@Corvus
You come off as extremely passive aggressive, by the way. Just hope you know that.

Ah yeah, I did say something like that in the past, but that was years ago, and I think I changed a bit.

Now that I rethink about this, it's a mix of everything: the new texture looks higher quality, Ludeon did explicitly decide to comply to Geneva Convention (but Ludeon is not a military...? idk about international laws), and RBSE did something not warranted.

Your previous comments would suggest otherwise. Hey, I'm not judging either way; different things annoy different people. I've definitely got a few of those myself! I just thought it was kind of funny seeing your comments about the symbol violating the Geneva convention, while talking about a game that like you make hats out of human babies. No ill will meant, just a funny contrast imo!

Actually, I don't care about the red cross stuff; this is RimWorld afterall.

What I care is eg RBSE doing what is clearly not in its mod description.

You know that "I can excuse [horrible thing] but I draw the line at [way less important thing]" meme? This reminds me of that. You can excuse human leather hats, slavery, cannibalism, human experimentation, inhumane prison conditions, and who even knows what else, but you draw the line at using a red plus sign on a first aid kit. Priorities LMAOO

YES war crimes

Thanks, I was wondering why my game was suddenly violating the geneva convention

I have no idea why RBSE forced you to use the old textures, so silly

All of this was nice to read.

While the Red Cross does reserve the right to trademark their logo, and there is a certain sanctity in the clear and untampered messaging involved in such a symbol, this is a mod. This is not in the official game, this is just someone changing the color of a symbol that, in the context in which he's using the red cross symbol, it holds no life-or-death meaning. No one here is defiling the symbol.

While legally this would not necessarily fall under fair use, the law isn't necessarily the ultimate purveyor of morality. I see no immediate issue with the context in which the symbol is being ‘misused’.

"The red cross is a powerful symbol of neutrality, impartiality, humanity and hope. Please help us protect it!" No the red cross is supposed to be a symbol of healthcare.

Rowan stop letting people manipulate your {LINK VERWIJDERD}emotions.In rimworld they can't even use their half baked health pickup argument, because 100% of time its someone litterally using a glorified first aid kit to patch someone up. its a gross missuse of trademark law, and that is 100% percent fact in every way shape and form. What argument do any of you have against that fact? I only see emotional babbling when it comes to people trying to play devils advocate. The red cross as a global organization has completely overstayed its welcome. The undenialable corruption within the entity has made the organization nothing more then a burden that gets in the way of every aspect of life. Their literally as effective as the NRA at this point.

You don't have to be a "signatory nation" to the Geneva Convention to respect something the Red Cross has literally asked the game community specifically to respect. {LINK VERWIJDERD}https://www.redcross.ca/about-us/about-the-canadian-red-cross/red-cross-emblem/it-may-just-be-a-game-to-you-but-it-means-the-world-to-us

imagine having an argument over the fucking geneva convention on rimworld you absolute fucking donkeys @Thirsk @Vectorial1024

Honestly, i dont get it either

I've never really quite accepted the position of the ICRC on this. Game devs are literally using the emblem to showcase "health" and "life" -- exactly the purpose of the real symbol. People see the symbol in a game and/or real life and think the same thing: people stay alive. Any attempt for ICRC to claim otherwise is just posturing, applying and interpreting trademark law far too rigidly.

That said, the new textures are actually better than the old ones; they're 2.5D!

@Thirsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOAq26xCefY

@Vectorial1024
You aren't honoring the Geneva Convention because neither of us are acting on behalf of the military of a signatory nation of the Geneva Conventions (or at least, I'm not). It's like saying you *intend* to honor the law against speeding on roads by preemptively paying the government for a speeding ticket despite never speeding; you can do it if you want, but you're not honoring it by following it in situations it wasn't supposed to apply in. You are ignoring both the spirit and the letter of the law that you claim to honoring.

You can use this mod if you just prefer the color green over the color red, it really doesn't matter that much to me at all. I'm not petitioning for you to delete this mod or whatever other silly ideas you seem to have gotten into your head, I'm just mildly annoyed that you're stating that the Geneva Convention has anything at all to do with that decision when it is very explicit that it would not apply here in any way, shape, or form.

