Could you add this & haute to the VE collection?

Cannibalism isn't so bad when you have a gourmet cupcake to go with it.

@Sojoez

In this (resource) economy?

Ah hell no!

These things costs nearly a hundred silver a piece.

Is it normal that the confections aren't autonomously used by paws?

God bless you good's man for this mod

Bread

Breads! :3

I know this sounds weird, but after I added the Luxury Cake to the oven’s bill list, my colonists started getting stuck for no apparent reason.

No

Can this be eaten Without a Table savely? Oo?

I can't help you then. We need all bug reports centralized

I can't do it. This website doesn't seem to be open in my country. I can only send the full error report here.

Then I need a full bug report in those conditions, and posted in our bug tracker, which is linked above

Yes, this error will still occur when I only have this mod and the necessary prefix.

Do you get that error with just this mod on its own?

I encountered a bug. I think it's the problem of this mod itself, because I found that my machine didn't work, and I just threw away all the potatoes, or deleted the work list of the oven, which can be solved without throwing away the potatoes. This is an error report. It is even a yellow warning entry, not a red warning entry, which made me very confused when troubleshooting, and it took me a long time to figure out what was going on.

Do you get that error with just this mod on its own?

Hi Sarg, sorry to bother you - This actually isn't just Robots behaving this way, I'm having the same issue as LINX is, but it's with regular pawns, not just robots. I hate to say it, but this one really might actually be this mod having a technical issue rather than it being another mod interacting weirdly with it.

TryMakePreToilReservations() returned false for a non-queued job right after StartJob(). This should have been checked before. pawn = Noah, curJob = PS_BringToProcessor (Job_10354813) A = Thing_VCE_BakeryOven_Electric4576426 Giver = JobGiver_Work [workGiverDef: PS_BringToProcessor]

I have no control over what robots from that mod do or don't do

If there is a bill in the baking oven, for example, one Gourment confections bill waiting to be filled with ingredients for baking. But the process cannot continue due to lack of some materials, the Haulingbots from the Misc. Robots mod will all stuck after saving and loading the game.

where's the tipjar to bring diabetes back as a toggleable in settings

pretty sure you could just medbay yourself out of that one regardless, gogo gadget reset pancreas or whatever

We HAD diabetes, and we removed it because everyone moaned about it lol

There's so much sugar in these confectionaries I'm amazed you guys didn't introduce diabetes as a downside for consuming them 😆

Will diabetes be part of the Vanilla Expanded Health? 😅 (I kid ofc)

Ahh, okay. Sorry, still new to all the mods and how they work. Trying to figure out how to let my pawns eat the confections without them being considered drugs lol

Milk is milk. Other milks are a different ThingDef

Doesn't seem to want to register Night Milk as a milk source with the Alpha Animals mod.

alpha 14 please

Update to 1.7?

Cake so good I forgot about my wife dying

there's a typo on one of the things!!

I've encountered a bug where my cupcakes don't do damange to ablative armor when using CE. Completely unplayable, please fix

@Frezia

That's called hard tack, and there's actually a hard tack Mod on the Workshop already.

It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake.

CE compatible?

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jk, awesome stuff as always
Although my dumb as red "Vanilla Cooking Expanded – Decorative Baking" and thought we're finally gonna get food props

Alpha 17 please?

Absolutely not

1.5 please?

20 sugar to not care my wife died? Priceless

We'll have to agree to disagree

"The best comparison for balancing would be by opportunity costs, not silver."

The silver cost is generally tied to the opportunity cost to keep the game balanced. The reason sugar is so expensive in silver is because it takes so long for a sugarcane plant to mature and yield its 2 sugar (aka opportunity cost).

Let me be clear, for a gourmet and lavish confectionary, the sugar cost is perfectly fine and justified. There's just no use case for simple confectionary to be economically justified because the sugar cost is so high that it doesn't warrant its use.

I don't want the gourmet and lavish confectionaries to be cheaper, they are actually in a perfect balance spot imho. It's the simple confectionary and fine confectionary that are in an awkward spot where there is very little use for them.

The best comparison for balancing would be by opportunity costs, not silver. Thanks for the mod Sarg! This community is built upon altruistic modders such as yourself

Who cares? Why are you even considering the cost of sugar? Are you buying your sugar instead of planting it?

Take a look at the raw costs;

Simple Confectionary = 121 silver for the sugar, 80 silver for the flour, total 201 / 4 = ~50 silver a piece

Lavish Confectionary = 201 silver, 38 silver for the milk and 44 silver for the vegetables, total 283 / 4 = ~71 silver a piece

Gourmet Confectionary = 283 silver + 12 silver (assuming more sugar lol) = 295 = ~73 silver.

The majority of the cost of confectionaries goes to sugar by a large margin, this makes simple confectionaries a waste of sugar. You're much better off just going straight for gourmet.

a 5x5 field of sugarcane would yield enough sugar for about 1 confectionary per day with the current sugar costs regardless of confectionary quality.

The gourmet version takes less time to produce than the fine and lavish due to a low tick rate for it to process (probably oversight)

Sugar costs are too high for simple / fine confectionaries imho. Otherwise they are fine for the lavish / gourmet versions.

Aww you just harvested and butchered a human? Have some cookie

It makes 4

Sugar costs seem quite steep ... 10 sugar for a cake batter? I need fields of sugarcane for my cakies lol. You just want me to run plantation slavery don't you Sarg?

Question! Since they contain vegetable; How does the gourmet & lavish confections work with carnivorous xenotypes? Should i ban them from eating those or is the diet issues ignored?
Its not mentioned anywhere & i doubt somehow making meat-alternatives would be popular.

hey @Sarg Bjornson, Love both of your works on the mods! Just a quick suggestion for my ADD brain lmao. If your going to make a cooking mod that allows you to make Breads (can't wait btw if so) could you please add a recipe for ship biscuits? It could be a really good shelf stable option for tribal starts, they were used by 1700 sailors to not starve so i just think it would be a good idea. ^^"
Thanks!

This will make a fine addition to my collection