Sid Meier's Civilization VI

Sid Meier's Civilization VI

Mappa Mundi
thecrazyscotsman  [developer] Feb 20, 2019 @ 4:14am
Place Name Discussion
Please use this thread to:
  • Report place names which don't belong
  • Suggest improvements to existing place names
  • Suggest new place names
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Zloy_S Feb 20, 2019 @ 8:36am 
Hello, thecrazyscotsman. I am very excited by your mod 'Mappa Mundi' and read all added lines. I found some names that shouldn't be added like these:

·Caucaus Mountains - you should change it to Caucaus River since you already have Caucasus Mountains in your mod.
·Eastern Desert, as well as Western Mountains may become illogical during the game (for example, appearing north or south of country
·Scottish Gaelic - well, this is a language, not geographical location
·Central Asian Northern Desert - this is illogical since it is related to Asian continent
·Karagiye - as a citizen of Kazakhstan, I can tell you that this is not a mountain, it is cavity
·Fort Funston - to be honest, it is a defense system in San Francisco county located on a hill, not a mountain
·Khanuy-Gol - it is not a volcano, it is a river (actually, part of Selenga river). 'Gol' in Mongolian is 'river'.
·Academy of Sciences Range and Akademia Nauk are the same geographical location. Also, they are a little bit illogical since they are named after huge scientific group of Soviet Union
·Volcano Vent - well, there is a mountain with such name, but most people use it as geological term.
·Ok - could you please add 'Volcano' after that in order to prevent misunderstanding (?)
·Level Mountains and Level Mountain - I guess, these two are the same with only one letter difference
·Mount E - There is no evidence of its existence anywhere
·Pacific Coast Ranges - it is a group name for 8 mountain ranges, and also looks illogical in game
·The sub Carpathians - you should add 'of Curvature' to this. Or change the name to 'Curvature Carpathians'
·Peter i - please, make a capital 'i' there
·Kanamaluka / Tamar - divide this into two separate names or remove one of them (I recommend you 'Tamar' as Colonial name and Kanamaluka as native for Australia)
·Geology - there is no mountain with such name, it is a scientific term
·Mesa - it is not a mountain name, it is a geological formation. You can change it to 'La Mesa Mountain', which is located in Argentina
·Limpopo - it is a river, not a mountain. But, there are 6 mountain ranges near this river
·North West - it is a direction rather than geographical name
·Physiography - it is a scientific term, not location.

Please, do not regard this message as an insult - I really liked this modification and want it to become even better than now. Thank you for attention
P.S: Can I translate this mod for Russian-speaking players, please? Also, I can help you with adding more location to post-Soviet region and South Korea (I lived in these places for a long time).
Last edited by Zloy_S; Feb 20, 2019 @ 6:03pm
thecrazyscotsman  [developer] Feb 20, 2019 @ 2:27pm 
Thank you for the feedback, it is very valuable! I will be incorporating most of your comments in my next update, along with several other features.

