1.5 : https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3263015203&searchtext=Communicable+Diseases

ooh, lovely! thank you

@Cantaloupe The Clown

There is a system in place that makes apparell with toxin resistance give germ resistance (such as the gas mask)

Additionally, any headgear that covers the mouth and nose or the entire head, gives some germ resistance

@nikos are there plans to integrate PPE into your mod, or does it already integrate with the ones in biotech?

Me version of this mod is now included in my QoL mod, just released the update
the setting that enables the disease system is
"Rebalance Disease Germs And Spread"
i recommend also enabling "Rats Carry Plague" and "No Plague Event"

@nikos great to hear about your progress, keep us posted

Update about my version:

I got the def creator working.
I now have a rudimentary first version of the whole system working.

What i still need to do:
- Fix some errors
- benchmark performance
- balance disease drop rates and spread etc
- Possibly make it so sterile tiles kill germs
- Make it so carried germs are removed from pawns when washing with dubs hygiene stuff
- Dubs hygiene stat affects infection chance (previously implemented for the expansion i made for this mod)
- Traits affect infection chance (also already previously made for the expansion)

If you guys have ideas or requests for my version. post here, on my mod page, or my discord

@GwinnBleidd

I got a good part of the work done today,
i did get a bit stuck on trying to make a def generator for germ filth.
i could just not have the defs auto generate, but its almost working so i think its worth it

But it might still be a while before i release this in an update. i cant really say how long it will take, i may get it done this week, or i could get distracted and work on other stuff

@nikos is there an ETA for your version?
I started working on upgrading this mod to a 1.5 version, for my own consumption mostly, but as usual, I was gonna publish it similar to my other mods (or mods that I took over/support).
Now, I saw your comment and started wondering whether it's gonna be a wasted effort lol

@Nikos Ooooh, I saw those options and wondered about them. Can't wait to see your version in action in the future!

To those interested:
im writing my own vision / version of this mod, it will be an option in my QoL mod, it already included some addons to this mod, but since this mod will not be updated, im adding my own implementation of disease spread, so look out for that.

Thanks for answering anyway!

@Stoic Saltine that's ok, thank you for answering anyway.
Sometimes I find myself lacking the stamina to keep updating my projects too.
Enjoy the "retirement"! :)

I am no longer active in the modding scene, and have no plans on updating this. I apologize for any disappointment.

I don't care about the new disease mechanic much, but are you planning on updating the mod?

Hey! Are you planning in incorperating the new disease mechanic from 1.5 into this mod?

1.5? :)

for myself and anyone else annoyed by this mod and VAE (and other mods) having different items all named "gloves", I made this patch https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3159668575

Question, which Toxic resistance stat does this mod use to calculate the chance of catching a germ? There are two:
- Toxic resistance (How well this creature resists toxic buildup. Aka natural immunity to toxins INSIDE the body)
- Toxic environment resistance (How resistant this creature is to environmental toxins. Aka how well their breathing or other systems filter out dangerous substances from the air. Gas masks work here)

If it's the first one... it really ought to be the second, or calculated based on both. The first represents how well their internal organs (liver, kidneys) filter out toxins, or how well their immune system neutralises threats, while the second represents how well they prevent those toxins or threats getting inside in the first place.

It seems to currently work off only the first value... especially as that's what the apparel is set up to buff.

@instawkward; I had this problem too. The "More Filters for Animals' Pen" mod helps tremendously. Using that I set one pen with one marker to have "Allow without tendable condition" and "Allow with all injuries tended" disabled, while my other pen has 2 markers - 1 with "Allow with tendable condition" disabled and the other with "Allow without all injuries tended" disabled.

Essentially this makes your animal handlers move all animals with a disease or injuries into the 2nd pen, but does not allow them to stay there after they've been healed, so your handlers move them back out.

Works pretty well so far!

Might be a substantial change, but Dubs Bad Hygiene could play very nicely with this. Using it's cleanliness and washing methods of prevention could be nice.

Do the dust mask & vanilla face mask do the same thing i.e. help protect against catching germs? Aside from the social impact. Also does anyone have strategies for isolating pen animals - I know there's a way to assign certain species to a separate pen but this assigns all genders. I can't figure out how to isolate one specific animal

germs aren't real foot

Would be nice If someone could make a patch for "Diseases+" Other than that, This mod is really awesome.. I don't see enough positive comments under these mods that makes the play through more dynamic, Remember to upvote your fav mods yall!

one of my favourite mods, could do with performance optimising patches though :(

Could please make an option to automatically assign a zone for ill pawns?
It would make isolation much more convenient

Ah I see others have had issues with the common cold too. Though I don't see anyone mentioning that medicines that should block it don't work. I'll use that def patch to help.

It seems there's some issue with medicines that should block diseases not working with this mod... my colony has the common cold going around, and everyone is taking vegetable broth from diseases overhauled. They're still catching the cold from the germs despite having taken vegetable broth which should prevent it.

this is awesome
but can you make guestsand traders immune?
every time i get visited with the flue going round all the traders fall ill

Germ theory is unproven.

This basically gives the (non-existent before) immunity to common cold immediately after a person has caught it - which does nothing for its course, but prevents immediately catching it again once you're healthy.

