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Originalmente postado por mac10smg, Toa of Green:
Wow, I'm really talkative today.

Yay.

Originalmente postado por mac10smg, Toa of Green:
1. Can you please define 'Modern transgenderism' for the class?

I did define it as being distinctly separate from the form of transgenderism which existed in ancient civilizations and was considered a mental illness only until recently circa 2019.

However, I can easily clarify. Modern transgenderism is the activism based on identity politics because their identity is more important than any other societal issue.

Originalmente postado por mac10smg, Toa of Green:
Because the way you said it makes it sound like a set of vapid buzz words with no meaning other than to elicit a reaction.

When you make a fallacious statement like that trying to weaponize my terminology it just doesn't work because you're misusing it in a situation where it isn't applicable.

I did define modern transgenderism previously, but you are yet to make a single argument and have not really done anything except express vapid and vacuous platitudes.

You still haven't made a single argument btw.

Originalmente postado por mac10smg, Toa of Green:
2. Dude, being trans is not a choice. You can't 'choose' to be trans. Nothing else, just wanted to establish that.

You wanted to establish an untrue assertion because...? Everything about human behavior and personality pertains to choice.

If someone decides to forgo help and enable a condition as opposed to treating it then that very much is a choice.

Originalmente postado por mac10smg, Toa of Green:
3. I'll ignore the obvious negative connotation of calling being trans a mental disorder.

So you're going to ignore historical fact. Got it.

Originalmente postado por mac10smg, Toa of Green:
and follow up with asking how you would propose to 'treat it' other than them doing what they already do, i.e. hormones and the od affirmation surgery (which, fun fact, not every trans person seeks out).

If a biological male is experiencing gender dysphoria it is probably due to a chemical imbalance in the brain which means they have too estrogen in their system as it is.

The way to treat it is to put them on estrogen blockers and balance their testosterone with the same levels as the average male of the same age, weight and similar body type.

I promise you any feelings of femininity will stop. In fact it has already been documented.

Originalmente postado por mac10smg, Toa of Green:
4. Ambivalence in terms of people's right to exist isn't a good sign, just saying.

First, it needs to be established that is not a right. A person's gender identity is not a right. Their sexual orientation and preferences are not rights. Being trans is not a right.

Second, the majority of the people - who are not criminals and obey the law - are not trying to prevent trans people from living out their gender identities.

Originalmente postado por mac10smg, Toa of Green:
5. What propaganda?
The propaganda -
  • The false claim that transgenderism is a right and that trans people are being denied the ability to live their lives the way they want.
  • The idea that trans people are somehow oppressed in modern times when in fact they have become a government protected group.
  • The claim that if parents would condone and enable their kids being trans that suicide rates would go down, but statistical data shows quite the opposite.
  • The fact that not a single disingenuous activist or anyone in the leftist mainstream media will not talk about the large number of detransitioners and pretend those people don't exist because it's inconvenient to their narrative.

The unjustifiable activism -
  • That biological males should be allowed to compete against biological females in competitive sports involving feats of strength despite the men having numerous physiological advantages and we have repeatedly seen the women be injured due to the disparaging differences in strength levels.
  • The idea we need to teach alternative adult lifestyles to minors who don't have an understanding of sexuality and haven't even undergone puberty yet.
  • The idea of not wanting pre-pubescent minors attending sexualized pride parades and drag shows where people are engaging in public sex acts and there is public nudity is a form of soft bigotry and strangely oppressive to LGBTQ people.
  • The idea that a kid can stop taking puberty blockers and their body will resume the puberty process or undergo a "second puberty" which is propaganda not based in any legitimate scientific or medical truth and is simply not how the human body works.

    Would you like me to continue?

    Originalmente postado por mac10smg, Toa of Green:
    6. Brianna Ghey, for a recent example. I'll let you look that up because thinking about it any further makes me sick to my stomach.

    I looked it up and that doesn't fit the criteria for something happening against a trans person for "no reason at all". The killers had their reasons.

    So you don't understand the machinations of human behavior, that much is obvious, but I assure you no human act is entirely arbitrary.

    Originalmente postado por mac10smg, Toa of Green:
    7. Ad Homenim...you literally just reiterated what they said. Semantics will be the death of conversation, I swear.

    I reiterated the literal definition of ad hominem from the dictionary since you didn't seem to get it the first time. Disingenuous convolution is the death of conversation.

    Originalmente postado por mac10smg, Toa of Green:
    8. Wikipedia 'aint the bastion of dishonesty your 3rd grade teacher said it was.

    I'm Gen X so wikipedia wasn't around when I was in the third grade.

    No one told me that it was a bastion of dishonesty, it proved itself through to be just that with the actions of dishonest contributors and a really bad track record.

    Originalmente postado por mac10smg, Toa of Green:
    They have a full list of their sources per page that can be perused at your leisure, it's actually quite nice and has helped me with a lot of writings and essays over the years.

    And anybody can create a contributor account to login and wreck an article full of dishonest information and bias at any time. Sometimes the sources are not credible either.

    I'll stick to the traditional encyclopedias where the information has been vetted and cross referenced before being published.

    9. 'Biology is real' is such a non-argument. Yeah, trans people know biology is real...THAT'S WHY THEY ADJUST THEIR BIOLOGY TO THEIR COMFORT. Jeez.
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So you're delusional. It's not possible to "adjust" your genetics or your chromosomes, no matter how much estrogen you pump into your body that Y chromosome will not go away.

Biology is real is a valid argument because your biology is an immutable characteristic. A male can castrate himself and will still be male.
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