If the CoA designer was less clunky Byzantine monograms would be a breeze to make with long pieces and wedges --- and now that CK3 allows for specific words in family names (like, say, Melissenos) to be associated with a specific symbol, it could be made so that Byzantine random dynasties would get the right monograms - but that seems like a monumental task beyond my capabilites. I'm just mocking things up in Photoshop.

The Bushidan of Iyo still still has Western style CoA. (1178 start)

@Willelmus those look NICE

@ Willelmus

Man, this is something I have been hoping to see for a long damn time in a bunch of different games and mods. Bravo for bringing it up (I never remember to mention it, I appreciate you doing so)

How are we feeling on Byzantine style symplemas and monograms? Like these
https://imgur.com/4KE2Nis

There's a mod that continues updating Cat's Coat of Arm Family & Title for 1.18, when used with this mod it appears to off-center the emblems for titles in Asia. It would be awesome if that could somehow be fixed. Cat's CoA and Patrum Scuta always worked beautifully together.

Some work done on fixing & merging random generation. Also fixed some of the designer previews (accidentally deleted some of the old files that were actually still needed for the mod)

Yuh Paradox got some niche banners for different cultures like could you do the same?

I’ve noticed the duchy-tier title banners for Japan being replaced with Western-style ones, but there might be others too. Was that intentional?

Thanks

I did not update the paradox workshop entry so I suppose you can find the 1.17 there

Support. Is the 1.17 version still available anywhere?

Is the 1.17 version still available anywhere?

I guess I'll just stick to the west this week. Really appreciate the update. Take your time!

Also word of advice : please don't activate the mod on an existing savegame (random generation will always get messed up jumping from vanilla to mod and vice versa).

This is true in any case but even more so with this update (really don't want to ruin anyone's savegame)

Well, I tried my best to get it done today (probably not a good idea in retrospect, just too much to fix). There's probably content issues to fix now with random generation, prescripted entries etc (kinda suspected there could be, hence the warning). Not much more I could do this evening anyway.

Sadly, I'm gonna have a very busy week with work so I'll see next week end what I can do.

It kinda does. All the unique CoAs in China are gone and the patterns on Celestial titles look a bit low.

This mod breaks everything in asia

It works, thank you very much. One question: is it still compatible with the Better CoA Designer mod?

Oh thank you! I started up a game yesterday and got reminded how terrible the vanilla CoAs were!

are previous versions of this mod available?

So fair bit of warning. This is a beta update. Do not use it if you're not willing to test things out.

It works as far as I can tell but some things are not implemented or barely touched (only three type of banners, designer untouched but kinda working). Absolutely nothing was tested in depth (so I'm interested in knowing how anything work)

I also did not touch any of the frames that would require editing culture in the end. So the dynastic frames as they are edited now will probably end up limited to this exact scope (unless I missed one). The colour scheme is the old one, no time for changing it right now.

If you like make a separate mod, one with the pre-1.18 shapes and another with the 1.18 shapes.

If you have no other option, I don't mind if the mod works without the new forms.

Really bad news. All those new frames are controlled by the main culture file only. Replacing them isn't enough : the coordinates are adjusted and scaled in the culture file (like it makes any sense at all to do that ffs).

So this means either modding each of those cultures and making the mod incompatible with pretty half the mods out there or just abandonning the frames (the later of which is not very acceptable to me tbh).

I love this mod dearly, it was the first mod I ever downloaded and while I don't have anything to suggest I just want to say that I am looking forward to seeing where this mod goes and want to encourage further development :)

It's not as easy as asking (I wish it was). I basically have to rebuild some key parts of the mod from scratch.

Even the philosophy of the mod is up for debate in some points : they made all those new dynastic frames, all following the same vanilla colour scheme which means keeping my own (colour-only gradients) for heraldry would not blend well with the rest of those now.

Modifying my frames to follow that colour scheme means adding that purple ribbon but on a much thinner frame (almost half). It looks weird to be honest and on top of that I'll never be able to make it look exactly the same to begin with. Maybe I'll make the tier 6 frame double to see if it's better but for now it's just not good enough.

@mel.diablo not yet

Version 1.18 ???

Thanks Solo

Thank you for the work and take your time on updating. Love this mod.

My programming knowledge is very basic, but this mod is essential for my CK3 games. If you'd like, I'm available to learn how to program mods and help you.

Some progress but I'll probably have to redo most if not all the interface part of the mod.

But, what a waste of an opportunity to make things look nice and coherent. Some of those new frames really look nice but work against everything else : now your iberian muslim dynasty has a star shaped coat of arms frame but the clan banner couldn't be any more different if you tried and the title itself uses a third different type as it is still a regular shield frame. Sadly, nothing works together.

One of the best mods!

Great love and support. I think Paradox's effort to add more diversity is great, but I do miss the mod when it comes to Europe. Also, please retain your change of the stupid trapezoid shape for clan titles. They are so bothering and I can barely continue the game with their existence.

Yeah, it's a grand challenge with all that non-European heraldry. Author, may God give you strength! It's impossible to return to vanilla and see all that nonsense like pagan Livonia long before the Order came, but already with the Teutonic black cross :)

Take your time Solo, do your thing. Patience is a virtue, we should ALL know that.

Never mind, i found it, I was temporarily dumb lol. Take your time @Solo, I love this mod and I'm curious what you'll do with the new eastern banner shapes

How do I upvote the mod? I didn't even know voting was a thing, I want to do my part

Damn people downvoting this mod because they want this mod to update faster? That's sad, no wonder why CK3 modders eventually quit and abandon their mods.

Take your time! Thank you alot for your hard work :)

Right, I'll have a look and see what the damage actually is over the week end (before that if I can but no hard promises here).

(Also downvoting the mod isnt gonna make things go faster)

@SalahadDin Could you stop spamming mod authors?!

Really looking forward to see what you'll do with the different CoA shapes now.

Awesome mod, excited for the update!

I love this mod so much. Could the you update it to version 1.8?

Please take your time author. Really curious to see how you'll deal with the updates PDX has done to dinasty CoAs. At the same time though, I feel like most of the new vanilla gov CoAs are fine.

update please

update pls

update please