Also I would consider removing the airborne infectiousness from Hansen-Kampff; it is heavily based on real-world leprosy, and while a person technically can catch it from another, it isn't really an airborne infection. Also, given how it's not curable in the original mod (which is a separate issue, but that's beyond something that CD mod should address), it being contagious basically just results in everyone getting it forever once someone got it.

<HediffDef>
<defName>OgImmunityCommonCold</defName>
<hediffClass>Hediff_High</hediffClass>
<label>Immunity: Common Cold</label>
<description>Immunity to the common cold, lasting 40-80 days. Does nothing for those who are already infected.</description>
<defaultLabelColor>(0,1,0.5)</defaultLabelColor>
<scenarioCanAdd>true</scenarioCanAdd>
<maxSeverity>1.0</maxSeverity>
<isBad>false</isBad>
<comps>
<li Class="HediffCompProperties_Disappears">
<disappearsAfterTicks>2400000~4800000</disappearsAfterTicks> <!-- 40 ! 80 days -->
<showRemainingTime>true</showRemainingTime>
</li>
</comps>
<stages>
<li>
<makeImmuneTo>
<li>CommonCold</li>
</makeImmuneTo>
</li>
</stages>
</HediffDef>
</Defs>

Here's how I solved the Common Cold issue on my side; feel free to incorporate this into the patch that ships with CD:

<Operation Class="PatchOperationAdd">
<xpath>/Defs/HediffDef[defName="CommonCold"]/stages/li[1]</xpath>
<value>
<hediffGivers>
<li Class="HediffGiver_AddSeverity">
<hediff>OgImmunityCommonCold</hediff>
<severityAmount>1</severityAmount>
<mtbHours>1</mtbHours>
</li>
</hediffGivers>
</value>
</Operation>

I'm not sure if or when I'll be able to get to that bug, since I'll have to re-download Visual Studio and learn how to check for Biotech in my logic. That's a huge pain in the ass and subtracts from immersion. I'm sorry that it's behaving that way. If that's even possible. But I imagine the logic would just be something like

pawn.genetics.contains("Perfect Immunity"), stop trying to infect

But with that in mind, I wouldn't be able to write that code with other modded genes in mind which might grant immunity. What a headache ...

FYI this mod does not seem fully Biotech compatible. Perfect Immunity pawns (The Archite Gene that Sanguophages have) start catching common colds, malaria etc repeatedly. Admittedly, I also have Diseases Overhauled, but I've seen that this is specifically the communicable variant as I get the spread notification rather than outbreak.

This is especially aggravating because Perfect Immunity gives no immunity gain bonus, so they're not only infected but also more vulnerable than most of my pawns to severe illness.

Ah I see. I lucky got through it, now the plague is spreading and I'm seeing how the immunity prevents it. Now just gotta dev tools the common cold as soon as I see it lol. Thanks

The modder who wrote common cold did it weird. It starts at 100% and drops down to 0% with no immunity buildup. Immunity buildup prevents pawns from re-catching diseases they've already recovered from in this mod. It's an unfortunate mod incompatibility that I haven't had any lucks solving.

I can't get rid of the common cold. It keeps circling around my pawns. As soon as they get healthy, BOOM, disease spreads right back to them. Any ideas?

Are you writing a mod that adds a disease or something? Need more details.

how do i patch this for my own created mod

I wish I had the time to code something like that :(

Before life took a swing, that was on my to do list. But to answer your question: no

To ask a horrific question, can these be used for biological warfare; e.g sending a pod with an infected prisoner/colonist to an enemy colony?

idk did someone ask u, but if u can, pls make comp with disease+

Does this work with the mutergenic disease?

@O Negative
I know this is asking a lot, but would you be willing to add me on steam or Discord (Nex#5992). I promise to not bug you too often, but I'd like to share with you my ideas for an extension of CD that incorporates a few other mods and would appreciate getting feedback when I'm done with the planning phase. It might be a while before I can get it done, my thesis isn't exactly going to code itself, but I'm confident I have the skills and drive to do it. I'm currently drawing up a document on the vanilla and Diseases Overhauled mods that would work with A) expanding CE methods as they are, and B) adding waterborn/zoonotic transmission and would love to share that when it's finished.

Good to know, thanks. If I did that, I might lower some base disease rates a twinge. But honestly I LOVE how realistic it feels :) You did an awesome job.

I haven't touched the code to this mod in some time except to make some updates, but I think I currently have it set to check the filth description for race props or something, which means zoonotic diseases aren't a thing yet. I do recall that being something I wanted to introduce, but people were already complaining about how hard it is to deal with diseases that I decided to not make it a thing.

I think you'd need to override some part of that mods objects and give it a property that you can work off of. I did something similar with pawn stats in the early days of this mod, where I added a stat to pawns that determined their resistance to germs which was completely separate from toxic resistance, but that became cumbersome and I made the switch.

Also, is it possible to allow some diseases to jump from animal to humans? Like is that a tweak I could add pretty easily?

Thank you. I'm comfortable with C#, but am curious if you think it's something I could introduce simply using Dub's existing untreated water code and some new XML. I imagine it would be possible to have some sort of disease specific contamination attached to the faeces and transferred to nearby water that adds a chance to get that disease.

I don't currently have any code for waterborne things. I only kept the base game in mind when I made this mod, so it uses the filth system and I made my own map conditions for mosquitos but that's about it. I commend you for taking on a project of that scale, please come back here and post when you complete it because I'd be interested in checking it out