@CTM BOTTOM TEXT You should probably lower the max allowed to spawn value in the settings

it was fun until the only animal on the map were rats

I love this mod and always have it installed, it adds such interesting animal behaviour and challenges with storage.

I was wondering if it would be possible to add a 'food' category of trash for compatibility with Ferny's trash/waste mod? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3263035126&searchtext=trash

This would be like raccoons, bears, and other scavengers being attracted to trash being left out and encourage proper waste disposal.

Thank you for your consideration and your hard work!

This and cats hunt for fun adds more to the game.

Thanks mile.

I may or may not have over 100 rats running around my colony lmao

@TheAmericanSwashbuckler My guess would be yes. I think there is a general limit on the amount of wild animals in a map

If you get a colony fileld with rats this way, does it disable spawning other wild animals? Im a bit behind on my rat catching and the colony is full of them and I dont seem to get any other wild animals because of it

Infinite food glitch mod

Cool <3

@gRaveyard Fixed

Needs to load *after* Vanilla Achievements Expanded.

@Daevinski There has been no changes that could explain it so I suggest you try with only this mod loaded to rule out a mod-conflict

I noticed that corpses of rats spawned by this mod are not getting frozen anymore. I wonder if it's because I'm using Vanilla Temperature Expanded, or if something changed in 1.5 related to rats.

Any idea?

Awesome. Thanks for the info. And the respect biomes wasn't turned on. So that answers that. Again, Me and my wife really appreciate all your hard work.

@The Bard of Hearts In my tests, waste-rats only spawned in polluted biomes. Unless the respect biome-option was turned off.
The limits defined by the mod only affects the spawning by the mod.

I also have a small question about the functionality of some options. If I set a spawn limit on the map for the rats, does that prevent the "natural" spawning of creatures to go beyond that limit? Say if I added raccoons to the list of spawnables but set a limit to 10. Would raccoons and rats only ever spawn (even naturally) to a sum of 10? or does that limit not account for natural spawnings?

so... two questions, I guess.

Either way. Thanks for the mod work, Mlie, you are certainly a lord of the community at this point.

Not that its a big deal, in my opinion; but I thought I'd let you know that Waste Rats seem to be spawning in areas with no pollution whatsoever. Is this normal for this mod?

@BingoBungus Yes, they are normal rats. Unless you set the scaria-probability to max ofc.

Can you also eat the rats though?

I did and at the time the only reported issue was the pawn issue on save. It looks like there's some XML Extensions bugs so I'll submit my log with the VE team thru their google doc. Thanks Mlie, for the help and the great mods. :)

@L. Velociraptor Did you check the VAE page? They seem to be having issues with the 1.5 release.

@Mlie -- That was my bad, pasted the wrong log.

Here's the correct log with only Better Log, Harmony, Vanilla Achievements Expanded, and Rats! enabled.

https://0x0.st/XKb-.log

@Nim Should be fixed now

@L. Velociraptor There are a lot of issues in that log. Can you post a log where the issue happens with only this mod and the mod you suspect is causing an issue?

It looks like Wasterats can still spawn on tiles that aren't polluted. Normally I think they're only supposed to spawn on tiles that are 40% + polluted.

@Chris_ No idea, it has some map-component but shouldnt affect jobs.

why does removing this mod from my save prevent colonists from getting new jobs? All this does is spawning more rats, isn't it?

@Anduin1357 Should be added now

An option to make the animals spawn with 0% food need?

There's yet another messed-up playthrough right here. Cheers.

@WindUpHero7 Added a setting to define if the spawning animals should be sterile, hope it helps!

YOOO IT CAN BE SET TO SPAWN COCKROACHES? LETS GO!

Combined with wild animal breeding, my map's rat population has boomed uncontrollably. Any way to stop rats spawned from this mod from breeding?

@Harkmagic Should be added now

Do you think you could add an option so that certain animals will only spawn next to corpses and not food that is going rotten? This is a really cool mod and adding flexibility only makes it even cooler.

@mlie Awesome, thank you. I used this and another mod to crank up their hunger rates when it came time to end a medieval playthrough. The rats devoured everything and everyone.

Free food in desert biome. Nice.

@Lokiamis Actually they never spawned with low hunger, as they spawned with a forced eating job of the thing that spawned them. But as dessicated corpses cannot be eaten without mods, they just wandered away.
Now they should spawn hungry either way.

It looks like the rats always spawn with full hunger meters if they appear on dessicated corpses. They should still be hungry imo.

I feed the corpses to my turtles since they’re also listed as omnivorous grazers in their diets (I plan to at least I haven’t found a turtle yet)

I just realized I've been using a lot of your mods for a while now. I never realized they were all made by the same person! Thank you, they're all awesome, and so are you.

finally my south park playthrough will be complete when kenny dies and the rats come

I'm SO excited to use this and your cats hunt for fun mod together, like genuinely so excited

Good to see it fixed, thanks for your contributions, guys.

@Mlie The Godlike, Thanks you :D

@PaZakwan Found the issue, tried to fetch the biome info to early after game-loading. Should be fixed now, thanks for the detailed report!

@Mlie, first of all thanks for take your time to take a look at this.

Steps to reproduce:
1. New game with Lost Tribe scenario.
2. Have rats in the map.
3. Save the game.
4. Load the game and the error show up.

https://gist.github.com/88325b8ae44ee3f09a0f6c93d272ef1a
Line 531

I donw know if this make the diference, options in Rats Menu:
Respect Biome definitions: True.
Rats: Rat (Core), AA_DuskRat (Alpha Animals) and SyntheticRat (Synthetic Animals)

@PaZakwan Can you replicate this with a new game in any way? Its tricky to figure out otherwise

Hi, error log when load a save game:
Could not instantiate a MapComponent of type Rats.RatTracker: System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object

https://gist.github.com/b7dfdad3a79d3a5791448352b2a907c7
line 391

Thanks in advance for your time.

@Macropod Yes