@Thirsk

I dont know. Quantum computing algorithm thesis papers are just a few thousand words long. The slightly-well-educated people should be able to read them fine. I guarantee it.

Still, if you do not agree with my mod, then you may just as well unsubscribe from here, and also delete your local copy of this mod. Shred your local copy too if you want to clean it thoroughly. And finally, move along and enjoy life as it has always been, live your life the way you want to, and be on your way.

I did re-state the original idea of creating this mod though: someone overwrote something in vanilla game, and I bring those overwritten things back. It's that simple. (Although, of course, I also *intended* to honor the Geneva Convention on my side. Not legally required, but still I want to honor it.)

@Vectorial1024
>Too long, didnt read.
Why bother replying, then? Serious question, because I genuinely do not understand why you would respond just by saying you're too lazy to read the post you're responding to.

Also, it's seven sentences. I can't even imagine you in your daily life if seven sentences is so long that you're incapable of even reading it before responding to it. How do you apply to jobs? Can you even read a menu, or is that too taxing on you as well?

@Thirsk

Too long, didnt read.

Tynan removed the red cross, but some mods add the red cross back.

I as a modder am simply allowing users to opt back in to follow Tynan's design decision.

I have no knowledge of and have no interest in knowing how Red Cross operates.

@Vectorial1024
First, the Geneva Convention applies to signatory nations. I can't think of any mod that was created by a nation's government, so the Geneva Convention is utterly irrelevant to them. If the Queen starts making mods it would be a bit more complicated, but until then we can ignore it.
Second, the part of the Geneva Convention that specifies that only the Red Cross/Crescent can use that symbol is specifically referring to a military using that symbol. I, as a private citizen, can use the symbol all I want. Red Cross sends threatening messages to people/businesses, but they have never once followed up in court if the person ignores those threats because they have no legal basis for their threats . They do not own the trademark on that symbol, they just like to pretend that they do.

@ExplorerRowan
Well...
I guess those modders never heard of/never really paid attention to the god-damn Geneva Convention...
Petty, I agree.

I appreciate this. I don't know why changing the cross to red is such a sticking point for seemingly every modder who makes any kind of medical mod. It's petty.

XD

Thank you to the author.You are one of the good in quality and understanding of people.Thank you for even using Google Translate. (Google Translate,but in brains)

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Я не думаю, что мод EPOE слишком сильно меняет текстуры. Тем не менее, мы знаем, что RBSE сделан потому, что их автор был разочарован ценностями внутри EPOE. RBSE и EPOE похожи в некоторых отношениях. Возможно, у EPOE также есть копия старых текстур, и она также говорит игре, чтобы они отображали эти старые текстуры. Так что, возможно, этот мод также работает для EPOE в этом аспекте.
(Переведено с помощью Google Translate)

@Leon Trotsky
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Этот мод только отменяет изменения, внесенные модом RBSE в текстуры лекарств.
Мод RBSE имел копию старых текстур и переопределял файлы, чтобы игра отображала старые текстуры.
Этот мод просто говорит игре использовать новые доступные текстуры и больше ничего не делает.

I write easy

Pls use google.

Я так вижу ты переводишь с переводчика.Ну что же надеюсь ты это тоже переводишь.Этот мод работает на части тела ? И на органы ? Возвращает ли он текстуры например мода : Expanded Prosthetics and Organ Engineering как поменять текстуру

ay bro thanks for this mod, I was playing with epoe and I'm so triggered that I can't change the medicine back to vanilla colors

@V-_-Z
Я не делаю HD-текстуры. Кроме того, этот мод не содержит дополнительных текстур; он просто говорит игре использовать правильные.
(Перевод с помощью Google Translate)

Отличный мод! Хотелось бы побольше модов с HD текстурами.

Omg you're a gem! I really disliked that RBSE changed the textures on you - why couldn't that have been another, smaller mod >:( . Thank you for making this!