Won my first season as arsenal with this, one game lost away to liverpool. Doesn't work as well the second season

doesn't beat Bielsa Ball

sexpanther, set out of possession defensive line to deep to stop running in behind with long balls ... only need to do this where teams have fast forwards, like Vardy at Leicester where they look for long balls in behind

Does anyone else have an issue with this strategy where the defense completely breaks down every time the opponent completes a deep pass? They're averaging like 5-6 open shots on my goal per game because my defense is just wide open. I can't figure out what the issue is or how to correct it.

Working on 21.7. Is a amazing attacking football, playing Chelsea with messi

This still working on 21.4?

If I wanted to change my (CD) to Central Defender role, which duty should I put him in?

@Chris Breezy

You can try my new 4-3-3 tactic that I'm having success with at the moment. Will update with more screenshots once I find the time to finish the season. So far the tactic has won every game I've played including a 3-2 win over Leicester. Currently sitting top of the Championship 10 games in.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2558700050

Helo this tactic Works on 21.4 version ?

Right now, it has actually worked surprisingly well. Admittedly is only during the first season but will be interesting to see how it goes in the future. I have used all the original roles that you have used from the beginning, have not changed anything in the tactics, so far.

@TheFuckingIgelkott

Personally I've not played in the Swedish league. But I have a save with an English team that were in the lowest English starting league and I used this tactic to take them to the Premier League. I got back to back promotions by signing a new starting 11 every season and selling players for profit to increase my salary cap. One thing tho, in the lower leagues players are not capable of playing a (CD) Ball Playing Defender role for example so you will need to change that to Central Defender. Also the (LW) & (RW) positions might be hard to find an Inverted Winger/Inside Forward at that level and will probably have to change that to Winger role instead. Also the (MC) position might need to be changed from Advanced Playmaker to Ball Winning Midfielder. Every other position should be easy enough to find players to fill the roles.

Will this work with low ranked teams in sweden or is it only best with good teams like Real madrid or Juventus

@SE7EN Yh tried it and it worked just fine.

@Kev

Oh, yes it will work mate. I usually go for inverted winger 1st, inside forward 2nd, winger 3rd.

@SE7EN What i mean is on the FM20 tactic version the right wing role is a Winger where as on FM21 it's Inverted Winger, so what i was asking do you think if i change the winger role to inverted winger on the FM20 tactic do you think it'll work?

@Kev

Yes I uploaded this tactic for FM20 when it was first released. Just go to the tactic workshop menu and it's number 1 most downloaded for FM20 also.

Do you think this would work on FM20? I own FM21 but can't really play it as my laptop isn't the best in the world and processing through the days takes sometime where as on FM20 it's a lot quicker.

@TacticalMax

If you like you can inbox me some screenshots and then i'll be able to tell you exactly what's wrong. From what you said, it sounds like a confidence issue.

If you get a bad result and react negatively in the team talk after the match the players confidence will drop. If you have a run of bad results and keep reacting negatively then yes things will happen like you said. I've also had the same issue as you but it's easy to get out of. If you lose against and team you really should be winning against then yes react negatively. But if it's a bigger team than you with better players just say they are unlucky or they gave it their best effort.

Please also read my tips above in the tactic description as they might help,

hi, thank you for making this tactic, but I am facing some problems now. This tactic worked perfect for my first season, but it kind started to perform worse in my second season. My expected goal is high throughout the entire match and my team has more shots than my opponents, I just cannot score. I also get more long pass or short pass that will penetrate my defense line than the first season, maybe is because the offside trap? I never changed any role or instruction so do you suggest any way to improve the performance? I am not playing the english version so words might differ, anyway thank you for making this fun and strong tactic!

@eul - the tactic works best with an advanced forward or complete forward

@chapel.xavier - i guess you are talking about my man utd save? look at the date on the top right hand corner, the screen shot was taken at the start of the second season.. i had 4 transfer windows to buy and sell players to get this team set up.. it's very easy to build a good team if you know how.. for example a player costs 20 million.. you can offer just 7 million upfront, and then 13 million over 12 months, this will only take around 7-8 million out of your transfer budget.. meaning you can buy more players with a smaller budget. also if your board gives you 100% money back of all the players you sell.. you can potentially bring in a whole new team if the players you are selling are valuable

how did you manage to have this team in the first season? because with this team all tactics work right?

Can I change my Striker from Advanced Forward to Poacher?

@_WhistleBlower

Haha cheers mate. I've done similar things to make the game more challenging. Only being able to sign players that nationality is within the UK was a fun save. Only being able to sign players on free transfers was also another good one.

@roddyart1st

Just as much as any other tactic. I rotate players in if a player is becoming tired. If you check your inbox you will receive an in-game email regarding this. It will tell you on match day how many minutes a player is recommended to start or not, how many minutes you should sub them off at, etc.

@maxanthonycutter

I've never tested that as the whole point was to make it an attacking tactic. Most likely it wouldn't work as the AMC is often the player with the most assists I find each season. If you want the tactic to be more defensive you can change the two center midfielders to a Ball Winning Midfielder (defensive) and Deep Lying Playmaker (defensive).

would this work with 1) a poacher as striker and 2) with a defensive midfielder instead of an attacking midfielder

dont your players get injured with such hugh intensity?

