If someone is doing a medieval locked game, I suggest lowering the Armour Penetration buff from +2 to +1.5. As it is, with VCR default numbers, middle tier normal quality sharp weapons (~45% armour pen) from Medieval Overhaul will negate most armours that aren't both high tier and high quality (normal steel kite shield (~40%) normal steel full plate (60%)).

A MO Masterwork Plasteel Full Plate has 120 sharp 58 blunt defence. So a Masterwork Plasteel longsword with 71% sharp pen dunk the full plate to 50% (50% immune 50% halved). A Masterwork Steel Two-Handed Hammer with 69% blunt pen drop it to 0% (100% damage taken). With he value nerfed to 1.5, the sword and the mace drop to ~52%, more reasonable. Persona/Possessed weapon are still anti-armour monsters.

With the lack of modern-sci-fi high end armour, the "nerf" feels better.

Hi donk, animal dont get buffed by VCR at all. they rarely can hurt colonist when using armor because capped at 100% armor pen.

Is there a way I can get balaclavas from VAE to be worn under flak or simple helmets?

Hey man do you have a Ko-fi or some kind of donation platform? You like. Deserve money for this godly mod

Here's hoping this mod is still getting updates! Probably my favorite combat mod.

Hello @Donk, are you going to update the mod to resolve the parry issue. I really don't want to play without this mod, should I wait some more or is this the final version?

@King try CE

Does anyone know how this mod pairs with Thick Armor - Continued , Vanilla Cover Reset 原版掩体效果重置 , or Rebound (Continued) ?

@Donk
I'm getting errors on load. Not sure how critical they are, but wanted to post to see what you think and if I've misconfigured something or if a fix is needed. The three are for gas mask, NVGs, and another set of goggles. I think this is related to the "Enable improved headgear layering" setting.

XML error: <hatRenderedFrontOfFace>true</hatRenderedFrontOfFace> doesn't correspond to any field in type ApparelProperties. Context: <apparel><parentTagDef>ApparelHead</parentTagDef><bodyPartGroups><li>Teeth</li><li>Eyes</li></bodyPartGroups><wornGraphicPath>Things/Headgear/GasMask/GasMask</wornGraphicPath><hatRenderedFrontOfFace>true</hatRenderedFrontOfFace><layers><li>EyeCover</li></layers><tags><li>IndustrialAdvanced</li><li>IndustrialMilitary</li></tags><defaultOutfitTags><li>Worker</li><li>Soldier</li></defaultOutfitTags></apparel>

There's more after this for each error related to the Unity Engine stacktrace, but it doesn't fit here. Thanks!

Although armor blocks direct damage, it cannot block burn damage from weapons like lasers. Is this normal?

pawns are still not good at fighting for me no matter what bad rng i guess im done with this game because theres too many variables that can happen where you look at your monitor and say "that makes no sense why is that happening; this wouldnt happen in real life"

Is it just me, or with this mod is easier to level up the shooting skill? like WAY easier, or maybe its something about 1.6 but my pawns reach level 20 at shooting in no time. Great mod anyways

as a note, this conflicts with Drafted Auto-Combat

I'm assuming beating pawns to death (instantly) with your bare hands is just a Vanilla thing?
I appreciate that this is toggle-able, hopefully I can just turn it off when the weapon mod I am trying is compatible with CE.

Loving the combat rework! Quick question: I've noticed melee pawns miss almost all their attacks against each other. Is this super low hit chance an intended feature of the mod?

the mod works wonderfully, but the armor value seems to be inverted when used alongside with Warcaskets in VFE Pirates lol. Can't have both I guess.

I'm using this as a way to fill the hole of CE not being updated and from what I'm seeing is that this mod makes combat trivial. I annihilate enemies so fast I actually struggle to get ANY prisoners. This is the first time I'm actually thinking of nerfing a Rimworld mod to make the game harder. Thank you for your work.

