Crusader Kings II

Crusader Kings II

Less Random Deadly Duels
146 Comments
antiworld Jan 4 @ 3:41pm 
Works fine if not using ck+ or other huge overhaul mod. It's hard to get back to ck2 without this, where duels for players got rigged way too much like modern git gud games.
Jinksio Aug 27, 2024 @ 12:23pm 
Does this mod also apply to battlefield duels?
EXECUTIONER Jun 6, 2024 @ 8:37am 
"but if your skill is 100 points higher than your opponent's skill you should always win the fight."
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154 vs 22
I died:steamthumbsdown::steamhappy:
Goldilocksguy Jan 9, 2024 @ 11:24pm 
I was about to ask the same thing what King said. Hope am not just going blind. :qlhs_reika:
King K. Dec 2, 2023 @ 1:34pm 
Bro did you set private the Prisoner Marriage mod i didn't find it i was going to add mod to my collection but it errored
Dr.Arkov Jul 30, 2023 @ 11:18am 
Is this mod save game compatible?
Honkler Mar 29, 2023 @ 8:09pm 
is there anyway we will ever get a version thats compatible with ck2plus? if i try to use it atm it gives me 2 events of duels. Also the CK2plus event system is as random as vanilla, i had 400 FUCKING DUEL POWER and died to a fat one handed leper with -17.
Rune_of_Escape Mar 5, 2023 @ 4:58am 
I'm not the most patient person, so I reloaded about 3-4 times and it was always the same. Nevermind. Most of kings in my games are actually horrible, so I keep them away. It's only problem when I try to go out and "socialize" with other kings xD
Bio the Human Feb 6, 2023 @ 10:07am 
How many times did you reload the save?

Anyway, I can tell you that while using the mod I've experienced quite balanced outcomes:
Known outcome when there is a huge difference and RNG outcomes when the two combat skills are similar (I've both won and lost with 1-5 Combat skills difference.)

But that's my experience, so it can totally be that the mod is actually broken :V
Rune_of_Escape Feb 6, 2023 @ 12:55am 
Yes, I reloaded the save before the duel, every time it's the same. I expect it could be that enemy cheats, but explaining it to myself every time is a pain in the ass.
Bio the Human Feb 5, 2023 @ 9:07am 
@Rune_of_Escape what do you mean that you "always lose"? You've repeated the duel multiple times? I've noticed that when the two combat skills are similar, the match is quite RNG (as it should be). Also, can't it be that your enemy cheats?
Rune_of_Escape Feb 5, 2023 @ 5:43am 
I have an issue but only when difference in combat skill is insignificant, for ex. 16 vs 14 in my favor, but the game says I have lower skill and I always lose. Is this supposed to be that way or not? I mean, everythig else works fine.
Bio the Human Sep 6, 2022 @ 1:44pm 
@lidku716 IT seems working for me. Before using it I lost a duel (me 40 vs -10) and after mod never lost one :/
lidku716 Sep 4, 2022 @ 8:03am 
I'd like to know whether or not this mod works as well. Wouldn't want to bother starting up a new game with this unless I know for sure..
Armand12 Mar 13, 2022 @ 12:25am 
@Coach I think some of the comments have devolved into sarcastic in-jokes but I can't be sure. I believe it is working properly.
Coach Feb 18, 2022 @ 5:28am 
So.. is this mod working or not? from the comments it seems the mod is not working properly, yet it has 5 stars.
Checkmate Nov 10, 2021 @ 1:50pm 
Cool mod! But what if it were a David and Goliath situation? It isn't unreasonable, right, that David could beat Goliath, despite Goliath's advantage?

