacy
Stewardship
Deceitful +20
Schemer +20
Patient +10
Honest -20 (!bad!)

Ravnos
Intrigue x2
Martial
Stewardship
Gregarious +10
Zealous +10

Salubri
Learning x2
Prowess x2 (max 50)
Scholar +10
Vengeful +10
Blademaster (1/2/3) +5/+10/+15

Setite
Intrigue x2
Diplomacy
Learning
Gregarious +20
Deceitful +20
Zealous +10

Toreador
Diplomacy x2
Intrigue x2
Gregarious +20
Poet +10 (this is raised to 20 if their culture has "better poets", whatever that means. *shrugs*)

Tremere
Intrigue x2
Learning x2
Scholor +20
Patient +10
Herbalist +10
Mystic (1/2/3) +10/+20/+30

Tzimisce
Learning x2
Stewardship
Intrigue
Torturer +25
Sadistic +20
Diligent +10

Ventrue
Stewardship x2
Diplomacy
Martial
If they hold a Kingdom Title +30
Ambitious +10
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I haz grapes Feb 22, 2022 @ 11:47am 
"Better poets" for Toreador means their culture benefits from "Refined poetry" tradition.

Edit: and you are absolutely amazing. I'd make you honorary Ventrue if not the silly notion that Ventrue without at least king's title counts as Ventrue at all.
Last edited by I haz grapes; Feb 22, 2022 @ 11:50am
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Ironman_Mk11 Feb 23, 2022 @ 6:14am 
Not so sure about being an honorary Ventrue, but...has anyone ever spoken to you about this really cool guy named Set? *hands you a pamphlet*

My cult Some friends of mine and I are having a little meeting soon, to talk more about this. You'd be the main course guest of honor if you'd like to come?
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I haz grapes Feb 23, 2022 @ 2:07pm 
Set? Set...Nasch might have mentioned someone by that name in passing. An amateur snake-catcher who has been caught by the snake? A cautionary tale indeed.

And I never say no to a party. I'd drop by in 1451. I know that provincial magistrates often find themselves in a pitch when hosting Ventrue overlords due to feeding restrictions our great grandsire has graced my clan with. To put you at ease, my tastes are simple. I prey upon 6000 year old false prophets.
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