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please nerf goblin and mech
goblin and mech too imba please nerf , and nowadays everyone is playing goblin and mech, it is so disgusting, you have to nerf it to make the game balance
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lol..
use mages
and at high ranks (rook/queen/king) almost nobody play goblins, because they r still weak and dont have any synergy options

watch some streams - Amaz, Superjj102, Trump.. and u see that
Отредактировано Noeat; 11 мар. 2019 г. в 11:03
Автор сообщения: Lost
goblin and mech too imba please nerf , and nowadays everyone is playing goblin and mech, it is so disgusting, you have to nerf it to make the game balance

Yeah I beat goblins earlier today with knights/demons. If youre going elves or dragons youre gonna lose. You have to adapt. Like the other guy said, mages are a good option. Goblins only steamroll if the person rolls super high and gets it before anyone else can complete their synergies. Just gotta adapt.
goblin mech is OP easy beginer game easy mid game and easy lategame. even you cant find 6th goblin probably you are in first three
Автор сообщения: intruderia
goblin mech is OP easy beginer game easy mid game and easy lategame. even you cant find 6th goblin probably you are in first three
in pawn lobby yes
but at high ranks no - look at rooks/queens/kings streams - Amaz, Superjj102, Trump..
u need learn2play
Автор сообщения: Noeat
Автор сообщения: intruderia
goblin mech is OP easy beginer game easy mid game and easy lategame. even you cant find 6th goblin probably you are in first three
in pawn lobby yes
but at high ranks no - look at rooks/queens/kings streams - Amaz, Superjj102, Trump..
u need learn2play
You are a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and have no idea. 6 warriors give 15 armor to 6 units. 6 goblins give 15 armor and hp reg to ALL units...where is this balanced ? The only reason not to go goblin is cause everyone picks them and it's hard to get all 6. Thats why the high ranks don't go with them cause you need the most luck out of every comb. But if you get it...you are destroying everyone. Goblins where fine before the buff aswell...there are still other combs who was and are still much weaker
Автор сообщения: n00bfight3r
Автор сообщения: Noeat
in pawn lobby yes
but at high ranks no - look at rooks/queens/kings streams - Amaz, Superjj102, Trump..
u need learn2play
You are a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and have no idea. 6 warriors give 15 armor to 6 units. 6 goblins give 15 armor and hp reg to ALL units...where is this balanced ? The only reason not to go goblin is cause everyone picks them and it's hard to get all 6. Thats why the high ranks don't go with them cause you need the most luck out of every comb. But if you get it...you are destroying everyone. Goblins where fine before the buff aswell...there are still other combs who was and are still much weaker
u have no idea about this game :)
Saying mechs are op is overdoing it i think, they do feel a lil unbalanced early game though if you get the 3 pieces. Late game anything that can beat their regen will win. Disruptor, DK combos, mage, any well timed AoE combos. with itemisation troll warlord build will obliterate mech. Mechs don't scale that well with items.
even i dont want to go with goblin. early game i buy two of them. it sticks me to game until round 4 or 5. no counter at the beginning of the game.
Автор сообщения: Intruder
even i dont want to go with goblin. early game i buy two of them. it sticks me to game until round 4 or 5. no counter at the beginning of the game.
only war/knights, rogues, elementals+some strong dps

but.. ye, goblins are decent at start
You can’t judge there are 6 goblins are weak and easy counter by others combo, you have to think the other 4 pieces(especially mage or naga) that combo with goblin, once they have all 6 goblin the other 4 chess will gain their buff as well and is op, tanky front line and high destruction back line with high regeneration . You have no idea how desperate in late game with those regeneration. Normally they will have more advantage in early game , so in fact they will have good economics in early game because of streak win, then easily to increase capacity to 10 and high chance to reroll chess to get all 6. None of the series has these early and late gamr advantages.Please it’s imbalance please nerf it.
I think Goblin early game is kinda broken, but that would be easy to adjust. Mid game and Late game are a different matter. The goblin combo is rather weak mid and late game. Most people aren't investing their teams to locking in 6 goblins mid and late game because they require the other pieces to make their teams work, especially with the goblin warlock nerf and the other goblins tier, it makes it much less viable. Early game though, that buff coupled with the mech buff is a bit much. I think nerfing the mech buff would be better, as the two paired together is what really makes it an early game issue. Having 3 goblin mechs and an enchantress is too beefy that early.
Автор сообщения: Lost
You can’t judge there are 6 goblins are weak and easy counter by others combo, you have to think the other 4 pieces(especially mage or naga) that combo with goblin, once they have all 6 goblin the other 4 chess will gain their buff as well and is op, tanky front line and high destruction back line with high regeneration . You have no idea how desperate in late game with those regeneration. Normally they will have more advantage in early game , so in fact they will have good economics in early game because of streak win, then easily to increase capacity to 10 and high chance to reroll chess to get all 6. None of the series has these early and late gamr advantages.Please it’s imbalance please nerf it.
do u think other combos (6 mages for example) dont use another pieces and synergies? ;-) because u just ignore that..

