STAR WARS™ Empire at War: Gold Pack

STAR WARS™ Empire at War: Gold Pack

EaWX: Thrawn's Revenge 3.4 (Updated April 2nd)
Wermz May 18, 2021 @ 12:07pm
New Faction Ideas (If you need them)
I feel like the Crimson Dawn could work, and many people would like to see that specific crime syndicate also with the Hutts. I believe both of this factions could be implemented, because both crime syndicates don't have a similar government and or possibly play style. The Crimson Dawn unfortunately couldn't have Maul :(, but it could/would consist of multiple "smaller" syndicates and groups such as the Pyke Syndicate, Remnants of Deathwatch, and The Black Sun. The Crimson Dawn could consist of ships, heroes, and troopers from those groups and syndicates. The government style of the Crimson Dawn could be kind of like the Confederacy in Fall of The Republic but different, basically where you have to first purchase their support like in Fall of The Republic then if you have multiple groups or syndicates purchased, you have to pay the groups on maybe a bi-weekly basis or do certain missions for them to continue their support. The Crimson Dawn could also maybe have a special building on certain planets called "Spice Factory" where you can produce spice in order to pay the groups to continue supporting the cause (So this being the ONLY currency to purchase their initial planets and then their support). Now contrasting the Crimson Dawn from the possible Hutt Cartel, the Hutt government would be strictly based on either keeping the Hutt alive, and or when the Hutt dies hiring a relative/sibling of said deceased Hutt, while the Crimson Dawn is strictly based on purchasing the support of smaller groups and syndicates (when you have a group or syndicate, then you get the heroes, ships, and troopers. When you stop paying, then you lose everything given until you pay up). Now the base troopers for the Crimson Dawn before you buy any groups or syndicates could/would be the black troopers from the Han Solo movie. The base heroes could be Dryden Vos, Qi'ra, Beckett, maybe like one or two captains/commanders, and maybe like one or two admirals. Now for the base ships... to be honest, I couldn't tell ya. I was considering Dryden Vos's ship model, but 1. There needs to be variety, 2. That should be Dryden Vos's personal ship (he should be land and space, because he has his little dagger things).
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Cooler12351 May 18, 2021 @ 12:11pm 
This is a Legends mod and Crimson Dawn is a Canon faction.
Also Crimson down is pre Yavin and this mod takes place after Endor
Wermz May 18, 2021 @ 12:32pm 
For when you hire the Remnants of the Deathwatch, for the Heroes you can unlock could be some random Deathwatch mercenaries (kind of like the ones with Bo Katan in the Mando show but instead of being in the Night Owls, they would obviously have to be Deathwatch remnants. For the ships, you could get like the gauntlet cruisers/corvettes and maybe some starfighters. (Deathwatch is strong for land units and heroes.) And for troopers, they could have standard Deathwatch troopers, Deathwatch super commandos, and possibly mandalorian apcs and tanks.
Wermz May 18, 2021 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Cooler12351:
This is a Legends mod and Crimson Dawn is a Canon faction.
Also Crimson down is pre Yavin and this mod takes place after Endor
I understand the Crimson Dawn is Cannon, but the crimson dawn was made bby, but it still lived on aby. 4 ABY the New Republic Senate remade Sector Rangers for the Crimson Dawn because they were a rising threat eventually falling.
Wermz May 18, 2021 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by Cooler12351:
This is a Legends mod and Crimson Dawn is a Canon faction.
Also Crimson down is pre Yavin and this mod takes place after Endor
Going back to what I said earlier, the Crimson Dawn finally lost it's sub-sequential power decades after the battle of yavin
Wermz May 18, 2021 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by Cooler12351:
This is a Legends mod and Crimson Dawn is a Canon faction.
Also Crimson down is pre Yavin and this mod takes place after Endor
Here's the link where I got my info at, it's under the "Legacy" title https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Crimson_Dawn
Cooler12351 May 18, 2021 @ 12:45pm 
Okay
The Devs said very often very clear that no Canon things will be added
Wermz May 18, 2021 @ 1:01pm 
When you hire the Pykes, the possible heroes you could unlock could be Marg Krim, and maybe a couple other Pyke captains, commanders, admirals etc. For the troopers you could unlock could be just standard Pykes and maybe some like enforcers or something. The ships you could unlock could be... I honestly don't know. But when supporting the Pykes, you could get access to advanced spice refineries or like "slave camps" like the one on Kessel in the Solo movie. But the Pykes main purpose is to increase the economy.
Wermz May 18, 2021 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by Cooler12351:
Okay
The Devs said very often very clear that no Canon things will be added
Yeah, but they could use this info for another mod, or someone else can... Im just providing info.
Wermz May 18, 2021 @ 1:04pm 
Originally posted by Cooler12351:
Okay
The Devs said very often very clear that no Canon things will be added
Thank you for this info, because I didn't know, but as I said i'm just providing info, and anyone can use it. I'm just trying to share my ideas and be helpful
Wermz May 18, 2021 @ 1:15pm 
For the Black Sun, the heroes you could unlock could be Ziton Moj and maybe some black sun mercenaries and or assassins. For the ships, you could unlock the Conqueror-class assault ship, the Nemisis-class patrol ship, the Pantolomin cruiser, the X4 gunship, and finally the Warlord heavy cruiser. As for the troops, maybe just some black sun basic infantry and maybe some black sun medical units. The Black Sun is more of a fleet-oriented group/syndicate.
Wermz May 18, 2021 @ 1:20pm 
Finally for the Hutts (not affiliated with the Crimson Dawn), just like in the video Cory Loses posted (don't remember the exact one) the Hutts ships could consist of those he explained, the troopers could strictly have mercenary-ish troopers. As for heroes I still need to do my research, but this is all I have. I hope someone can use this info for something they're making. I also hope my info was accurate and useful.
SR Forsaken May 18, 2021 @ 6:29pm 
*yawns* They already have a flushed out Hutt faction and is one of the next factions to be added. They will not be adding disney cannon or Fandom units, heroes, or worlds. Good ideas regardless for people wanting to do submods but thats about it. And since they are about to add the hutts to the game its very unlikely someone will do a submod. There technically is a black sun/hutt expansion submod that was added but it is outdated, just like all the other submods. Basically im saying theres nothing new you've shared. Sorry.

