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Kaldaien Apr 12, 2019 @ 6:20pm
Special K - v 0.10.3 - [HDR stuff probably]
What's New? (Current Test Build :: 0.10.3)


I've opted to add a new form of frametime analysis to Special K's framepacing graph.
    The old data (which still remains), was based on higher-level statistics and standard deviation; an uncommon representation of data not easily understood or comparable to expected benchmark performance and limited to a very small sample window of 120 frames. In short, it was useful to me for performance optimization and analysis but those numbers had no meaning to anyone else!
      Fun bit of trivia, however, the color of the framepacing graph is based entirely on the standard deviation.

What are Percentiles and Why Should I care?

To put it simply, when we speak of frametime percentiles, we mean either the bottom N-% or top N-% performing frames recorded. Since I don't care about high framerates and only care about stuttering, Special K's analysis focuses on the low percentiles.

    When numbers like "10% Low FPS" are being thrown about, it's another way of saying 90% of all frames drawn were faster than xyz FPS.

Common numbers used for frametime analysis are 10% / 1% and 1% / 0.1%.

It is my strong belief that 1% / 0.1% is not appropriate for measuring and tweaking game performance. 1% / .1% should be reserved only for people publishing benchmark scores because that's really all they're good for :P

    I would suggest configuring the framepacing widget manually and selecting something more reasonable such as 5% / 0.5% or even 10% / 1%, but it is pre-configured for 1% and 0.1% since this is the most common percentile ranking published in online reviews of games.

How large is the dataset used?
There are two different datasets for percentile analysis.

There's one that keeps track of the last 1,000 frames and then there's an even longer-term one that gets a summary of all 1,000 frames every time the short-term history fills up with data. Effectively this gives a 1,000,000 frame history and that ought to be enough for anybody :P

    If you're trying to find optimal in-game settings, I suggest focusing on the smaller 1,000 frame history. That's at least 8 seconds worth of data even at 144 Hz.

Conclusion
Knowing what this new feature is designed to measure (how poorly the worst-performing part of the game is performing), you should be able to use it to find the perfect set of graphics settings that keeps the two percentile charts in the green. Failing the ability to find any settings in-game that stop stuttering, you can always fallback to Special K's framerate limiter.
Last edited by Kaldaien; Jun 6, 2020 @ 4:40am
Originally posted by Aemony:
The new discussion forum, http://special-k.info/, is now up and running with working mail notifications as well. Feel free to sign up for an account there if anyone want -- it's the only place to reach Kaldaien right now. We still haven't landed on what categories to set up and such, but that will probably be figured out soon enough.
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[SK] Kaldaien Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:13am 
Be back in a year; it's been nice talking to you all.

https://imgur.com/a/x9c1VEC
Fayaine Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by SK Kaldaien:
Be back in a year; it's been nice talking to you all.

https://imgur.com/a/x9c1VEC

Wtf don't tell me these bans actually have to do with publishing and releasing Special K
JBeckman Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:22am 
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/07/24/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-19042-421-20h2/

19042.421 is out as a beta (Formerly slow ring.) branch update.

Interestingly it's a cumulative update similar to 19H2 rather than a full build.
(For that it's this one which I suppose is just the latest anything for the OS now? https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/07/22/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-20175/ )

EDIT: Oh right it's not the fast ring either anymore it's the dev ring.
Last edited by JBeckman; Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:25am
[SK] Kaldaien Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:23am 
No.

Some troll was talking about different "types of trans people" and I mentioned "trans fat" people, because the whole conversation was silly. But that doesn't matter, I'm clearly a biggot.

I can't publish release notes now, so this does effectively put an end to stuff.
GPUnity Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:24am 
Originally posted by SK Kaldaien:
Be back in a year; it's been nice talking to you all.

https://imgur.com/a/x9c1VEC
Ouch. That explains why Special K didn't pass. Wonder if you can transfer publishing rights to Aemony (best person to trust) and see if it gets approved then.

I know this is bringing back year old discussions, but you may want to consider just setting up a site for Special K. Maybe now it seems worth trying?
GPUnity Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:26am 
Originally posted by GPUnity:
Originally posted by SK Kaldaien:
Be back in a year; it's been nice talking to you all.

https://imgur.com/a/x9c1VEC
Ouch. That explains why Special K didn't pass. Wonder if you can transfer publishing rights to Aemony (best person to trust) and see if it gets approved then.

