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Alienware Alpha
Has anyone tried SteamOS on the Alienware Alpha yet?

I've just gotten one for my household, but it's a Christmas present, so it's wrapped up and put away until December 25th. Issues aside in getting the recovery media, I'm keen to start messing around with this straight away.

The things I'm concerned about is keeping the HDMI in feature, and whether or not the Linux nVIDIA drivers even support the Alpha or not (as you can't use nVIDIA's drivers on Windows - you have to source drivers from Dell).
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Автор сообщения: Tchaki
That's bad... I don't know about Dell and alienware, but vendors tend to never update drivers...

I don't think Alienware intend to keep it that way. They're working with nVIDIA to get inclusion into the standard nVIDIA drivers - the only difference between Alienware's drivers and nVIDIA's drivers, is Alienware's drivers know the chip exists.

The actual driver software is still more or less the same.
The Alienware Alpha doesn't run on Steam OS. It runs on a slightly different version of Windows that automatically loads up Steam Big Picture. This allows the user to play Windows compatible games (Almost every game on Steam) on their Steam machine. The SteamOS version of Alienware's line of Steam Machines will be released when the OS is useable without problems for the average user.
Автор сообщения: momo
I don't think the Steam OS is even done yet, is it?
Отредактировано Websteroni; 29 ноя. 2014 г. в 22:59
Agreed, I highly doubt Alienware won't keep it's drivers updated for it's Steam machine.
Автор сообщения: Jaymz
Автор сообщения: Tchaki
That's bad... I don't know about Dell and alienware, but vendors tend to never update drivers...

I don't think Alienware intend to keep it that way. They're working with nVIDIA to get inclusion into the standard nVIDIA drivers - the only difference between Alienware's drivers and nVIDIA's drivers, is Alienware's drivers know the chip exists.

The actual driver software is still more or less the same.
The first alpha's will be shipping soon - that is same hardware but different controller and os.

Now why would somebody who just bought a new pc want to install another os when their new pc has a fully working functional desktop environment that is controller friendly as well as being able to use nvidia's gamestream (which allows streaming of pc games to an arm device like nvidia shield tablet) and shadowplay allowing easy uploading of gameplay capture to twitch or youtube with the choice of which mode you want the steam client to run in (bpm, normal or small) with the option of applying different skins to make for a fully customisable steam experience in the living room or anywhere else as well as Steam store giving much more familiar content. They want to use alpha as gaming console - click bpm button, you want to do pc stuff like surfing the web, check the emails or do some shopping - not a problem it just works. Superior gaming performance. It all their on one machine already and works ootb.
For me all this is reason to ask "why even think about steamos as a realistic alternative to currently available operating systems?." and "why is there not one confirmed linux distro "steam machine" version?

So the windows version alpha ships soon but do not forget the original steam box the xi3 piston is an already existing steam machine option as well the barebones brix version.
It is the steam client that defines a pc as a steam machine. Not the operating system it runs on nor the controller. All this steamos and steam controller makes a steam machine is regurgitated cod swallop.
Автор сообщения: Valve Announcement
Finally, a multiple choice answer
This in itself highlights steamos is one facet of steam machines. Steam hw survey reveals 95% of steam users are windows users. Does this mean windows version steam machines will out sell linux derivative 10:1?

I think purchasing a windows alpha and then a steam controller in 2016 or whenever they decide what version they are going to put intoo production is available would be a great combination for any pc user or any steam user.


Recovery Option Suggestion
One great thing about steamos is the clonezilla recovery partitions. clonezilla recovery image on an external removable drive even covers complete drive failure scenarios. http://clonezilla.org/liveusb.php
http://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/discussion/Clonezilla_live/thread/a293a954/?limit=25#4742

Another suggestion is register with AlienArena to keep up to date with news on the alpha. http://eu.alienwarearena.com/
Отредактировано Balderick; 1 дек. 2014 г. в 6:25
I'm going to stick with the Half-Life/Crysis model here and bet, within a few years, that anyone looking for high-end gaming experience is really only going to have SteamOS machines to choose from. These same users may or may not have desktop systems, but even if they do, they are not moving their PC from monitor to the television to play these games. As always, only the smallest percentage will have an adequate system in the first place, thus adding to the draw for a purpose-built gaming machine. If users don't have desktop systems (say just laptops and tablets using Google docs) they are never, ever going to buy a desktop PC solely for that experience.

Many people will still have Windows and many will be logged in with Windows. But when one of these face melters eventually drops, this aint gonna do!---> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/laptop/?q=laptops&ocid=Oneconspc_D_standard_PI_Bene_USA_WVLHPS11ONCSTD01
However, short of gaming, these little PCs probably do just about everything else rather handily. Between these and mobile devices, you can see very clearly the high-end game space being slowly parceled off, with the assumption being consoles would eventually pick up the slack.

I would be interested to see how many Alpha owners use any type of desktop applications on these machines. IMO, the difference between the 10-foot and 2-foot experience is pretty stark. Case in point, the only other app I use on my Windows XP install (in the Steambox) is a Chrome browser, mostly to watch video, and only because the SteamOS browser is so wonky. Other than that, it's just there to play Windows games. So, essentially, I have a fully featured Windows desktop OS - which I paid full price for way back when - just so I can play games. I don't know about you, but SteamOS math gets pretty easy from that point.

