I'm playing LWOTC and have both sets of classes at the same time, which INI do I need to edit to remove the classes I don't want? I prefer Shinobi over Scrapper, there seems to be no point to the class. Hunters are way too OP and probably should have knives not swords and maybe even regular rifles (Strike Rifles from other mods are a nice compromise). Recons also seem useless, maybe give them sniper (or strike) rifle or stun gun? Dragoon healing ability is buggy, is there a way to replace it with regular Spec healing through INI / console?

The mod description says nope.

Is it possible to play this mod without Long War ?

Dont know if i have mentioned it but this mod hides defense value. So thats a no go from me sry.

Half way through a campaign using this mod and some others.

Noticed things seemed to be getting slightly easier / enemies missing more than expected, and realised that my one dragoon with Inspiration is bugged.

It is classed as a "persistent effect" when you hover over the green arrows when on a mission, and the issue is it is too persistent.

People who end a mission within 12 tiles of the dragoon get the buff permanently, and it gets reapplied over the top on the next mission.

I have a grenadier who has +60 will and +60 dodge now because this keeps stacking.

Now, my concern is that the other skills in the dragoon tree for that tier seem to be coded the same and count as a persistent effect.

Would the +10crit chance keep stacking from sensor overlays?

Would the 10% reducted detection radius and 5% reduced infiltration time keep stacking from ECM?

Anyway to fix this?

I have tried looking in the save file but its jibberish to me, and not sure what else to do!

Nvm, seemed it fixed itself somehow today

Okay, something is screwed up and I'm kicking myself in the arse. I wasn't seeing 'Recon' so I thought about re-subbing to the mod to try and refresh the files, but now I'm not seeing the mod AT ALL. It doesn't even download when I select 'Subcribe'. It's really going to suck if I can't use this mod anymore. Please help.

Hi, i only use dragoon and recon, and i have other classes disabled.
problem is op awc skills from those classes keep showing up for my normal soldiers.
Is there a way i can completely disable all awc skills from this pack?
And can i do that mid campaign?
Apologies if it's been asked before.

You are welcome to use code and art from Shadow Ops with credit. It's actually in the FAQ. :)

Hey guys, I love this mod - I've played it for literally hundreds of hours and it has some of my favorite skill trees to date (such as the Hunter's Stealth tree). Thank you! I'm making a mod with 10 new LW2 classes, and I could really use your help. I'm also officially asking for your permission to use a few of your abilities with my classes (I'll credit Shadow Ops, if that sounds alright). The full spreadsheet of what I'm trying to do is found in this post: https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/1128707437/1744483505473343477/
I also am seeking help to various questions to things I encounter as I'm a beginner developer, here: https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/discussions/18446744073709551615/1744483505480980666/?appid=268500

hot damn, my expectations have been exceeded! outstanding, thank you for informing me!

spacemannwhiff, you're in luck! Favid has done a port of these to WotC which you can find here:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1519841231

i suppose these aren't coming to war of the chosen?

i mean, i have no expectations, but i might as well ask

Welp. I mentioned it a long-ass time ago, but upon reinstalling this mod I endeavored to fix it, and I have. Turns out that infiltration-modifying abilities-- at least I believe it's specifically abilities and not items as well-- are INSANELY taxing on the system, especially when in the Geoscape. I went from 40 FPS steady on the Geoscape with this mod installed, to commenting out the skills in the InfiltrationSettings.ini file for ShadowOps here and gaining to 45, to doing the same thing in LW2's InfiltrationSettings.ini and getting it up to 55. So... yeah, wow. I'm testing right now to see if it's because, at some point, Pavonis forgot that they needed to be doing (decimaled number)f+ or if that even matters at all.

I'd like to report a bug with the Infantry perk 'Focus' that makes the first reaction shot a guaranteed hit. It works great and I'm having a lot of fun with it, but it does not appear to be using ammo.

