Black Mesa

Black Mesa

The (Extra) Definitive On A Rail (Loop Mod + On a Rail Uncut + BMCE)
159 Comments
_ Aug 28 @ 4:27am 
My god was this a masterpiece. It just elevates the Black Mesa earthbound experience to the whole new level. I can't even think why CC decided to ruin this chapter. The chapter is so long I felt sad upon having to leave the tram for the final time that'd been with me since Power up
WinterTheBeau Jul 7 @ 9:04pm 
yo guys, are you gonna fix the level design issue or not
Crayon eater 99 Jun 25 @ 4:41pm 
U DID NOT HAVE TO REMOVE THE GUARD BRO!
WinterTheBeau Jun 6 @ 7:37pm 
i encountered a pretty gamebreaking level design issue near the end of this mod's on a rail. it seems the last map does not line up properly with the previous map, and the train tries to do an impossible 160 degree turn due to the track going in the wrong direction. i have screenshots
Zelly_9191 Feb 24 @ 8:57am 
If you are having guard death crashes or "A.I Disabled" issues check my discussion thread for fixes.
DaReal's Delivery Service Feb 14 @ 1:02am 
im getting a problem where the ai disables its self, anyone know how to fix?
Crau Jan 14 @ 8:39pm 
Is there a reason why this mod's file size is lower than the other variations of this despite having the most content? This mod's file size is 695 MB, while the original OaR uncut by DIGITAL SPORTS is at 735 MB. And not to mention that Salimuyne compiled OaR uncut + Loop mod as another workshop entry, and it easily shot past 818 MB.
The Microwave Engineer May 11, 2024 @ 11:38am 
I had the same Issue with Dark Interval recently, When I saved the Two Guards, I've faced Two remaining Marines and for some Unknown reason, If I killed one of the Marines, The Two guards vanish. It's a small Issue I suppose but I think one or at least something in the Code counts how many Marines remain to remove the Security NPCs (Assuming they have died.)
M0URN1NG5TAR Apr 16, 2024 @ 8:13pm 
Okay, I give up on trying to fix this myself. I just don't get it. Any time I re-load any part of this level, the AI always disables itself - even though they're just fine transitioning to On a Rail. I'm sure it's this mod too because I removed only it and the AI were fine. Anybody have any ideas? Because quite frankly it's driving me mad.
Wyatt Timeline Enjoyer Mar 5, 2024 @ 3:27pm 
are the security guards supposed to vanish after the shootout
tuesday Feb 13, 2024 @ 3:31am 
which vpk file do i move from the folder to custom? there's like 5 different files and idk which one
FearOn739 Feb 3, 2024 @ 12:18pm 
There's a a black texture of the wall on the left at the begnning of c2a2d, after the first turn and there's a flying box next to stairs at the railroad booth when you change tracks at c2a2b
YoBoiKapi Jan 26, 2024 @ 6:30pm 
got a glitch where tram disappeared right below my feet when loading into a new map, happens every time.
Pungabot Jan 7, 2024 @ 8:10pm 
Idk what happened but I had a playthrough of this mod with zero bugs it's a miracle
Jessie Jan 6, 2024 @ 3:52pm 
Will you guys ever fix the missing ragdoll errors
BJDERV Dec 28, 2023 @ 3:41pm 
does this work in the current time because it doesn't show up in the Brows portion for the Steam Workshop tab
Commander Ice Sep 24, 2023 @ 3:29pm 
@TCMOREIRA No, I don't think so...
TCMOREIRA Sep 23, 2023 @ 5:12pm 
Does this includes the "Fixed Softlocks for The Definitive On a Rail" mod?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2970901498&searchtext=On+a+rail+lock
Commander Ice Sep 9, 2023 @ 10:04am 
I got a glitch with the wall texture. I also put it in my custom folder if that will fix it but no.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3033240682
scarfee Jul 17, 2023 @ 11:53am 
its just the vanilla black mesa on a rail
scarfee Jul 17, 2023 @ 10:19am 
its not working
Plague Jun 26, 2023 @ 7:45pm 
is there a version that makes this compatible with the black mesa classic on a rail maps?
Master Ballcock Jan 6, 2023 @ 6:51pm 
Why does this add the first BMSC Apprehension map?
ЭндрюГОр Dec 28, 2022 @ 3:22am 
use bm blue shift content for update this addon add chinook helicopter and more trains
BasedBun Dec 9, 2022 @ 6:57pm 
False alarm, turns out it WAS a mod conflict just like I mentioned, this mod worked flawlessly after I solved the problem, 10/10 again!
BasedBun Dec 4, 2022 @ 12:56am 
Game starts to lag HORRIBLY on the missile elevator shaft part (where you have to close the elevator doors so it lets you push the button) after pushing the missile button it fixes itself though, not sure if its a mod conflict or not, but this is the only part where it lags like that for NO reason, so it leads me to believe that its probably this mod, it would be wonderful if you could look into it!