I would be happy to have you translate this, but let me figure a few more things out on the back end before getting started so I can incorporate the translations easily into my database.
Zloy_S Feb 23, 2019 @ 3:25am 
Hello there! This is a gorgeous update and thanks for fixes! I used enough time to check all names for their existence and here I found all mispeech for this mod. I will divide them into several subtopics so it will be easier for you to figure it out:
Writing Errors or Misspelling
  • Popcatépetl - change to Popocatépetl
  • Sichura Desert - it is actually Sechura Desert
  • Black Burn - please, change to Blackburn River
  • Dubh Eas - change to Eas Dubh
  • Nosy Be - change it to Nosy-Be Volcano
Incorrect type or does not exist
  • Highland Main Line - it is a railway line in Scotland, not a river
  • Scots Language - it is a language
  • Stob Ghabhar - it is a mountain, not a river
  • Kazakh Desert - this desert doesn't exist - it is a combination of several deserts in SW and S of Kazakhstan
  • Dzungaria - it is mostly mountaneous region, not a desert (you already have Taklamakan desert, which is part of Dzungaria)
  • Dunajec River Gorge - actually, it is not a mountain. You could rename it to 'Peininy Mountains' (where this is actually located)
  • Glen Roy - it is written as 'Glenroy River' (unless you meant mountaneous region in Scotland, then change it to mountain)
Wrong number of apostrophes
    You should leave only one apostrophe for every pair
  • Aunu''u, Vailulu''u, Mo''orea, Diana''s Peak, Tassili N''ajjer, Cherang''any Hills, Ru''us Al-Jibal
  • Hai''an Range, Dragon''s Back, Dranse D''abondance, Gave D''aspe, Gave D''oloron, Devil''s Water, Earl''s Sluice
  • St. John''s Beck, Bushman''s River, N''waswitshaka River, Da''an River, Omand''s Creek, A''becketts Creek, Ch''iyar Juqhu River
  • Ch''aki Mayu, Ch''alla Jawira, Ch''uch''u Jawira, Chuqi Q''awa, Jach''a Jawira, Jach''a Uma, Laq''a Jawira
  • Q''inqu Mayu, Q''illumayu River, Sinqa Wayq''u, Serra D''En Celler, Serra D''En Galceran, Serra D''espadà, Serra de L''espadella
  • Serra D''esparreguera, Talaies D''alcalà, Serra de la Vall D''àngel, Rub'' al Khal
Complete Name Changes
  • Canadian Rockies - it is related to Canada, so I recommend you renaming it to Mount Robson (highest peak there) or 'Muskwa Range' (far northern part of mountains)
  • Japanese Alps - you can rename it to 'Nihon Arupusu', which is more suitable ingame (unless you make it appear for Japan only)
Remove it or give specific country mark (don't know if it's possible)
  • Moai - this is a submarine volcano. Moreover, it has the same name as an improvement
  • Pabellón de Inca - it is optional, but what if there is no Inca in game (however, if you make it appear for Incas only, it's okay)
  • Kick em Jenny - it is a submarine volcano (but the name is funny tho)
  • West Vent - for most people it won't be clear to be an actual name
  • U.s. Interior Highlands - well, it is clearly seen to be related to USA. So, you can rename it to 'Ouachita Mountains' (one of its ranges)
  • North River - it is related to direction that makes it difficult to understand
Add Landform Mark
  • Ban, Bic, Ier, Iod, Nera, Tur, Aura - please, add 'River' to them since it may create some confusion
Needed to make capital letters
  • Ja Volcano - in fact, it is abbreviature of 'John Adams Volcano', which is located in New Mexico. Please, make both letters capital
  • Phi pan nam Range - each letter should be capital so 'Phi Pan Nam Range'
  • Daen lao Range - each letter should be capital so 'Daen Lao Range'
  • Kamnik–savinja Alps - each letter should be capital so 'Kamnik–Savinja Alps'
  • Dong Phaya yen Mountains - each letter should be capital so 'Dong Phaya Yen Mountains'
  • Khun tan Range - each letter should be capital so 'Khun Tan Range'
  • Nakhon si Thammarat Range - each letter should be capital so 'Nakhon Si Thammarat Range'
  • Bolshoy ik River - first letter in each word should be capital, so 'Bolshoy Ik River'
  • Bolshoy kub River - first letter in each letter should be capital, so 'Bolshoy Kub River'
  • Bolshoy lip River - first letter in each letter should be capital, so 'Bolshoy Lip River'
  • Great kei River - first letter in each letter should be capital, so 'Great Kei River'
  • White kei River - first letter in each letter should be capital, so 'White Kei River'
  • Huai mae Phuak, Huai mae Sin, Huai mae Thawip, Huai nam Chun, Huai nam Duk, Huai pa Daeng, Khlong ban Bong, Khlong Chorakhe sam Phan, Khlong lam Kong, Khwae yai River, Lam dom Noi, Lam nam Yang, Nam mae Kham Mi, Nam mae Lai, Nam mae Phong, Pa sak River, Wat ta yom River, Nho quế River, Quây sơn River, Sha tau kok River, Bồ đề River, Bến tre River, Bình di River, Cà lồ River, Cà ty River, Châu đốc River, Cu đê River, Cửa lớn River, Đồng nai River, Kinh môn River, Krông ana River, Krông nô River, La ngà River, Long đại River, Lục nam River, Mỹ tho River, Nam sam River, Nhật lệ River, Ông đốc River, Phó đáy River, Thị vải River, Thu bồn River, Vàm cỏ Đông River, Vàm nao River, Anse du mé River, Te hoe River, Do sal River, Poxim açu River, De la Laguna River, Estero la Cadena, Estero los Litres, Estero los Loros, Corozelul sec River, - first letter in each word should be capital (see above)
  • Mcconnell River, Mccabe Creek - capital letter after 'Mc' prefix. So it should be 'McConnell River' and 'McCabe Creek' respectively
  • Rivière du cap Rouge - add one capital letter, so 'Rivière du Cap Rouge'
  • Río de las Vegas - make a capital letter, so 'Río de Las Vegas'
  • Manganui o te ao River - make a capital letter, so 'Manganui o te Ao River'
  • Cruz del eje River - make a capital letter, so 'Cruz del Eje River'
  • Río de los Patos - make a capital letter, so 'Río de Los Patos'
  • San Juan del oro River - make a capital letter, so 'San Juan del Oro River'
  • Cărbunarea de jos River, Cărbunarea de sus River, Cheia rea River - add capital letters fot 'Jos', 'Rea' and 'Sus' respectively
  • Coasta lui rus River, Galbena de sud River, Groapa cu var River, Groapa de aur River, Mașa-bașa River, , Sadul lui sân River, Sfânta ana River, - add capital letter in 'Rus', 'Sud', 'Var', 'Aur', 'Bașa', 'Sân', 'Ana'
  • Pietrosu de jos River, Pietrosu de sus River, Mărsinetul de jos River, Mărsinetul de sus Rive, Lipiașul de jos River, Lipiașul de sus River, Lazul de jos River, Lazul de sus River - add capital letter in 'Jos', 'Sus'
thecrazyscotsman  [developer] Feb 23, 2019 @ 4:47pm 
Very thorough feedback! I've gone ahead and fixed the double quotes issue with a quick update which shouldn't impact save games. I'll save most of the other changes for the next big update. A quick note though: I'm mostly ok with seamounts (for example, I'm keeping Kick Em Jenny), but will definitely remove those that could cause confusion (like Moai).

