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[XÆЯO_Vince]

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[gibblets]

I think you have your primary and secondary confused. It sounds like Windows is your host OS and Linux is your VM - that would make Windows the primary. Just because Windows is headless doesn't make it a secondary OS if the NT kernel is the primary kernel running.

[NeptNutz]

Keep up the good work, XÆЯO!

As much as I'd like to add to this, I'm just too swamped right now to contribute. :-(

[gibblets]

Originally posted by XÆЯO_Vince:

Originally posted by gibblets:

I think you have your primary and secondary confused. It sounds like Windows is your host OS and Linux is your VM - that would make Windows the primary. Just because Windows is headless doesn't make it a secondary OS if the NT kernel is the primary kernel running.

Not confused. Technically you're correct. However, I've developed several scripts that make the end result of the VM becoming the primary user facing OS.

Basically the system boots into Windows with only bare essential startup services but right after logging in, a startup script launches a Windows SSH server, terminates the Windows shell, then restores a VMware VM snapshot image in full-screen. VMware is configured here to not show any VM toolbars in full-screen and the SSH client (sshpass) with my script wrapper is used to channel program launch commands to the Windows host's SSH server, so that windowed Windows applications can be opened from within Linux VM desktop, including Windows Steam and full-screen Windows games.

That still doesn't make Windows the secondary OS. It just means you're running your VM in a full screen shell. As far as performance benchmarking goes this is more relevant to people using Linux VMs versus native Linux.

[Balderick]

I saw your other recent posts talking about GPU pass through and VM and so went searching the web for where to start.

After spending a bit of time trying to work out how to set reference bench marks I realised just running windows to run desktop apps natively should be the reference bench mark. No VM, no GPU oassthroughs and no unnecessary layers but an ootb windows experience fully updated with latest steam and gpu drivers.


How does your vming benchmarks compare to a fully updated windows install running latest steam builds with latest gou drivers reference benchmark using the same physical hardware?

[Balderick]

Still really interested in what you are describing but agree with gibblets that windows is your primary os.

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Change

OS
Primary: Antergos Linux x64 (Full-Screen VMware VM Guest)
Secondary: Windows 10 1703 x64 (Headless / No shell running)

to something more like

Desktop Environment
Primary: gnome

I simply do not understand how you describe a virtual install of antegros to a modified windows physical install makes antegros your primary os.


Searching further on latest vmware projects I find dell have added VMware support, to provide cloud based services allowing employees and end users to use very low powered hardware to access virtual high spec hardware to run virtual applications that their local physical hardware is simply not capable of running.

GeForce Now for Shield users is a brilliant example of how android device users have full access to a physical gtx 1080 powered virtual windows install located in data centers (non local) to run PC games at gaming spec without owning a gaming spec PC.

This is all thanks to nvidia and their partners work on developing virtual desktops and virtual applications.

The new Volta powered virtual machines located in data centers along with Nvidias vDWS is absolutely amazing, truly bleeding edge tech bringing huge advantages.

Ref: http://www.zdnet.com/article/nvidia-launches-virtual-workstation-software-aims-for-compute-intensive-workloads/

However I do not see any advantage being gained in what you are describing doing to your windows install using VMware.


To me gnome de just looks really outdated somehow.

How is your virtual antegros install displaying images?
If you have KB + m, game controllers and a display/s connected to your physical hardware it is not headless.
If windows kernel is running virtual antegros then your primary os is windows, albeit you are not using the default desktop environment at all.

Does you using antegros desktop environment instead of windows desktop environment just mean you need use wine to access your favourite steam games?


I think you are wasting a windows licemse and your time. Cloud based virtual machines bringing huge gains in what local hardware can achieve is a good reason to use VMware.


The real question here is, where does steamos fit into all of this?

My guess is standalone vr head mounted consoles ...

[Balderick]

Thanks for explaining the benefits.