So, would there still be chances for losing a duel, if your opponent had realistic luck (i.e. your opponent is a competent fighter, despite being lower skill number)?
CptnG4yF1re Jun 13, 2021 @ 12:40pm 
Im trying to incorporate this into Elder Kings and im suffering. Is there a way for someone who only ever has changed numbers to do this without crying over his own ineptitude?
The Real Adachi P4G Apr 20, 2021 @ 9:40pm 
For some reason this mod bugs out when I do the opening duel quest for one of the warrior pagan societies and it repeatedly duels them over and over till one of us is dead. No clue why and may be because I modded the join conditions of the society to replace the tribal/nomadic condition with a martial one but I keep just getting like 5 duel results at once and at least one of them is my death when I try to join one. Other than that the mod seems to have been working fine for me.
Mokke Mar 19, 2021 @ 10:32am 
Is the mod still working? Recently lost a duel to someone when having 114 Personal Combat Skill over him. Is there a way to see if he cheated in the duel? Character didn't have high intrigue either.
Stick God Feb 15, 2021 @ 3:34pm 
Broken mod very mad. My 5 combat skill character didnt kill the Hre emperor with only 150 combat skill. deleting all game files now.
♥♥♥.eater45 Jan 12, 2021 @ 9:56pm 
Now the reason i downloaded this mod is because I wasn't really taking the game seriously and decided to cheat in an immortal mega god. Then I joined the wolf warriors like any Germanic would became leader and went on a legend bloodline thing (can't remember what their called) I had 400 PCS (personal combat skill) and lost to a guy with 100! So i reloaded a save and tried again lost AGAIN and reloaded again and lost. Got tired of it thank Odin I found this mod.
Dragatus  [author] Dec 1, 2020 @ 9:02am 
That's strange and shouldn't happen. How big was the difference in skill?
Aven Oul Dec 1, 2020 @ 5:06am 
my chars (with better fighting skill) have died to more random bs with this mod, than it did without this mod
los9w2012 Oct 16, 2020 @ 9:47am 
no, I installed incorrectly.
i just replaced the 01_scripted_effects_duels.txt file
right now i fixed it.
here it is simply not written how to install it, from the description I concluded that it is enough just to replace the file.
sorry, thanks
jaimeravachi Oct 16, 2020 @ 9:28am 
How do I confirm that? It appears on my mod list in the launcher and it is active in the mod list inside the game.
Dragatus  [author] Oct 16, 2020 @ 7:25am 
Thank you for reporting the problem. Can you confirm if Steam installed the mod properly?
los9w2012 Oct 16, 2020 @ 7:09am 
the mod didn't work for me.
I had 150 martial skills, the enemy had 19.
I had 20+ intrigue, the enemy had 9.
I lost and died) (
jaimeravachi Oct 5, 2020 @ 11:28am 
This isn't working for me with the Historical Immersion Project (HIP) mod.
__ Sep 18, 2020 @ 5:11pm 
I'm just getting into CK2 and I didn't want to use any mods so I could do Ironman runs, but the duel system is so absolutely, pants-on-head ridiculous that I'm abandoning that idea. Blind cripple with a -157 personal combat skill effortlessly slaughtering a viking warrior with 5 combat traits? Jesus.
Dragatus  [author] Sep 1, 2020 @ 4:08pm 
There is now a CK3 version of sorts for this mod. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2216827183
Dragatus  [author] Sep 1, 2020 @ 9:01am 
Ouch. That was just a little bit short of the protection mechanism kicking in.
Wide Thorgrim Sep 1, 2020 @ 7:32am 
Downloaded the mod and immediately died to someone with 4 combat skill while having 90 myself....

10/10
Dragatus  [author] Aug 27, 2020 @ 2:51am 
I'll have to see what the duel engine is like in CK3, but if it's anything like CK2 I'll try to make a CK3 version of this mod within the first week after release.
Sel Und Irae Aug 25, 2020 @ 7:38pm 
I only hope a mod like this exists for Crusader Queens 3 cause lord we all know paradog will screw the duel system again.
Dracula Aug 25, 2020 @ 8:48am 
just lost a duel to a maimed, inbred 18 year old when i had 200 PC, i welcome this mod with open arms
Eagle 11 Jul 25, 2020 @ 8:28am 
experienced way less wtf moments after installing this mod, so have my thanks for it
Dragatus  [author] Jun 20, 2020 @ 10:51pm 
I'm not going to expand the functionality of this mod, but I'd be surprised if nobody else made a mod for what you asked for.
chebonaparte Jun 20, 2020 @ 5:00am 
Can you make it so we can duel anybody anytime? I hate waiting for the exact timing of duel allowances
Dragatus  [author] May 29, 2020 @ 11:51pm 
Mod updated with the fix.
Triction May 29, 2020 @ 1:15am 
No worries, thanks again for the mod.
Dragatus  [author] May 28, 2020 @ 9:30pm 
Now that is an example of a perfect bug report. Thank you.
Triction May 28, 2020 @ 9:23am 
Hey there, I noticed some errors in "01_scripted_effects_duels.txt" on lines 1607, 1611 and 1616, they are all "value" rather than "factor". Other than that, mod seems to be working fine. Great mod.
Xpert May 2, 2020 @ 4:58am 
dunno, did about a dozen duels today and died in 2 where the difference was over 300, ill try deleting the file and reinstalling, and see what changes. I can only assume that something is up and it's not activating, since I've used your other nice mods and this one has a solid 5 stars.
Dragatus  [author] Apr 30, 2020 @ 5:55am 
I'm sorry if that came across as patronizing, but I can't think what else could possibly be wrong and I do know that sometimes the workshop fails to install mods properly.
Dragatus  [author] Apr 30, 2020 @ 5:54am 
That's strange. Is the mod active?
Xpert Apr 30, 2020 @ 5:34am 
Loaded earlier save, nearly same exact thing. nearly 200 difference, and dead. First duel by the way.
Xpert Apr 30, 2020 @ 3:35am 
5 duels in and slain by someone with nearly 200 pc less than me, hope i'm just that unlucky.
Chashmodai Apr 26, 2020 @ 9:09am 
Thank you for this mod. No more losing against opponents that can barely lift a sword.
Dragatus  [author] Apr 21, 2020 @ 10:30pm 
You'd have to have a different mod for it.