The reason behind the constant "no" towards small factions being playable or introduced is because the amount of work needed to add something that has either a very small roster, a very small significance, or isn't relevant to the given timeline the mod is placed in.

There is however "Revans Revenge" & "Imperial Reign" TBA that will make room for some of these factions however if its purely FANDOM or DISNEY it will never see the light of day unless someone makes their own submod. And no one is going to do that any time soon.

Simply going to the fandom/wiki and coping ideas from there and sharing them here does nothing. The players and devs are very knowledgeable already. Don't get me wrong, the suggestions are welcome but the problem lies with how persistent you come across. Clearly you really want more crime factions introduced and I simply do not want you to get your hopes up (and hopefully) telling you that the Hutt expansion soon to release for TR will cover most of your bases.
SR Forsaken May 18, 2021 @ 6:37pm 
There is also a huge difference when siting something in star wars lore that is either "Legends" or "Legacy." The two things are completely different.
When reading the page you linked about the crimson dawn you CLEARLY see that all the sources and appearances are from "Solo, a Star Wars Story." no where is the word "legends" listed.
And when you review content on the Wookieepedia site, each page at the top before you get to any info its listed as either cannon or legends or both. Also, Wookieepedia is not a very good source for info. It's heavily outdated and is easily edited by whomever wishes to do so.
Wermz May 18, 2021 @ 6:51pm 
Well thanks for the information, basically I practically wasted my time. But the Wookiepedia wasn't my only source of information (so it's not like I was "copying ideas from all of the sources I used" but I was trying to piece together the information I had to make sense.) Also don't get me wrong I know Wookiepedia can be edited and is outdated, but if you CLEARLY (lol) scroll down on the sources list you can see other sources than just Solo Movie stuff.
SR Forsaken May 18, 2021 @ 7:08pm 
Okay, so theres also disney books published in 2019 and etc.

everything not titled as the Solo movie in sources also comes from,

Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Character Encyclopedia - Join the Battle! is a canon reference book written by Jason Fry. It was published by Dorling Kindersley on April 1, 2021.

If you scroll down (lol) and clearly research what the sources actually ARE and not just concluding that because it doesnt say "DISNEY" or "SOLO STORY" in the TITLE that its unique or relevant.
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