Please and thank you for your understanding

Addendum: I will not be taking bug reports after 5.1 drops until I've patched it successfully, and for the sake of my sanity any bug reports or compatibility requests that aren't put in the appropriate forums will be ignored entirely.

@Whili In the future, if you have a compatibility request put it in the appropriate forum, but as far as I can tell that mod is already compatible with the UTCM.

@TsarTheSecond You're not annoying, but the facts of the matter are that the UTCM and associated mods are able to (pre-5.1) at the very least runs in an isolated state, ergo if something fundamental is broken for a user's game then it's on the user's side of the workshop.

A cool mod to add would be one for auto-building — it'd make endgame way easier when you're trying to expand resources or set up big infrastructure.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=vietnamese&id=3230961838

im sorry for annoying you... either the actual mod or the patch download corrupted when i got them, redownloading fixed the issue

Is it possible a collection is created to show all the mods you guys have developed and that go with this mod?

@TsarTheSecond the Support Robots and More 5.0 Patch is fully working on my end in both a vacuum (with just UTCM/SRAM5 Patch and their dependencies) and with a bunch of map-altering mods, so I can definitively state it's a mod you have that messes with the tree somehow.

sorry research is completely fine for me, just the land doctrine tree was having issues although i did find the cause, the support robot 5.0 either mod or patch is causing the issue

I believe this needs to be stated again: A fundamental issue such as the research screen not opening can only occur if you have a mod that conflicts with this mod, as in a vacuum with all of the dependencies of this mod and the patched mods, my tests show the game as able to run perfectly fine. There is either some overlooked mod that touches the tech tree or there's some other oddity out there.

i still have that land doctrine bug, have re downloaded and still see nothing but new crossroads

Hi! I was wondering if we could get a in-depth setup of of the mod combination itself? I've been having a difficult time setting up my playlist for the UTCM patch-set in an orderly fashion.

@Dr CouchBlankets

Welcome :3

@Zaros132090

No prob. :3

Added a picture of the new Doctrines tooltips. The full explanation of why it got changed: The tooltip got so long it went off the screen, and that made me feel like it was a mess.

I just checked it now, it looks absolutely great!

Sorry for troubling both of you with the constant updates, and thanks for making those changes very quickly.

Thank you both for all of your hard work.

@Zaros132090

From Zam, read below.

Update: Made the Tooltip look nicer and more clarified to compensate for the missing effect description which just got uglier and uglier the more units added

@Zaros132090

Nono, what I mean is that it is on purpose, I talked to Zam in dms.

If ya want, you can suggest that to be changed.

Weird. If you just updated the mod, I don't see it updated on my end. The last update is still shown as "May 2 @ 1:10pm", which is when you fixed the last issue. I don't know if the issue is on my end or yours.

@Zaros132090

Fixed I think

Thanks for the quick update. Looks like that bug is fixed, but now I noticed this new, somewhat related issue. Luckily, this one doesn't seem as bad, but I just thought you guys should know.

Going back to the 'Land Doctrine' screen from before, under all of the 'Perks', such as 'Infantry Perks' or 'Special Forces Perks', there seems to be a localization issue with all of them. When I click on any of the doctrines, such as 'New Routines' under the 'Infantry Perks' branch, it displays a bunch of broken localized lines under the 'Global stats'.

It displays as normal when you hover over it, but not when you click on it. It's weird because all other sections in the 'Land Doctrine' screen don't have this particular problem, just the 'Perks' section.

@Zaros132090

Fixed,

Zam accidentally left in some broken brackets while making UTCM a bit more friendly towards other tech mods and mods like ERX for the land doctrine tree.

@Zaros132090 Apparently it was two missing brackets, hotfix up. Lemme just wander over to this corner for a while...

First of all, great mod that helps add compatibility to all the tech submods. It is extremely useful and fixes a bunch of problems.

Secondly however, it seems that the most recent update to either this mod or the 'Tech Expansion Materials Expansion' mod has broken the OWB Doctrine system. In particular, when you go to Officer Corps and click 'Land Doctrine', almost the entirety of the 'Doctrine School' branch is missing.

I was running both mods yesterday with no issue. Then, the 'Tech Expansion Materials Expansion' mod and this mod get an update, and suddenly this issue appeared. I did not think this mod affected that section, but maybe something unexpected happened?

@Emperor Palpatussy yes, as I'm integrating it into the main mod in today's last update before 5.1 drops

EDIT: It has now been fully replaced with a load-order patch to ensure UTCM's changes take effect

Did you take down the Definition of insanity patch?

5/1/2025 Note: Major updates will be paused to prepare for when OWB 5.1 drops

@EldritchSheep You likely have another mod that changes the research tree in some way

not sure if its this mod or what, but clicking the research button doesnt bring up research. just auto closes the research tab

@jagerhunter00 PAR is an integral part of this mod due to how it's coded, however while most of PAR's content IS reliant on No Step Back, the DLC is not required due to how the NSB content is locked behind having a Tank Designer, and as such is able to work without that DLC.

you can, if you find separate patches for any of the mods you actually want to play with. for this mod, you must have it on.

Hey can i play without the power armor reworked mod

@Fentanyl

Read my mod descriptions next time.

@FoxySkies

mb twin turns out I just had the highways mod on which fucks it up

@Fentanyl

Hi, LAE guy, yeah that's already a thing.

make ts compatible with lore accurate enclave 💔🥀

@Draugar ECR is currently not in a "wholly compatible with OWB" state right now without various patches, try using one of those and if the issue continues please clarify in the Bug Reports forum.

@FoxySkies From now on, if an issue isn't in the Bug Reports forum feel free to write it off as a non-issue. I made the forum so issues wouldn't clog up the comments section, if people don't want to use it that's on them

@Emperor Palpatussy

:3

@Zam138

Can ya help @Draugar?

@Ass Blaster Master

Zam's working on it and love the pfp, lol.

now if only robot rework was here

I just zusted my zants

Okay, I found problem. East broke my researching... And NCR in serial >:C

Maybe I messed up somewhere, but the mod doesn't work properly. In the Research, there is only a stripped-down power armor that is not being studied, and the already studied power armor is not shown and is missing. UTCM is at the very bottom, I don't know what the problem might be.

@Herr Bzdün

There's your answer from Zam.

As far as UTCM is concerned, all mods that have compatibility patches are able to work with UTCM so long as the patches are loaded after UTCM.

@Ankolek⚠

:3

@Zam138

Mind helping out, @Herr Bzdün?

Will it work if I install everything? (I also mean mods requiring compatches)

nice

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@axavia123 post the issue in the Bug Reports Forum

@Zam138

Mind helping out Via?