classic gamer Nov 12, 2022 @ 2:33pm 
NO
HermitGeek Nov 12, 2022 @ 10:26am 
dose this reqier the 1.5 loop mod
classic gamer Sep 4, 2022 @ 10:52pm 
I put rain instead of rail LOL.:)
ANDRIJA I ANĐELKA Aug 22, 2022 @ 6:53am 
can you make that when marines die in a guard vs hecu fight, the guards dont dissapear but instead ragdoll?
classic gamer Aug 8, 2022 @ 9:58pm 
I got one little nit pick that i hope you can fix. The stair case with the trip-mines is horribly designed in comparison to original. In the original, the stair case was lit up drawing you re attention to it. The crates in front of stair case where set up to have a gap revealing a bloody hand print from a marines corpse on the other side of crates. This further draws the players attention to the staircase. If you where to redesign this area to be like the original and put a flickering light to draw players attention to staircase this would improve this section.
Blobby Blob Aug 7, 2022 @ 2:28am 
i have a weird physics bug where all physics objects are bouncing and ragdolls noclip through the ground
classic gamer Jul 27, 2022 @ 3:54pm 
I like the original on a rain horror tone.
classic gamer Jul 27, 2022 @ 3:51pm 
I agre.:)
Zoltan Jul 8, 2022 @ 7:32am 
it would be so cool to have the blue lighting and fog from BMS classic here
The One Freeman Jun 13, 2022 @ 9:22pm 
Ah...blessing update, though!
각그랜저 May 31, 2022 @ 8:02am 
I like Oar uncut. But have you ever seen a revamp of the vanilla version? I like everything else, but many of them are too poor in detail and quality compared to the final version of the other chapters. Many of them are still early-accessed, and I wish I could just add a retail version, let alone textures and errors.
*****.exe Apr 22, 2022 @ 2:41am 
i have strange feeling that this version of OaR uncut and loop mod have less bugs, atleast its my opinion
sethylprednisolone Mar 24, 2022 @ 7:51am 
Have you ever thought of doing a BMCE overhaul of just the vanilla On a Rail chapter? I love a lot of the parts in OaR Uncut (mainly the area with the cargo crane, the dark HECU ambush, and like half of the outdoor sniper battle), but a considerable amount of it is noticeably low-quality compared to the maps in the final product. Not to mention the annoying amount of texture and scripting errors. I just think it'd be really cool to have the option to play the condensed retail version with the addition of the extra character models.
Gordon Freeman Mar 7, 2022 @ 5:03am 
There seems to be a missing model underneath a random piece of foliage. Didn't manage to get the best screenshot of it, but there is indeed an "ERROR SUCCESS" under it. https://imgur.com/a/SpEeJ5m
Gordon Freeman Mar 6, 2022 @ 4:26pm 
The marine with the rocket launcher can destroy your tram's engine. Initially, I was relieved, since I finally had a reason to ditch the tram and experience the chapter in a new light. Though, I didn't consider that this means you can no longer get past the train-only doors, which means you are effectively softlocked. It would probably be a good idea to make the tram entity invulnerable to avoid future softlocks. Another solution is to remove the train-only doors entirely, allowing for you to progress without the godawful HL1 tram.
Lieutenant_America Feb 27, 2022 @ 8:35am 
Whenever transitioning from the end of OaR to Apprehension the game just stops. It doesn't crash but it kicks back to the menu and I have to load Apprehension directly to proceed.

I have BMSC installed for Apprehension, but I wouldn't think that'd cause an issue since OaR itself now comes with Map A of BMSC's Apprehension.
Deftinwolf Feb 5, 2022 @ 4:55am 
Anyone know if the softlock with the tram some users are experiencing is a result of this mod or something to do with Black Mesa itself? I saw reference to softlock in OAR as a "known issue" on a developer update from CC in 2020, but it didn't say any details of what the softlock is.

How bad is this issue? Has it been fixed since the comments from last year mentioning it? (I checked the change log, but didn't see anything). Really want to add this to my mods as I have all the other chapter overhauls for my new playthrough, but worried about getting stuck...

(and thank you Citizen for all your effort making this game even better! You rock.)
Citizen⁵  [author] Jan 3, 2022 @ 11:11pm 
You only need to subscribe to this
yaco Jan 3, 2022 @ 10:42am 
Does this come with the additional maps, or I need OaR uncut installed before this?
Vrabo Nov 7, 2021 @ 1:26am 
You can get softlocked in OaR if the marine shots your tram with a rocket launcher. It'll break and you'll have to go on foot, but the problem is that 2 maps later, you NEED the tram in order to open the next door.