Been a few years since I played Guardians and my notes are almost non existent I'm afraid, however, with all of this guy's games the watchword is save often, resist the urge to delete old saves (I move them into a different folder to archive them as I go along) and prepare to die many times lol.

Back to the scavenger/bug pyramid issue, looking at the dungeon editor there are spawners that spawn every 35 seconds. I've gone AFK a few times in the dungeon and so I expect each of those rooms is chock full of bugs, which means there are 40 bugs in total to kill...which seems like a bug to me. It's incredibly difficult. Even if I bear form, rage potion, speed potion, and use antidotes to fix paralysis, I still can't even make it to the first hive to stop the spawner.

On the topic of food, it's a bit of a chore in the first couple of areas, but pretty soon you won't really have a food problem, so long as you have a Farmer or two. My mage is a farmer which is nice as I can level them up by feeding them and unlock more spell options that way.

Worst case scenario, unlock the console and cheat. There's no shame in it, you're there to have fun, right? spawn("bread") is all you need.

Loving the mod, some great design in it...all the way up to the point I decided to plunge into the Pyramid without making a static save beforehand. Now I'm stuck in there with no way out, and it's incredibly difficult. The mummies I got past with lots of fire bombs, the snakes I muddled through, but the scavengers...just what am I supposed to do against these gits? I've tried cocooning myself in a forcefield and letting the electric/fire traps take care of them, but I ran out of resources before they're all dealt with (do they keep coming?). if I charge forward I come across pairs of sentinals in a cramped space, with the scavengers still at my heels. It's just...overwhelming and not particularly enjoyable. If only I could return to livingrock and pick up more supplies that I didn't realise I'd need before plummeting into the hole.

@Dugunthi
Most of the really good items are found in secrets, or areas controlled by the more powerful monsters. The zombies and rats don't actually respawn in Goldhaven either, and they aren't that difficult to take care of if you employ the right tactics.

@Zombiesbum
It's one of the reasons Adrageron advises you to take a Farmer with you on your first playthrough. This allows you to cook pretty much anything from the get go from basic ingredients that you find lying around all over the place once you go outside.

The lack of food makes this mod not enjoyable. The player is punished for trying to figure out puzzles because of the forced time constraint. It's artificial difficulty, and just encourages players to save scum after figuring out a puzzle and/or to look up guides in order to do puzzles quickly.

Overall thismod is the most fun I had with LoG2 so far. But the slow pace at which you find better gear is frustrating, and in fact Goldhaven is the least fun I had with LoG2 so far. I defaulted to cheating my way through getting diseased every third step I took. The respawning zombies and rats would be more fun if they were more quick to dispose of.

@Anamoní
Location of "Top Way" notes:


Top Way NW (1/4) in Citadel Dungeon
Top Way NE (2/4) in Hoary Mountain Caves
Top Way W (3/4) in Gorge of Seven Winds
Top Way E (4/4) in Undertown

Long time since I did this one and my records are pretty poor unfortunately, however, I do have one thing that says there is a note in Undertown saying "Top Way 4/4". I've looked all through my leftover notes and can't find any that say Top Way so maybe they're combined into another note or consumed when used? Sorry I can't be of more help.

Alright, I've been going through the game and checking the guide whenever I finish an area and have no clue where secrets might be, and it SAYS Top Way 1/4 is in one of the secrets in undertown, but it's not there, and I have 2 3 and 4, so either that note WASN'T 1/4, in which case I have no clue where to find that note, or I somehow grabbed it, and lost it, and have absolutely no clue where it could even be because I've been putting all my extra notes into a big pile and it wasn't in there either.

Hello Kysomu, thanks for the reply, no I hadn't tried to use old saves I start a new game, select characters and the game starts but weather I try quick save(F5) or hard savi it crashes. Would really love to be able to play even if it means upgrading my laptop.

@patryan11 Usually the 4gb patch solves all the save crashing problems so not sure what's happening with you. The only other thing I heard was if the mod was updated and you install the new version and use saves you made from the old version, sometimes the update is not compatible with old saves.

Hello all, have to say I so love LOG 2 mods but I cannot get Final Adventure to save without crashing? Have all settings on low but no good. Also installes 4gb patch...no good. I'm usind 8th generation Dell XPS could this be the problem? Please help!

Try "Final Adventure" it's the best mod ever!

Cannot remember when I first started this, stopped, started; got further - gave up in the Citadel. This time gone through it all. I want to know where Adrageron got the Tardis from to have so much time that it obviously took to create this. I think I probably preferred Lost City but this was still an an amazing mod with some great ideas (trading in old stuff at Ratlington probably being the stand-out). Yes, it can be frustrating at times, but once you power up a bit or change tack, suddenly it all becomes clear. And resources are there for using. Excellent work, Adrageron.

Was there actually a clue re the Snail delight? It would need a recipe but nothing rings any bells. Or did you need to get it from the Archivist? Tough towards the end to get blank scrolls!

Found it by scouring some discussions, Snail meat is obtainable via Inferno.

Still wondering how the hell you get the Snail Treat. Guide isn't any help

Here to say The Guardians was a gem of a mod and superior to the base game. You work makes this game's value skyrocket honestly. Playing Final Adventure now and it's incredible, you're a miracle worker.

@Dartean Thanks for the response! I'll give it a try then!

@Mc Wiliamsworthstonsmithington No, if I remember correctly, no multi-story ladders in this one.

Just a question before I try this mod. Is there any damage ladder in this one?

I kinda ragequit lost city because of the amount of ladders that led to a broken leg.
Are there a lot in this one too?