I know this is bringing back year old discussions, but you may want to consider just setting up a site for Special K. Maybe now it seems worth trying?
Similarly to what Reshade and Gshade do, and those guys seem peaceful af and don't worry about bans or waiting for approval.
[SK] Kaldaien Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:29am 
I wasn't joking about trans people. Trans fat is nutrition.

Moderators are so fucking stupid, I want to scream some times.
Last edited by [SK] Kaldaien; Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:30am
GPUnity Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:30am 
Originally posted by JBeckman:
That sounds like a recent ban but it postpones current developments I'd imagine for as long as it's in effect.

Also don't joke about trans anything it's kinda a big thing and doesn't work at all so I'm not surprised that it led to a ban but it's unfortunate as it then stacks on top of the prior ban(s) and escalated it to a years time out.
Woke generation where no one's allowed to say potentially offensive opinions cos feelings, but no one cares to do something about all the child trafficking that happens in literally every country :P
Erebus Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:30am 
Originally posted by JBeckman:
That sounds like a recent ban but it postpones current developments I'd imagine for as long as it's in effect.

Also don't joke about trans anything it's kinda a big thing and doesn't work at all so I'm not surprised that it led to a ban but it's unfortunate as it then stacks on top of the prior ban(s) and escalated it to a years time out.



EDIT: Not that I'm following social developments well if at all but it's huge and a very sensitive issue since some years back I think now.
Because in current year everyone's personal problems become everyone elses' problems [because reasons] and no one can take a joke.
Aemony Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:31am 
Originally posted by SK Kaldaien:
I can't publish release notes now, so this does effectively put an end to stuff.

Is it updating the depot itself you cannot do, or just publish new events?

Because publishing events on the Steam hub I seem to be able to do (only set up an unpublished test event atm): https://steamcommunity.com/games/1157970/partnerevents/
Fayaine Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:31am 
Originally posted by Erebus:
Originally posted by JBeckman:
That sounds like a recent ban but it postpones current developments I'd imagine for as long as it's in effect.

Also don't joke about trans anything it's kinda a big thing and doesn't work at all so I'm not surprised that it led to a ban but it's unfortunate as it then stacks on top of the prior ban(s) and escalated it to a years time out.



EDIT: Not that I'm following social developments well if at all but it's huge and a very sensitive issue since some years back I think now.
Because in current year everyone's personal problems become everyone elses' problems [because reasons] and no one can take a joke.

Yep sadly... im trans myself idm a joke here and there tbh but some people really need some thiccer skin like holy. Can't say shit in 2020 anymore everything is an offense.
[SK] Kaldaien Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:34am 
Originally posted by Aemony:
Originally posted by SK Kaldaien:
I can't publish release notes now, so this does effectively put an end to stuff.

Is it updating the depot itself you cannot do, or just publish new events?

Because publishing events on the Steam hub I seem to be able to do (only set up an unpublished test event atm): https://steamcommunity.com/games/1157970/partnerevents/
The news events. I can still publish patches, but they need release notes... so there's not much point to that.
Aemony Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:36am 
Originally posted by SK Kaldaien:
Originally posted by Aemony:

Is it updating the depot itself you cannot do, or just publish new events?

Because publishing events on the Steam hub I seem to be able to do (only set up an unpublished test event atm): https://steamcommunity.com/games/1157970/partnerevents/
The news events. I can still publish patches, but they need release notes... so there's not much point to that.

Hmm?

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1157970/announcements/detail/2725192423446603965

I can post event updates? I don't understand why you wouldn't be able to do so.
Fayaine Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:39am 
Originally posted by Aemony:
Originally posted by SK Kaldaien:
The news events. I can still publish patches, but they need release notes... so there's not much point to that.

Hmm?

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1157970/announcements/detail/2725192423446603965

I can post event updates? I don't understand why you wouldn't be able to do so.

That one doesn't appear for me on my Libary as news tho.
Shows up in the community section but Kal's meaning the publishing to the Libary Section as an Update i believe.
Last edited by Fayaine; Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:40am
Aemony Jul 25, 2020 @ 10:41am 
Originally posted by Fayaine:
Originally posted by Aemony:

Hmm?

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1157970/announcements/detail/2725192423446603965

I can post event updates? I don't understand why you wouldn't be able to do so.

That one doesn't appear for me on my Libary as news tho

Probably just a matter of not being pushed through the ecosystem yet, as the update appears in the newshub and is accessible even to guest visitors.

Modern web applications don't work in an instant -- it sometimes takes hours for changes to be pushed out and replicated to all modules and systems.
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