@xylthixlm Thanks! I hadn't even considered giving her an assault rifle. That makes sense!

Suggested build: Eat This!, Lightning Reflexes, Sixth Sense, Close Encounters, Good Eye, Tactical Sense, Heavy Hitter. You get a decent (not great) assault rifle user with good defense, who can break overwatches and has some close-quarters punch. You can swap in some of the grenade perks for extra utility.

(The assault rifle focused build was originally stronger, but got watered down as a side effect of making the more fun shotgun and knife builds better. Sorry about that.)

So I'm playing a new LW2 campaign with shadow ops classes in addition to the base ones. I rolled a low mobility high aim scrapper, and I have NO idea what to do with her. Pretty much all of their skills require high mobility, which makes her kind of useless.

@Pain the hunter's sword works fine! It's the most fun class in my opinion.

The Hunter Class. The one that provides a Sniper Rifle and Sword combo... Well, I can't use the sword - so it's just for show? Think you could update/patch it? :D

Think you could release a page that describes each ability unlock? Most of the abilities I unlock are missing their templates. Other than that, excellent work!

WOTC update please!

make this a wotc update

Id love to know too :)

Are you going to make this for WOTC?

@DestroyerJamie because they rely on LW2 code and the rest don't or something like that.

Might I ask why only the Dragoon, CE, Infanty and Hunter are available as singluar mods while the others can only be used here.

@Rakdar Dragoon it seems. They can revive a soldier from bleeding out to back in the fight with most of their health.

So what fills the role of the healer class?

also smoke and mirrors and pupeteer don't seem to reduce the action point costs properly

the bug with Ready for Anything and Assassin failing to proc seems to be related to tactical saves for me. Works fine if I ironman it, but breaks almost every time with tactical saves. I do have a ton of mods active though.

will these class pack be able to be update for WOTC? i miss the dragoon.

Airstrike totally trivializes invasions, because those relays are always elevated. It turns it from a game of running to kill the relay into a game of clearing the map. Which is nice.

Really missing this in WotC. I'm currently playing with Richard's Classes instead, would love to mix and match. I do however understand just how LW2 dependent this mod is, so I'm not going to hold my breath.

Any chance of a perk pack or something?

That would be the Dragoon.

I'm confused what class takes the role of the specialist/hacker

My working assumption is that the bug is caused by an event registration getting lost or broken somehow, causing event-dependent skills like Assassin to fail to proc. The problem is that just having a save that's in that broken state isn't very helpful, since it doesn't tell me *why* it broke.

Much more helpful would be narrowing down the conditions where the bug triggers, e.g. "things only break when I save and reload in the middle of a mission" or "things only break when this other mod is active".

Once I catch a mission where the skills fail, I'll make a save of it and send it your way.

The hunter class is not working for me - I put a recuit though training; got the sniper skill but the other two skills are blanked out. So the recruit runs around with a sniper rifle and carries a sword but cannot use it... Any help would be appreciated.

I haven't been able to reproduce the skills failing to proc problem, so unless someone can figure out a reliable way of triggering it, I'm kind of stuck.

While I'm not going to pester about WOTC, could there be a bugfix pass? I love the classes, except for when a fair chunk of the time their skills fail to proc causing in some cases master sergent perks to not even function (Hunter's Assassin skill).

I would love to see some of these perks in WOTC. Excellent mod in general. Thanks for the hard work.

Yes.

Is that the same "no comment" the LW team gives us when someone asks about WotC?^^

:(

No comment.

Sorry to be the first one to ask for it, but....

....will there be a WOTC version? oO

so sure to the point i was turning on/off, one by one of the mods to find the source of the problem, that is this mod for some reason-

yes im sure, because as soon as i put it i only get strongboxes and datapads, nothing else

@Bluenix you sure? I run with both mods and the shift of drops from Advent loot box to alien to Ethereal and Advent datapads to aliens seem to me a function of time.