I dont usually write comments on these tactics. But I have to comment on this one. I have 1000+ hours on all the past years fm games, and still going strong on fm21, I ALWAYS pick one single team every year a new fm comes out, i stick to that one save only, i never re-start. But i used this tactic for 15+ seasons with chelsea and i decided to actually restart on a new save with a NEW tactic, because this tactic is sooo good it makes the game to easy xD Haha gj man, you broke the game

@Everyone

At the end of the season I've checked the stats and I've got around a 70-80% win ratio depending on what team I manage. Please note I am very adapt in the transfer market, most saves I sign at least 5-10 new players that completely change the look of the team. I also pretty much always sack my entire backroom team and bring in new staff that are way better quality.

At the end of the day you need to find a tactic that plays in the style of football that you like. This tactic is very inspired by the Ferguson era of all out attack, Klopp's high press and Guardiola's tika taka. Personally I'd rather go all out and attack then park the bus and lose. If your into that style then give it a go. The chance it will work for you as it has done for me and so many others is still very high. But is this tactic invincible? No it's not and I'm glad that's it not. The highs and the lows of the game is what makes the game fun and challenging.

@Everyone

I rarely play FM at the moment and so don't have much interest in updating the tactic. Whilst the tactic is not as strong as it was for the first 6 months of release, I have tested it on multiple saves in the last two month's and it still works very well.

I've tested around 30 tactic in total in this years FM and my honest opinion is that it's still the best. The tactic is super high pressing and attacking, so be warned if your up against a team that has better players than yours, and they are currently in form, there's a big chance you will concede goals on the oppositions counter attack. There is also the yellow card issue as players are instructed to dive in both on the tactic and at each individual position.

@SE7EN any sign of an update? Its still pretty inconsistent

i get fucked on the counter every game. any tips?

This system has very poor effects on my wingers. They are severely under performing. Rashford is my inside forward on the left and Kulusevski is my inverted winger on the right. Am I doing something wrong?
Both guys are playing absolutely shit, because I love Rashford I'm gonna give him another season to prove himself because he was playing striker for me before I tried this tactic out, but Kulusevski can cut he's rubbish!

Still working?

Great tactic and great tips. Superb stuff mate!

This tactic is amazing and the "discription" is even better :) Alot of great tips

@Noobers

I use the TCS '21 v1.1 skin from FMScout and it says in the player description if he's a striker or a winger. Strikers Ill set them as IF if they can play on the wing, Marcus Rashford for example. Wingers I'll set to IW, Jadon Sancho for example. Yeah player stats and traits have a huge impact. Simply select the position inside a players tan and the skin will highlight what stats are important to a player who plays there. Then you can go to your scouting tab and search for players with those stats. Obviously you will need to fully scout them. Off the top of my head.. flair, pace, acceleration, technical, agility, finishing, composure, crossing are essential stats for wingers.

Amazing tactic. Mixed results when I first started using it at tail-end of first season, but after a full pre-season and more tactical familiarity, I've won my first 14 consecutive games in the second season (playing as Spurs and had a good summer transfer window which also helped!).

@SE7EN,

Thanks for the suggestions! Meaning by using IF a player should have a good finishing? How about IW? Having a good finishing for both IW/IF contribute great success for your tactic?

Because I used your tactic for quite sometime, currently using BVB and Haaland contribute huge amount of goals, but not from IW/IF though, considering I bought players that have finishing of 14 and above. But if I used Liverpool, Salah have the highest no of goals though but not for Mane haha.

Do you reckon player traits do play a major role in this situation? any specific of traits that we need to look for IW/IF player? Thanks!

@FR Alex010 & eggleton303

If you have started a new save with a team with high reputation and your manager reputation is low, to begin with don't slam your team in team talks if you dont get the result you expect. I wrote about this in the notes above ^^ This is a common mistake many people make, morale is everything in this years FM and if its low then you will go on a shit streak of results even if your tactic and players are quality.

3) Go to your dynamics tab and look at your managerial support. If your “Managerial Support” is in the red it means currently the players don't trust you. Don't be harsh on them during team talks whilst in the red else they will quickly lose faith in you and morale will drop fast.

@Noobers

Personally I prefer IW. If the player I'm playing in that position is more of Striker than a Winger, I'll change it to IF. I've had better results with IW tho I reckon, try to find fast wingers, with high technical ability that are good at crossing. The left IW needs to be right footed, or able to use both feet even better. The right IW needs to be left footed and able tor use both feet even better.

I am struggling keep drawing or losing with this tactic

bro it do not work i play whit leicester after 11 games i got 15 points

Hi @SE7EN,

I had enjoyed success using your tactic. Just wondering that you mentioned LW/RW can be changed from IW to IF. Do you have any preferences? Which one works better or both also good? Thanks!

Just got my fourtht title on the row and first CL win with Fulham.

I only woried about the fitness levels of stamina, any ideas??

Hello she works with last ME ?

@MFK_DK

are you using a MacBook Pro by any chance? if so that's why it aint working.

@橋本 環奈 fan acct

I've been playing recently and the original Deep Lying Playmaker on the left side and Advanced Playmaker on the right side of the central midfield works better imo.

hello se7en. for the current patch, do you use the default setup or the one you suggested with DLP and BBM in the comments? thanks.

no tactics i download shows up so i dont know what is wrong

thanks for reply the tactic is in my tactics folder and when im in the game and checks downloads its also there but its not there when i try to load it
so i dont know what more to do

@MFK_DK

Try unsubscribe and resubscribe, sometimes Steam plays up.

I just checked the alternative download link and it works fine. Just click the blue download button. You need to manually place the downloaded file in documents > sports interactive > fm21 > tactics

i dosent show up when i subscribe and i cant seem to get it to work with the download link could anyone please help me?

This tactic is brilliant! Consecutive promotions with C/C club, currently second in serie A. The yellow cards give a lot of suspensions, but worth it.