Out of place structures? This isn't an S+ clone. Both mods include structures that the other does not have. And yes migrations between either mod will result in those structures being lost. But only those unique structures.

But it *is* an S+ clone. Stupid Structures only came around because S+ wasn't updating. Lots of people took the shared files and decided to make their 'own' mod. At it's core, it is still S+.

These "creators" thought they could take a good mod and continue it in the absence of the original creator, but now they're making it incompatible for people who want to go back. Disgusting.

I am well within my rights to add whatever I want to add to the mod (or not to add).

Yes, there are some unique structures I have added that are not in S+, and there are unique structures in S+ that are not in this mod.

I still don't understand what the problem is though, if you think the structures are out of place and you don't think they belong, then what's the problem with losing them from a migration?

Those servers can also just put out an announcement along the lines of "On September 1st we are migrating from SS to S+, and when that happens, the following structures will be removed, plan accordingly."

Really, this whole argument makes no sense. And Orionsun even welcomes S+ forks so that there is a higher chance a user has the version of S+ that they want, and not so that they all have to be... identical to each other. That kinda goes against the whole point of Orionsun releasing the source code time and time again.

And your argument is that is 'disgusting' if a server loses those structures when they decide to migrate, but it is perfectly acceptable if every user of this mod, including those not wishing to migrate ever, loses the structures because they are removed from the mod? How does that make sense?

Originally posted by CreepyMin:

But it *is* an S+ clone.

It's a fork of an open-source project. Also, you're complaining that it's not a clone while attempting to deride it for being a clone.

Stupid Structures

Is this what we're doing now?

only came around because S+ wasn't updating.

Legendar released this mod because they wanted to. There was even public discussion with orionsun on the subject. Yes, it fell between updates, and we were all uncertain if OS would return to working on his mod, but it wasn't a gapfill or a continuation. It was their own project and preferred by many who continue to use it.

Lots of people took the shared files and decided to make their 'own' mod.

The author of S+ specifically told people to do this, repeatedly and publicly.

At it's core, it is still S+.

I doubt you're qualified to make that statement. This is painfully funny because, custom content aside, S+ itself has since been almost completely rewritten and even contains ideas and code from some of us plagiarizing hacks.

These "creators" thought they could take a good mod and continue it in the absence of the original creator,

Many of us actually discuss our mods with the original creator at length, actually. He's been invaluable in supporting these projects, original source aside.

but now they're making it incompatible for people who want to go back.

No disrespect to anyone that isn't acting like a spoiled child over minor hiccups, but boo ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hoo. No one has an obligation to run your server for you, especially when you can't decide if new content is heresy against the one true god of structure mods or mandatory to even be considered a different mod.

Disgusting.

"Summarize your attitude in one word."

tl;dr irrational lazy user hurt itself in its confusion

Still just a cheap knock off of the original mod that was good enough to be integrated into the main game.

Originally posted by CreepyMin:

Still just a cheap knock off of the original mod that was good enough to be integrated into the main game.

Only a very small part got integrated really, and 'knock off' is not really an accurate term if the original creator encourages forks of his mod.

Originally posted by CreepyMin:

Still just a cheap knock off of the original mod that was good enough to be integrated into the main game.

Good enough for you to come in here sobbing like a child to get it working the way you want.

Also, from the author of S+ himself, in the document detailing the differences between the two mods that he felt was worth making:

Bug Fixes


This is difficult to compare because the mods are significantly different on core levels at this point.

So you aren't even really an S+ fanboy, you're literally just an entitled brat whining about there being consequences to changing mods with the weather.

UMMMM Creepy man

IDK if someone already told you this but SS is an updated S+. S+ is no longer maintained and legend took S+ and made it into SS and now SS is continually maintained which is S+ with added features and fixes. WHY ON EARTH would you even want to revert to S+ when its no longer maintained. To me you have backwards thinking.

Both mods are still being maintained.

Originally posted by Clhleroy:

UMMMM Creepy man

IDK if someone already told you this but SS is an updated S+. S+ is no longer maintained and legend took S+ and made it into SS and now SS is continually maintained which is S+ with added features and fixes. WHY ON EARTH would you even want to revert to S+ when its no longer maintained. To me you have backwards thinking.

Since SS has been made, S+ had 12 updates, which is coincidentally the same as SS had updates since then. Additionally, the most recent SS update was March 29th, and S+'s most recent is August 2nd. So you call the one that updated less than 2 weeks ago "no longer maintained", and the one last updated over 4 months ago "continually maintained"?

Originally posted by Hazearil:

Originally posted by Clhleroy:

UMMMM Creepy man

IDK if someone already told you this but SS is an updated S+. S+ is no longer maintained and legend took S+ and made it into SS and now SS is continually maintained which is S+ with added features and fixes. WHY ON EARTH would you even want to revert to S+ when its no longer maintained. To me you have backwards thinking.

Since SS has been made, S+ had 12 updates, which is coincidentally the same as SS had updates since then. Additionally, the most recent SS update was March 29th, and S+'s most recent is August 2nd. So you call the one that updated less than 2 weeks ago "no longer maintained", and the one last updated over 4 months ago "continually maintained"?

They're just working from outdated info.
orionsun was very vocal and public that S+ was end of life and nothing was going to change since the June 2019 update. But yeh times move on and they ended up returning in 2020 during COVID. Some users still have orionsun's original announcements, that they were leaving, rattling around in their head though.

Originally posted by zerassar:

Originally posted by Hazearil:

Since SS has been made, S+ had 12 updates, which is coincidentally the same as SS had updates since then. Additionally, the most recent SS update was March 29th, and S+'s most recent is August 2nd. So you call the one that updated less than 2 weeks ago "no longer maintained", and the one last updated over 4 months ago "continually maintained"?

They're just working from outdated info.
orionsun was very vocal and public that S+ was end of life and nothing was going to change since the June 2019 update. But yeh times move on and they ended up returning in 2020 during COVID. Some users still have orionsun's original announcements, that they were leaving, rattling around in their head though.

What you mean to say is: Orionsun was very focal about not being sure if he would continue (but never said he stopped forever), and was focal about supporting other people to make S+ forks. He also did once put out an announcement that Super Structures was not "the new S+", but was just a separate mod.