u really need learn2play ..watch some queens/rooks streams - Amaz, Superjj102, Trump.. and u never tell again that BS like goblins are OP :-D

u cant judge this game by pawns lobby
Отредактировано Noeat; 14 мар. 2019 г. в 9:53
@Noeat I have watched their streams. They usually play with the exact same people and rarely in an open lobby cause they are afraid a Knight2 will drop their asses (also fear a racial slur getting spammed on their stream). When you remove them from their nice little isolated box, they usually do about the same as I do in matches and finish in the top 3. And, let's be honest, down in the Knight and Bishop dreggs, you still see goblin/mech combos a LOT. I have seen the streamer "pros" do it to, but they usually rotate so their content is better and there is more variety. Goblin/Mech combos are OP for the first 10 player rounds, but it all depends on what ♥♥♥♥ hand you are dealt with RNG too. Comparing the normal gameplay for this to what the streamers are doing is rather dumb.
Автор сообщения: Molemanorama
@Noeat I have watched their streams. They usually play with the exact same people and rarely in an open lobby cause they are afraid a Knight2 will drop their asses (also fear a racial slur getting spammed on their stream). When you remove them from their nice little isolated box, they usually do about the same as I do in matches and finish in the top 3. And, let's be honest, down in the Knight and Bishop dreggs, you still see goblin/mech combos a LOT. I have seen the streamer "pros" do it to, but they usually rotate so their content is better and there is more variety. Goblin/Mech combos are OP for the first 10 player rounds, but it all depends on what ♥♥♥♥ hand you are dealt with RNG too. Comparing the normal gameplay for this to what the streamers are doing is rather dumb.
they play against other rooks/queens/kings :)
u cant compare pawn lobby where ppl dont know what they do with queen lobby.. thats why in pawn lobby goblins rulez.. because ppl dont have any idea how counter them, how use undeads for example.. and other synergies
Отредактировано Noeat; 14 мар. 2019 г. в 10:49
Автор сообщения: Noeat
Автор сообщения: Lost
You can’t judge there are 6 goblins are weak and easy counter by others combo, you have to think the other 4 pieces(especially mage or naga) that combo with goblin, once they have all 6 goblin the other 4 chess will gain their buff as well and is op, tanky front line and high destruction back line with high regeneration . You have no idea how desperate in late game with those regeneration. Normally they will have more advantage in early game , so in fact they will have good economics in early game because of streak win, then easily to increase capacity to 10 and high chance to reroll chess to get all 6. None of the series has these early and late gamr advantat ges.Please it’s imbalance please nerf it.
do u think other combos (6 mages for example) dont use another pieces and synergies? ;-) because u just ignore that..

u really need learn2play ..watch some queens/rooks streams - Amaz, Superjj102, Trump.. and u never tell again that BS like goblins are OP :-D

u cant judge this game by pawns lobby

Oh ya you think 6 mages are easily to survive in early game? Do you know what is early game suppression? In high rank game,everyone will suppress you in early game, even you reach late game , but naga will do it , they will observe the probability players that can survive till the last and develop suitable counters.
Stop promoting them dude. And I am sorry I totally think that they are not better than china players and even differ in a big gap, i watch their stream and tournament, they can use goblin and mech with others combination to reach perfection. And they are much more technical and smarter and using more complicated combination.Fm they are more technical in positioning, psychological warfare, early game advantage suppress,leveling suppress,item distribution and more. Therefore they are the founder of this game and they have a board game named 'Mahjong' which is similar to this game.And please see the table of ranking 10 out of 9 chinese players dude.As people says 'there is always someone who is better' Stop acting pro, trust me go watch China player plays, and you will know you just a frog under the bottom of well dude.
Отредактировано ...; 14 мар. 2019 г. в 11:42
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