I really appreciate your continued feedback! And I'm going to be setting up another discussion soon to talk about translations.
rlong9000 Feb 24, 2019 @ 12:34pm 
@thecrazyscottsman - Are the instances of mislabeling in Giant Earth , such as the Potomac River label on the Colorado and Kilauea label on Mt Ranier, and Mt Ranier label on some carribean volcano, the result of firaxis code? And can/will this mod correct correct those conditions?

Honestly, it is so distracting, one finds themselves wishing they could just toggle all the labels off!

Thanks for all you add to the game!
thecrazyscotsman  [developer] Feb 24, 2019 @ 1:25pm 
@rlong9000 - Place Names would need to be manually assigned in the TSL maps, so this mod is not designed to address that as that would probably need to be done on the YNAEMP side. However, you CAN turn off all labels! Just open the little menu in the bottom left where you would normally turn on/off yields and resource icons!
zebenji Feb 24, 2019 @ 2:11pm 
That's an amazing long list; as I play Civ 6 mostly in French, I can't fully use your mod right now (as a proper French translation would require months of work, with gender, plurality and all... not even sure that things like gender can be updated with a SQL request).

Just two tiny remarks/suggestions though:

1. Just like in GS, for France, you forgot to mention the Garonne river, one of the major French rivers. You also omitted quite "big" rivers like the Dordogne, the Saône, the Lot or the Tarn. All these belong to the "Top 10" French rivers in terms of length.

2. As for Canada, I would suggest the river Saint John (Saint-Jean in French, Wolastoq in Maliseet/Wolastoqiyik). Might not be the longest river in Canada, but it forms most of the border between New Brunswick (Canada) and Maine (United States).

