Just realized that ALV's question was probably about Confederating an A.I. controlled Lord. So my reply earlier does not necessarily apply. Oopsy.

And my reply to Brooder still depends on whether Brooder is referring to pre SFO Grimhammer Mod or not. SFO 2 does rework the Building Trees and so it could have changed the placement and trigger for Specialized Landmarks and other buildings. I believe it mentioned that they still exist, but at what level and where (might be some were moved to different tier cities or just incorporated at starting tier), I can't say for sure.

@ Brooder

I think I recall that as possible in the pdf file describing SFO Grimhammer 2. Only thing I can think that might limit possibly limit that, as a guess, might be what BRANCH of CHAOS Lord Development you proceed down.

So might depend on Unified Lord versus picking a more biased approach.

Might also depend on Demon Lord favored and how good your Favor with that Chosen Lord is when City is entered, conquered, or checked, as another possibility

@ ALV , TLDR is probably YES.

The Bloodline Lords definitely pops up as available for Isabella by at least turn 2 or 3 as a mechanic or feature. Vlad is Von Carstein and might get it one turn earlier, since is probably triggered by his presence. Mannfred probably has it innately as well, but haven't played him and checked that. Ghorst should at least have Strigoi tabs and/or Necromancer tabs of Lords to choose from as well, not sure on Von Carstein and others. Possibly some limitations per which Legendary Lord chosen, probably not.

I may play Vamp Counts by next week just to examine the start conditions a bit, if so I'll do a test drive thru Turn 2 on each and maybe do a quick look, if others don't reply by then.

I remember playing as Chaos a long time ago, and they had unique buildings in some of the captured settlements. For some reason, they're gone now.

I was hoping to play as Vlad and farm one of the AI vampire counts so when I confederated the AI I would have a ton of bloodline lords

Damn, I messed up my grammar there.. Anyway, may I ask where does this question come from, ALV?

Thanks my man

Yes, Pedro, AI vamp counds still do recruit bloodline lords.

Do AI vamp counts still recruit bloodline lords?

fro those who say the game is unplayable with dark elves or vampire or other, just use the cheat mod to change everything you want in the campagne, lower their stats and it's done.

@Dayan_Ita Stumbled across the same thing with Goblin Spear Chukkas. In my case i forgot you can scroll to the side.

extremely strong vampires. Any. Vampire Coast and Carsteins steamroller over elves and empire. And then disperse chaos. Played 4 games, only SFO was on. And every time the same thing

They ain't lyin about the dark elves lol, purple map

Literally unplayable due to the dark elves becoming a super power in less than 10 turns.

is it just me with this mod...but the dark elves take the entire map 100% of the time? like litterally a wave of purple over the entire map within 100 turns

Is it me or High Elves never want to confederate with this mod?

I don't know if is a bug, but it feels like the black ark corsairs are way overtuned for their unit tier.

It seems I can't recruit Gyrocopter, Hammerers and Ironbrakers as Dwarfs even if I have respectively the Engineer Workshop and Gromril Forge. Am I missing something?

Oh, that's the game that Raphael Perry, a YouTuber, was playing for a series of episodes recently. Very unique and interesting playing game. That explains it somewhat, Venris.

Ok, I'll have to look into it more. Didn't realize your team had worked on it. Decent price, too.

Think Arkhan the black (Nagash) has a few bugs. The research stance adds turns rather than decrease and I unlocked a liche priest via tech (using canopic jars) and didnt work. Lybaras and Nehek seem ok...

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nice

Woohoo! Thanks mate!

@ALV: yes he does.

Does the Red Duke have a unique skill line if I confederate him?

@Venris thanks for the response! I wasn't aware of that fact and assumed it was the same as WH2.

@ Anton, in addition there are some well known race packs and other mods that are known to work with SFO, and sometimes that may require a special version of that Mod that works with SFO, as often that other mod has an author that wants his mod to work on SFO. Anyway, worst case, often Venris will come over and check even still this thread, often within a few days. Nonetheless, you can read the manual that comes with the SFO mod, or check the main website for it, and find it there.

@ Anton, you'd have to get more specific. But, from what I remember, SFO is meant to be, at first, installed upon an UN-MODDED game to start. Then there are some mods that are compatible you can add after SFO, and there are references for that.