@chopped kris Thanks.

@Starempire42 ive used that mod alot with vcr, no problems there. although expect your capes and hoods to lose durability quickly in firefights as they get shot to ♥♥♥♥ along with the armor

@hellmagnus666 in my experience yeah you can drop it in a save

Safe for save adding?

Same with this one: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3346160287

Got a question does this mod work with yours? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3344566457&searchtext=layers

Do bullets start to pass through armor more with lowered armor HP?

Does the weapon armor penetration option only affect weapons, or does it also affect psycasts, abilities, prosthetic "unarmed" attacks, etc?

Hey, the mod page here mentions a new and improved readout page. Where is that? I feel like the weapon info screens still only show me default values. Even when everything is enabled, game restarted, etc etc.

@Starlight-Ellie used this mod with warcaskets all the time in 1.5 and it worked perfectly there, id imagine 1.6 is the same

Anyway, it would work with warcasket? because the warcaasket armors feels like you have almost nothing

Man, i tought i has this activated, and i don't even have it installed since i erased some of my mods XD

i turned off flanking calcs and things have mostly been fine with me... recon armor and above still breaks arrows in half and my soldiers fitted out in legendary cataphracts mostly only have to worry about repairing their armor after fights unless some joker brings a charge lance

@Donk is it just the parry we should worry about atm? Armor and other options work just fine?

Something funky is happening with the parry system, still digging on why

I use this for the first time because CE was offline due to the 1.6 update.
I thought it works well, until just now I saw a bear and a tortoise fight against each other for over a day and both are unharmed. Then I reminded of my 17 shooting pawn having a so-called 89% accuracy on the target but lost literally 80%.
all I did is just checking all options and changing no values in settings. Something wrong?

Yeah armor is not working right now, a shortbow just went through Vanilla Expanded Siegebreaker armor's torso lol.

Thanks chopped kris!

@GetUrAssToMars ive been playing on a save with this mod enabled for like 50-60 hours and i can say that the armor calc works alright unless it comes to laser weapons, which are completely broken and have no armor pen for some reason. you also need to disable ranged and melee flanking for things to work fine aswell

So armor calc isn't working right since 1.6?

when Vanilla Combat Reloaded before Animal Apparel: Framework,the red log donot occur.sorry bother you

when pawn (people or animal) melee ,they always occur red log,DamageWorker_Stab.ChooseHitPart
at Verse.DamageWorker_Stab.ChooseHitPart (Verse.DamageInfo dinfo, Verse.Pawn pawn)
Transpiler VCR.MeleeFlankingTranspiler
DamageInfo Instigator is null
this place maybe have some bad thing ,the red log i send your steam discussions
my english very poor thank your mod ：,hope fix

the way this mod calculates armor is so weird I found a normal bearskin duster that had more armor than my good cataphract armor

Does this work for Odyssey unique weapons? I read that they have their own damage worker. Yayo's Combat has a patch for it.

This isn't just my favorite combat mod, it is "THE" combat mod for me. Ngl it is the only mod I've been checking daily to see if current issues are resolved. Hope you are having a nice day, Donk!

@Revlis grievous wound

It seems to produce an error with Animal Apparel: Framework

https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/1f2c6e30498e8321c5ed3a8aac57e228

@Revlis DocsPawnOverhaul is my go to, it's not updated but it's just xml and works fine in 1.6

@Revlis I use Just a Flesh Wound and increase the rate of bleeding

What would be an optimal value to not upset vanilla balance in armor too much while making armor still matter? I am aiming for 75%-90% damage reduction if armor stops sharp damage fully as realistically blunt damage would still go through any armor.

any suggestions on companion mods to use with this? it's great that my pawns can hit but having a tribal in a kilt take 20 odd rifle shots to the torso and still get in range to club me is kinda annoying

Thank you for your hard work @Donk. This mod is excellent.

Can confirm that the armor calculations are a liiittle borked atm