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Alternative History, events, Loading Screen, Missions and Decisions, New Nations, Religion
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Third Odyssey: Back to the Motherland

Description
Summary

Explore the new world in an alternate history, as the true emperor of the romans embarks on a grand odyssey. Displace the unsuspecting natives, or harmonise with them. Encounter an unexpected but not unfamiliar rival in this new world. Build up your forces, and when the time is right, take back the motherland!

Compatibility

Mod Version 1.24.2.9 - compatible with EUIV 1.37.5 (not ironman compatible)
DLC-free product, no major gameplay content is locked behind DLC features!
Changelog[pastebin.com] - includes full list of content and direct download link

WARNING: This mod is incompatible with pretty much any mod that alters the gameplay or makes major changes to the user interface! A list of mods we checked for compatibility can be seen here[docs.google.com].

ATTENTION: You can check your mod version ingame by looking at top left corner of the main menu. If it does not match the version specified below try unsubscribing and resubscribing again.

Official submods

Custom unit models:
  • Rhomanía/Elysia requires Elysian Units
  • Markland/Helluland/Vinland requires "Trade Nations Unit Pack"
  • Spartania requires "El Dorado Unit Pack"
Note: These DLCs are not required to play the mod, your units will just use generic models.



Discord

Join our Discord[discord.gg], where you can talk to devs, submit suggestions and post those awesome screenshots of your glorious empire! And while you are at it check the EU4 Discord channel[discord.gg] as well.

About

This mod is a sequel to the original "Third Odyssey" made by "Lichtkang", and would not be possible without my co-modders. It has grown a lot since it branched off from the original, adding tons of new content for you to enjoy!

Originally posted by Lichtkang:
This mod started out as a desire to colonise the new world as a faltering Byzantium and has grown out to be a much larger project than originally expected. Discover a new experience as a young, technologically and philosophically advanced nation in a New World, with all its wonders and perils.

The new Nation of Elysia has great potential to grow and become a local superpower. A ton of events and decisions give a lot of context and flavor to the nation and shapes its growth and feel. There's allot of events to discover, and depending on the choices you make your experience could change completely! Will you remain a loyal orthodox christian, or denounce the God that refused to help at times of great peril in favor of the old gods? Will you take along every possible artifact that may be of great boon, or will you take as much supplies and people as possible to avoid collapsing your economy and being overrun by natives? Consider your actions carefully, you can never know what future trouble may arise out of seemingly easy choices...


Features

Gameplay:
  • Rhomania - the new world nation originating from the Byzantine empire
  • Event chain surrounding the trip to the new world, influencing how you will play the game
  • New religions - a revived Hellenic faith, Orthodox offshoot, and syncretic pagan faith for Mesoamerica
  • Fully custom tribal development, native governments and confederations
  • Vikings! Another old-world origins power, now a rival in the new world, Vinland
  • Emerging successor state in Mesoamerica, Spartakon
  • Various new minor nations, whose fate is steered through your choices
  • Return to Europe and reconquer the ancestral lands guided by an extensive event chain
  • New songs for the Exiled Nations, found in the music submod
  • Unique estates, idea groups, events, decisions...



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More information

To report bugs and give suggestions feel free to use the "bugs" and "suggestions" section of the workshop file, but prefer our discord for faster responses and better discussions.