From what I thought your post said, you have already an Overhaul installed, and most Overhauls will tend to be incompatible with SFO. But I am sure someone with more direct knowledge will reply, but you have to be more specific as to what the current mods are, etc.

I'm not sure the sfo mod change my ingame overhaul. Is there any key featura to check for it has been activated for campaign. Right now it looks life vanilla one

@big boi stinkums: Matter of preference tbh.

@Venris Is it worth playing though compared to 2?

@EquinoxGG: Not at all. Warhammer 3 scales abilities values based on unit size. Only game in series btw.

So if I only use large unit size, how does it affect the balancing of battles?

I stopped using Grimhammer because I think it made the AI overall dumber and more predictable. I've used it for years but not for my current Bretonnia Very Hard run.

Must just be the health balance on the unit then

@Shasocais: Mods cant do such change.

Were any changes made to how damage interacts with phys resistance? 55% phys resistance ethereal units seem to be being immediately dumpstered by basic high elven archers

Vampires are too strong in this mod. Each playthrough they annihilate the Empire and capture Altdorf on turn 40. The game turns into zombie survival

Help! I'm on turn 157 of the chaos campaign and if i try to attack anybody my game crashes

You've created a very high-quality mod, thank you for your hard work.

However, there's a specific feature I would like to remove while playing this mod. The characters seem to apply global debuff effects, such as reducing income from various sources and increasing upkeep costs. These effects appear to increase with each level-up of the characters (at least that's my understanding, though I might be mistaken).

I would like to completely disable this feature. To do this, what should I modify in the .pack file of the mod? Would it be sufficient to zero out the 'wh_skill_character_upkeep' effects in the 'character_skill_level_to_effects_junctions_tables' column under the 'SFO_skill' section?

What I'm aiming for is to remove the hidden global negative effects from the skill named 'MAINTENANCE' that the characters cause as they level up, and to disable this feature entirely.

My bad, I only tested it on the first turn. Thank you for clarifying things and for still providing support for us Warhammer 2 players! I had the pop up on the 4th turn this time. Great mod!

@thophi0:l Its not for first turn but in first 5 turns.

Unit caps system dilemma event is not showing up on first turn of the campaign (both vortex and mortal empires campaign). Everything works except for the dilemma event not showing. I tested it with only this mod subscribed and activated in KMM (I also purged all the non sfo mods in the data and workshop folder and verify integrity of game files before testing). Is this only a problem on my side?

@Caesar: look on his campaign effects :).

I start with a lot of units as Franz and empire, is it because I changed difficulty to normal?

In addition, much of that speaks volumes about what Venris and his team were able to accomplish with SFO Grimhammer 2, and without all design specs nor allocated monetary funding to boot. Then, to see TWWH 3 initially release without half the stuff either in TWWH 2 and for a long time almost no substitute for the added features or factions already in SFO Grimhammer 2 ... well, it astounds as well as further eases the decision to stick with this, until TWWH 3 gets less expensive and enjoy all in this, before you buy an incomplete TWWH 3 Collection with any doubts in its implementation.

Boshty, no worries, I and a lot of other people feel the same way about TWWH 2 vs 3. All sorts of reasons have been noted in past -- graphical style, completeness, number of factions, price, overall end-game, various game-modes differ, more Fantasy Style Factions vs Demonic, etc. So, at least there is an overall subjective different in what players might prefer. Then consider lower cost of older series, Mods like SFO 2, which already added in many of the 3 Factions and Features for free and further improved on 2's remaining weaknesses, SFO 2's Improved GUI that makes more features within TWWH2 Transparent/Better Explained/Improved Player QoL, without requiring additional real money, etc.

There's a case to be made for TWWH 2 over 3 (and vice-versa depending on players' interests), but TWWH 2 with SFO 2, really either closes the gap even more, OR makes SFO 2 with TWWH 2 the superior choice.

and i dont mean i hate the SFO version of TW3. (incase of any misconception there lol) I mean i straight up dont like TW3 in general. (compared to 2, its still a great game lol. it just isnt this)

Forgot how much more I like TW2 than TW3 since coming back to try it out. I dunno what it is about 3, but i just hate it compared to 2. Thanks for ftill caring about the SFO for 2. looking forward to getting back into the good old games :)

I started it today its really fun with a friend we are stupid so the Campaigns are ending up . . .Kinda fun