I am genuinely into Myers-Briggs, and this mod is a bright ray to my in-game especially with EchoColony mod! Thank you so much!
I see a lot of reasonable comments about MBTI, but we shouldn't forget the fact that Myers-Briggs is based on Jung's theories. (I'm not saying his theory is flawless, I'm saying he has an authority in term of psychology.) There is a lot of meaningful psychological researches that are also based on Myers-Briggs by divers organizations. I truly understand that dividing our personalities in 16 types could sound ridiculous, but those 16 types are just a number. It also contains systematic explanations of how it can change organically depending on each situation and mental status. The number of 16 is not the matter. They are just major category like how we divide human races for example.

It would be cool to see something similar to this but for the OCEAN model

Annual reminder:

Psychometric tests (and other research tools) are evaluated on validity and reliability. 16P scores high in first and low in second. Enneagram scores low in either. Serious research demands both high, so neither test is good enough to be called "scientific", but one even less than another.

Hey, just FYI, MBTI has no more scientific foundation than enneagrams. They're astrological signs for business majors.

oxycodone ENTP 8 isn't a thing. you're likely just 7w8 with a strong wing. they were actually really spot on with these personality correlations, don't ruin it

okay, neat.

Now, truly just curious, what is thatspring-like thing in that picture?
no idea why, but that's the main question i have at the moment, lol...

Any chance this receives an update? Thanks!

For enneagram 8 instead of two ENTJs, there should also be an ENTP option (I am an ENTP 8 wing 7). I would see it like this (base mod -> 16personalities code):
8 Challenger -> ESTP
8 Protector -> ENTJ
8 Nonconformist -> ENTP
8 Diplomat -> ESTJ

I thought the 16 types was considered pretty outdated now. But I guess an MMPI mod wouldn't be very interesting

hey can u make it so we can have both mbti and ennea together :(

I recommend (or for me personally would be more interesting) to have some mode be based in more statistically signficant tests (and more scientifically accurate) like Big 5 or 16PF Questionnaire (last on is good if you want to enter in more detail (not to be mixed with the one of this mod)). Enneagram and 16 Personalities are not much better than horoscopes. Still much appreciated the effort you put in these mods :D.

Sure, but it wasn't used anyway.

Just like a snail is "bigger" than bacteria, while still not "big", one of these tests is "more scientific".

"scientific" ... all personality tests are bs, human beings are more complex than "there are 16 kinds of people," if you want the science there are many papers studying the damaging effects of personality test on people who believe them... lets not use the term scientific

Sorry

" The change is only cosmetic. New behaviours will come with Module 3, pulled directly from ones made for Enneagram. If the study is accurate and the types correspond well, personalities, descriptions and behaviours will still fit."

Did this only renaming labels without making any gameplay changes?

@R'luhhor

Is it Compatible with the psychology mod?

Man, if the author finishes the main mod, it would be amazing for them to update this one too.

Any hope for the Big Five Aspects Scale in the future?

Fixed, thanks.

In game I noticed a typo where ENFP only shows up as NFP.

Psychometric tests (and other research tools) are evaluated on validity and reliability. 16P scores high in first and low in second. Enneagram scores low in either. Serious research demands both high, so neither test is good enough to be called "scientific", but one even less than another.

16P has a documented history of studies, starting from no other but Jung, through Myers-Briggs to Center for Application of Psychological Type and independents. They have a proper bibliography, so you can track it and review by yourself if authors and institutions that publish them are reputable.

Enneagram started in spiritualism, the literal opposite of science. Different enneagram centers present mostly views from person/people who manage them. Bibliography, if present, contains mostly books and articles written by said person, rarely studies.

TLDR: If it was a scientific race, neither of those is in good physical condition, but 16P at least has shoes on.

@Arswind
Sorry for late reply, I had a lot on my plate lately. I keep only top 4 16P types per Enneagram type to manage them easily. ENTP is 5th in type 3, so originaly it didn't make it by mere 1% of the difference. But by coincidence I made a mistake putting ESFP there and since I already had to correct it, I allowed usage of 5th place instead of 4th. It won't make its way into type 8 though.

@Cutiegorgon
You're not a party pooper ^^' Ialready said it here, but maybe I should move it also to mod description:

Okay I am gonna be the fun killer here but please DO NOT rely on Myers-Briggs test to know yourself better. Official psychology regards this test as pseudoscience as it lacks convincing validity data and offers easily explaination for a thing as complicated as your brain. Please stick to real psychology

please add entp to type 3 & 8

Thank you for this! I love your mod, but could never make sense of the Enneagram. The Meyers & Briggs' personality types you used here are so much easier to understand.

its okay we can brush our teeth next year

Oh wow, maybe they are the same person, then.

@Hahkethomemah My psychiatrist thinks I shouldn't use amphetamines anymore.

@Proner
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@Setvin
I don't know what yours thinks, but mine says you'll be fine if you read also description for 1-2-3 Personalities, which this mod patches.

@Atmey
Powers are from Vanilla Factions Expanded - Ancients.

Worldview tab is used by Personalities M3 to store information about pawn's views on important topics and social circles. 1-2-3 Politics will also put the political views there. It can be activated even in Personalities M1 to move there personality description from Bio.

What are powers and worldview tabs? Rimworld of Magic had magic and might.

I read the whole thing but I still dont know what this mod does. Should I ask my psychiatrist?

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no

@Prester
Yeah, they can hit right in the feels ;) If you're diagnosed correctly, their advice for your type can be a useful tool to change some things.

@Ross
Glad to hear that! Next week-two I'll drop the outline for 1-2-3 Politics if you're interested. 1-2-3 Religions need a thorough redesign though, now that we have Ideology.

I haven't tried your 1-2-3 mods yet, but I'm loving the work and watching closely to see what the whole package looks like. Genuinely fantastic so far though from what I can tell. Gives me hope my RimWorld pawns may one day be neurodevelopmentally / neuropsychologically real enough for me to second guess my war crimes before shrugging and carrying on.

wow, just wow.

i got curious by your "16 Personalities" and googled them, found a site, made a selftest and read the result, and it was so accurate that i actually had fucking tears running down my eyes. from reading a summary. what the hell man

@Wololo
Ach, fellow INFP. Stay strong!

@Enthusiast
I agree to a degree. Psychometric tests (and other research tools) are evaluated on validity and reliability. 16P scores high in first and low in second. Enneagram scores low in either. Serious research demands both high, so neither test is good enough to be called "scientific", but one even less than another.

16P has a documented history of studies, starting from no other but Jung, through Myers-Briggs to Center for Application of Psychological Type and independents. They have a proper bibliography, so you can track it and review by yourself if authors and institutions that publish them are reputable.

Enneagram started in spiritualism, the literal opposite of science. Different enneagram centers present mostly views from person/people who manage them. Bibliography, if present, contains mostly books and articles written by said person, rarely studies.

TLDR: If it was a scientific race, neither of those is in good physical condition, but 16P at least has shoes on.

Interesting mod, but this is just a different type of pseudoscientific classification of personality types. I think I'll stick with the pseudoscience I'm used to. "actual studies" is something that the inventors of each test claim, and they're both wrong.
Good job on the mod though, I'm sure people will enjoy it!

Cool! Now the unfit INFP that I am will be able to witness the death of the other INFP in game! the world is really unfair to us.

Great addon! And nice description. Now I understand why I prefer the Enneagram system for the game
Love the rarity of the types though.