Great job overall!
thecrazyscotsman  [developer] Mar 2, 2019 @ 5:05pm 
@zebenji - thanks for the feedback! I've incorporated your suggestions into v4, just released.
Zloy_S Mar 3, 2019 @ 4:43am 
Hello, thecrazyscotsman! Firstly, big thanks to all changes you applied for names, now game experience is more immerse. And also I looked over your new version and found some possible changes for future updates:
Capital Lettering Change
  • Ad-dahna - correctly written as 'ad-Dahna'
  • Deliblatska Peščara - no capital letter in 'Peščara'
  • Mu us Desert - capital letter in 'us'
  • Tirari–sturt Stony Desert - capital letter needed for 'sturt'
  • Wadi el Natrun,Wadi el Hitran - capital letter needed for 'el'
  • Ba vì Mountains - capital letter needed for 'vì'
  • Bayan har Mountains - capital letter for 'har'
Name Changes and Spelling Errors
  • Gilf el Kebir - it is either 'Gilf Kebir' or 'Gilf al-Kebir'
  • Akamala Machad Mountainss - remove one 's' in 'Mountainss'
  • Jafurah - I recommend you to add 'Basin' to this name
  • Nordhouse Dunes Wilderness - 'Wilderness' here referred to national park act, not a part of a name, so it should be just 'Nordhouse Dunes
  • Lomas - actually, it is a definition of geographical formation in Peru- the most bloomy part of desert (you can rename it to 'Atiquipa Lomas')
Apostrophe Changes
  • Devils Playground - add apostrophe to 'Devils'
  • You've got this apostrophe bug again for numerous names (if not all which were before). I think this is caused by XML tag specialty, so I suggest you to change ' symbol to ’ or ‘ (difference in Unicode, which may solve such problem)
thecrazyscotsman  [developer] Mar 4, 2019 @ 5:41pm 
Awesome continued feedback! I'm continuing to incorporate the changes, and will be replacing the apostrophe character
'
with the Armenian apostrophe character
՚
to hopefully solve this annoying issue once and for all!
for clarity I would rename Kisiskaciwani Sipiy to Saskatchewan River
siau2tie1 Apr 7, 2019 @ 12:03am 
When I was playing the Qin Shi Huang, I found a river called Qishan River.
That's wrong. Qishan is a mountain 岐山 in Chinese, not a river.
But you can rename it to Qi River, as there is a river 淇 in China.
Zloy_S Apr 14, 2019 @ 11:24pm 
Hello there! It's been a long time since my last comment. Here I found several typos while translating to Russian:
Category mistake
  • Kouga River - change it to 'River' category (now it's mountain)
  • Volcán Atitlán, Volcán de Agua, Volcán de Flores, Volcán de Fuego, Volcán Ipala, Volcán Jumaytepeque, Volcán Santo Tomás, Volcán Siete Orejas, Volcán Tacaná, Volcán Tajumulco, Volcán Tolimán - they are volcanos, not mountains
  • Abhainn Rangail - actually, 'Abhainn' here is not a main word. It is 'River Ridge' that is definitely a mountain type
Better to Delete
  • Hungarian Mountains - better to delete since we have Hungary in Gathering Storm
  • Italian Julian Alps - it includes name of civilization that can confuse
  • North American Cordillera - it has a name of continent and direction
  • Olifants River Mountains - river name in it
  • Orogeny - not a name of a mountain, but a process of mountain-buiding
  • Peninsular Ranges, Syrian Coastal Mountains, Valdivian Coastal Range, Venezuelan Coastal Range - it may be found far away from any coast
  • Bahr Yussef - it's a canal, not a river
  • Slavkovský Les - in reality it is a mountain, but for many people it may be very confusing (especially from Eastern Europe)
Needed to Rename
  • Red Sea Hills - related to coastal regions, you can rename it to 'Itbay' (in Arabian)
  • A'becketts Creek - 'B' has to be capital letter
  • Sông mã Range - capital M needed
  • Hex River Mountains - better change to its name in afrikaans - "Hexrivierberge"
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