As for the most cherished, 144Hz, KB+M Master race, they seem to have been pretty well card for so far, whether or not they realize it. Their way of life could all go away very quickly if Valve wasn't doing what it has to preserve these gaming spaces.
Автор сообщения: Jaymz
Has anyone tried SteamOS on the Alienware Alpha yet?

I've just gotten one for my household, but it's a Christmas present, so it's wrapped up and put away until December 25th. Issues aside in getting the recovery media, I'm keen to start messing around with this straight away.

The things I'm concerned about is keeping the HDMI in feature, and whether or not the Linux nVIDIA drivers even support the Alpha or not (as you can't use nVIDIA's drivers on Windows - you have to source drivers from Dell).

SteamOS should work just fine on this box and it supports the HDMI in switching feature as well.
Автор сообщения: jvert
SteamOS should work just fine on this box and it supports the HDMI in switching feature as well.

Just got this up and running, and sure enough - everything works without a hitch! I'll install some stuff on it later, and see how it runs. :D

I didn't plug anything into the HDMI in port yet, due to running out of time to experiment on it. How does the HDMI in feature work? Is it an extra option, when something is plugged into it?
It should show up in the system menu when it is, yes; there are also color controls in the AlienFX settings menu for logged users.
Отредактировано Pierre-Loup; 4 дек. 2014 г. в 15:05
I just received my ALIEN ALPHA, and I am totally blown away by it. I got the full blown model and I am in STEAM HEAVEN. I have about 135 games on steam and now I can play them on my large(56") TV with no problem.
The quality of the unit is excellent.
I played FLASHOUT 2 for the first time on this and I was thrilled with the way it ran and the way it looked and sounded.
If you are a STEAM person, this is a must have .
Автор сообщения: Jaymz
Just got this up and running, and sure enough - everything works without a hitch! I'll install some stuff on it later, and see how it runs. :D

That is great! Congrats!

We need to figure out a way to gift/donate/trade/(mysteriously appear?) some recent AAA face melters for Jaymz to try at our behest, (if he's willing of course). Unfortunately, it looks like Metro: Last Light took a powder from the Linux store. Serious Sam 3: BFE maybe? That's pretty grueling on hardware.
Отредактировано NeptNutz; 5 дек. 2014 г. в 10:12
Автор сообщения: sandylustig
I just received my ALIEN ALPHA, and I am totally blown away by it. I got the full blown model and I am in STEAM HEAVEN. I have about 135 games on steam and now I can play them on my large(56") TV with no problem.
The quality of the unit is excellent.
I played FLASHOUT 2 for the first time on this and I was thrilled with the way it ran and the way it looked and sounded.
If you are a STEAM person, this is a must have .
I would wait for real Steam machines, but that's just me.
@sandylustig - I'm drooling!

Автор сообщения: Shark
I would wait for real Steam machines, but that's just me.

I would declare this as a solid win for Steam either way. It's exactly the type of market behavior that needs to keep high-end PC gaming in the forefront (where Steam lives), regardless the OS.

Alienware deserves recognition for this effort. It's an amazing little machine.
Отредактировано NeptNutz; 5 дек. 2014 г. в 10:14
Автор сообщения: NeptNutz
We need to figure out a way to gift/donate/trade/(mysteriously appear?) some recent AAA face melters for Jaymz to try at our behest, (if he's willing of course). Unfortunately, it looks like Metro: Last Light took a powder from the Linux store. Serious Sam 3: BFE maybe? That's pretty grueling on hardware.

I've got Borderlands 2? I can give that a bash and see how it goes.
The awesome thing about this machine, was that before it, I was trying to price together a sufficiently powerful Intel NUC box, that could at least stream games onto the TV with SteamOS, in addition to running Plex/XBMC.

The reason for ditching that and going with the Alpha instead, was the costs of a NUC system worked out to be exactly the same for the low end version of the Alpha, and would actually be worse in a lot of ways.

I was looking at eventually upgrading the hard drive and RAM, but from the performance of SteamOS on its own, I may not need to do that as soon as I thought.
Автор сообщения: Jaymz
The awesome thing about this machine, was that before it, I was trying to price together a sufficiently powerful Intel NUC box, that could at least stream games onto the TV with SteamOS, in addition to running Plex/XBMC.

The reason for ditching that and going with the Alpha instead, was the costs of a NUC system worked out to be exactly the same for the low end version of the Alpha, and would actually be worse in a lot of ways.

I was looking at eventually upgrading the hard drive and RAM, but from the performance of SteamOS on its own, I may not need to do that as soon as I thought.

You are not alone. This author tries to PC Part Pick against the Alpha.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2850889/alienware-alpha-review-a-shockingly-good-tiny-pc-and-console-complement.html

The Steam Machine economics are already starting to come into focus.
Отредактировано NeptNutz; 11 дек. 2014 г. в 11:09
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