Special thanks:
  • Parmelion for allowing me to use the artwork from Para Bellum for one of the achievements.
  • Chewy for allowing me to use the artwork from Post Finem for one of the achievements.
  • Blarghalt and Jan for allowing me and my crew the use of their Vikings of Vinland and Hellenic Polytheism files.
  • Utopia for the custom main theme music
  • Dorimi and associates of the Purple Phoenix Rises mod for some of the event images and the basis of the Elysian flag.
  • Lord Elderberry for First Nations of Canada and mahna mahna for Expanded Eastern Natives mod files.
  • Coragamy for help with Greek history
  • The many beta testers from our Discord server
  • The EU4 Mod Coop Discord server
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XartaX 2 hours ago 
Yeah we're all high on copium that the game will be good lmao
Scurek  [author] 4 hours ago 
@HawaiianBuffaloCollector
I've added all your mods I haven't checked before to our compatibility spreadsheet (link in the description above). Anyhow this specific issue is caused by Realistic African Colonization [1.37], which also tweaks where people can colonize.
Your list also has the following incompatible mods: AI Wants Nice Borders [1.37], Ages and Splendor Expanded, Ages Reformed (those two are also incompatible between eachother), Advisor Types Expanded (rather minor incompatibility), Responsible Blobbing (minor incompatibility, but can cause issues since it allows revolution to spread to your provinces) and Colonial Freedom [1.37].

@XartaX
Yeah, that's about the only things that can be kinda "kept", although it would also be a good opportunity to give them a proper rework. You make a fair point about population, although as you said we have to wait and see if those internal mechanics (and the game in general) is any fun.
AxiomExotic 7 hours ago 
I mean you clearly have 3 colonization altering mods, start by disabling those and see if it works then :D
HawaiianBuffaloCollector 7 hours ago 
I am playing with a bunch of other mods. I dunno which one would be messing with it, but here's the list if you'd like to take a look: https://i.imgur.com/AgdyyTm.png
XartaX 15 hours ago 
I mean you'd still get to keep a lot of the stuff. For example religion, whether it's creating their own offshoot of Orthodox, or returning to a Hellenistic religion. Of course you'd need to write a scenario with different characters, but that's inevitable with a 100 year gap.

And like I said, in EU5 population and markets are a much bigger part of the game than EU4. So arriving there with a smaller population and no industry to speak of (and very little, if anything, to source from neighbors) will be something you need to work at fixing if you're going to be able to stand up to Europe later. If anything I think the mod in EU5 (assuming the game doesn't suck) will have a less boring start than in the EU4 mod, since you actually have a lot of mechanics regarding the internal structure of your nation to work with.
Midnight 23 hours ago 
@Scurek
I hope you find either a different satisfactory premise or another way around the fact that the game starts in the early 14th century.
Maybe you could go for that an expedition escapes when the black death hits to escape the plague.

Also would that be an excellent point to either steal some pops from byzantium for elysia or spawn some in as the world would be losing a lot of pops already and if you take them from byzantium it would just simulate them getting hit a bit harder then the gameresult.
Scurek  [author] May 18 @ 2:41am 
@HawaiianBuffaloCollector
Are you running any other mods? The -1000 malus is just a backup if they somehow get a colony via a peace deal, they normally shouldn't be able to colonize at all. But if you have any other mod that tweaks the "rules" of the game this restriction can get overriden.
Scurek  [author] May 18 @ 2:41am 
@XartaX
I mean yeah the content would have to be "remade", but in a 1444 setting the flavor and story could be kept pretty much the same. 100 years earlier the carracks are not a thing (cries in the loading screen picture), Plethon doesn't exist, Empire is still there and is not guaranteed to fall (if the story is that you are some sort of expedition), etc.
Also 100 year gap kinda messes with the pacing, you have to start much weaker relatively so you aren't a continental superpower before Europeans arrive, making early game much more of a "watch colonies develop".
I'm not trying to sound overly pessimistic, just want to point out that TO starting in early 14th century is a whole another mod, that would be able to take very little from the current iteration.
HawaiianBuffaloCollector May 17 @ 8:06pm 
I've noticed that making the colonial agreement with Portugal (where you give them South America and they give you North America/Caribbean) doesn't seem to stop them from trying to colonize in the regions they gave you. I'm seeing them continually trying to colonize the Caribbean even though the -1000 malus kills their colony on the first monthly tick every time. Is that sort of AI behavior even something a mod can directly affect?
XartaX May 17 @ 4:32pm 
Also population is a huge part of EU5, so having a much lower starting population would be a serious roadblock you'd need to overcome. As well as a tiny market you'd need to get all the goods production online yourself, etc.