Nvm my last question, found it all the way back in the forgotten god's shrine in the boss room

One final question for this mod:
What exactly is the Snail treat / Snail meat and how do I get it? I am missing only the 2 secrets relating to it. Didn't find any information on this anywhere (and the guide isn't helpful about this).

I'm redoing a 100% playthrough now, and it seems like i've missed the +1 vitality amulet (Worshippers amulet?), anyone know where it might be?

@Kysumu
1. Thanks, I didn't realize the note was directing the player to a hidden secret in the library
2. Thanks, but I was aware of the location (from a guide), I just didn't find the clue leading to it and was wondering where did I miss it

@TheOne It's a while since I played Guardians so I hope these answers are correct.

1. Assuming you have opened the door to the Arcane Library go to the bookcase in the NW corner of the room, there's a book at the left end of the third shelf up, click on it.

2. I don't remember where the clue is but using (x,y) co-ordinates where bottom left square is (1,1) and top right square is (32,32) you can find the treasure chest at (7,20).

Hi, I have 2 questions:
1) I found a note in Livingrock saying "You can get one of the arcane library books for free" . How exactly? I've tried paying for every book there and didn't get refunded. Also tried putting the letter in each alcove and nothing happened.
2) In Misty Swamps, I know there is a treasure there , but I didn't find any note or other clues leading to it's whereabouts. Where is the clue leading to the treasures location?
Thanks

(Exceeded the 1000 character limit apparently)

Anyway, tried again later on and just now after another 6 hours of play reached the same point. Did some experimentation and it's definitely a glitch that only occurs if you retrap the left one first. Indeed, doing so with the right one doesn't appear to result in any problems and you can then comfortably retrap them both.

Nice mod, if overly convoluted in places (I prefer Lost City myself). In any case, I was just wondering whether you were aware of the touchpad glitch where the Shield of the Mountain scroll is with the two practically indestructible elementals?

Basically, I was playing it earlier today, wondering if I could grab that scroll earlier than usual by retrapping the SOBs, naturally utilising Force Field to keep one out of the way after releasing it beforehand while I quickly dealt with the other upon grabbing the scroll. No problem for the one on the left, except when I went to do the same with the one on the right, it kept skipping across the touchpad and nothing I did would remedy it. This effectively trapped me in the room and cost me the game since I hadn't saved it for quite a while; a very careless oversight on my part.

after completing lost city with its annoying level design, this one seems even worse with added annoyance of not being able to eat food you find. really, every zone is a labyrinth to navigate and is annoying at every step. i gave up after 2 hours

freddieclark, ethereal blades and any fire spell should deal with them

I just entered the pyramid, roped down to the lower level and after killing some mummies and other things I was attacked by two dark spirits. dispel did not seem to work on them? how do we kill them?

Thanks for the reply Kysumu! The sign was actually kinda misleading and referred to the number of secrets in the maze ( it is right by the keyholes so it really looks like it would refer to that). Found all 3 secrets so I was able to move forward :)

@blob My notes are rubbish for Guardians but scanning the comments says there are 4 ornate keys in Catacombs, there are holes to drop down from Valley of the Dead to access some and tbh you may have to use them in Catacombs anyway, I can't remember. The only other thing I can think of is the sign says "wrong key, wrong place" so is that a clue that it may look like an ornate lock but actually uses a different key? Check out the youtube guides I guess.

Could I get a hint for the 3rd ornate key in maze of madness? A sign says if I dont find them now I ll miss them? Found 2 hidden chests looking for it but no idea what to do or where it could be.

@marekphoto Hmm I guess you will have to map the old school way and draw them yourself! Yes there are 3 places in Gem Mine you need to have a Miner's Certificate to get access. You will find these as you explore but I don't have a note of exactly where they are.

To enter the ironworks, in the walkthrough I watched a mine key was required which I have, but on my version a certificate is required, which I can't find. Can anyone advise please?

Thank's Kysumu, there is only a Windows system patch. My only option is to play the game without using any Maps as opening the Map is what is making it crash!! Not sure how far I will get Haha....

@marekphoto Click on the "Description" tab at the top and look in the "known issues" section, there is a link to the patch there, however, I don't know if there is an Apple version.

Hi Kysumu, thank you for the advice...
Do you have a link to it? I am on apple and can only find the Windows version...

@marekphoto Have you installed the 4Gb patch? It fixes some problems with these large mods. There's a few comments and links to it in these forums.

Can anyone please help, when I visit Goldhaven and open the map the game crashes. I have tried changing the game quality and restarting but it still crashes. I'm a bit gutted as have got this far in the game and can't get past this.

@PTG37 I think they can be used to mend a bridge somewhere so you can cross the water to a new area.

Thanks a lot! By the way, what do I use planks for? Been stuck in my eq for half the game

@PTG37
It was long time ago, but I thing the rememberance ceremony needed gems. So the notes "3 more a needed..." talks about blue gems iirc.

@PTG37 My notes are lousy on Guardians but there is one room in FGS where you need to put four items down to access a secret area. In the room on the East middle side where you get the Deity Figurine you need to put a Blue Gem on each of the four altars to open up a secret area. I honestly don't know if this is relevant to your question!

I found the "3 more are needed for the remembrance ceremony" note but I forgot which item it was... Anyone could help me out? I'm talking about Forgotten God's Shrine

"Blessing of wood"-
look for where there are a lot of aggressive stumps near the altar. Put something wooden on the altar
"Blessing of wind"-what do eagles usually feed? Look for an altar on a hill.

what is the "Blessing of wood" and the "Blessing of wind"?