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KillahInstinct 2 giu 2022, ore 11:57
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Goodbye (from all volunteer Steam moderators)
We, the volunteer Steam moderators, are being retired starting tomorrow.

What started as a fairly small company with less than 1 million users on the old forums (SPUF), and a tight knit community, comes to an end on the 'new' forums - more akin to the size of Twitter and in no way comparable.

It was a long time coming, we were never really able to keep up with all the reports and help was needed. Valve added paid moderators along the way and outsourced it like they did with Steam Support, which at this scale (sadly) is the only way to moderate. Valve feels confident that the path forward is solely with paid moderators they feel they must retire the volunteer moderation program and thanked us for our services. Each game is also still free to have their own moderators.

We acted as a liaison already in most recent years, albeit most of us where already retired or simply plain inactive, as employees left and changed and the way Valve undertakes things did to.

On the bright side, at least there won't be any complaints about who handed out a ban anymore, although I have already seen conspiracies that we are actually Support agents too ;)

We want to thank all of you for your support and the trust you put in us to moderate this platform and make things better for everyone, and the help we were able to provide as a result. We all have some unforgettable moments we will carry with us and will still be providing feedback to moderators and other hubs.
Ultima modifica da KillahInstinct; 2 giu 2022, ore 12:46
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Thank you for all the good work all the years.
In my honest opinion you were the best steam moderator so far.
I can't imagine how someone else could do it better and missed you already the last time (i've noticed less activity in the past), it's really sad.
You pushed this community in the right direction and i'm now scared about the future of this (steam-forum) community.

However i wish you all the best and good luck with your live.

Also to all the other moderators, thank you!


♥️
Messaggio originale di ShelLuser:
Messaggio originale di KillahInstinct:
I think you've a very wrong idea of what it is what moderation is all about. It was mostly about helping people, not banning them.
With all due respect.. I tend to agree with you but at the same time you can't say nor shouldn't imply (edit: ok, after re-reading that's my bad!) that this never happened. I found myself community banned for reasons I still don't understand (also because they were never shared with me) and when I spoke up about it through proper channels it got almost immediately reversed by Steam support.

It's been several years... not sure what to make of that.
Yeah, that's an odd one - I'm fairly sure with more time I could dig deeper but the moderator that handed out that ban is gone for today and by tomorrow our rights are gone.

I would imagine that was a mis-click - sadly we never really had the tools to do proper moderation (like undo a community ban, or select multiple post - and other things that make moderation very cumbersome and more prone to the (very occasional) error).
Thanks for all your hard work over the years.
It feels kind of strange reading this, in a way. Thanks for all your hard work after all this time.
This is just my opinion, but I think it shows very bad taste on Valve's part to give you guys such short notice on when your mod powers will be removed.

But I guess considering how you have expressed how you feel about some of the changes around here (and I agree), it should come as no surprise.

Not cool, Valve. :steamthumbsdown:
Messaggio originale di The Giving One:
This is just my opinion, but I think it shows very bad taste on Valve's part to give you guys such short notice on when your mod powers will be removed.

But I guess considering how you have expressed how you feel about some of the changes around here (and I agree), it should come as no surprise.

Not cool, Valve. :steamthumbsdown:

I am surprised we got ANY notice, honestly. The fact we were told just shows how much they trusted us. Most places would have revoked, then notified the volunteers, with worries that they may abuse the tools before leaving.
Ultima modifica da Spawn of Totoro; 2 giu 2022, ore 15:16
Messaggio originale di Spawn of Totoro:
I am surprised we got ANY notice, honestly. The fact we were told just shows how much they trusted us. Most places would have revoked, then notified the volunteers, with worries that they may abuse the tools before leaving.
You make a good point. See ? It's replies like this that are insightful to set us (me) straight that are really going to be missed the most. LOL
:steamhappy:

Thanks, good Spawn.
Ultima modifica da The Giving One; 2 giu 2022, ore 15:18
Messaggio originale di Spawn of Totoro:
I am surprised we got ANY notice, honestly. The fact we were told just shows how much they trusted us. Most places would have revoked, then notified the volunteers, with worries that they may abuse the tools before leaving.
Fair point. Now on to banning everyone left and right.. or wait we already used to do that according to some ;)
Ultima modifica da KillahInstinct; 2 giu 2022, ore 15:18
Messaggio originale di KillahInstinct:
Fair point. Now on to banning everyone left and right.. or wait we already used to do that according to some ;)
Hey, I see what you did there. Nicely done. :steammocking:
Thanks for all the hard work. We will miss you.

:gilga:
What a crazy unexpected message! For me there is just so much history attached to the moderators and SPUF days. The whole task of moderation sadly was not really the same after the old Steam forums (SPUF) were replaced, it was a much different and more tightly-knit atmosphere back then.

Unfortunately Valve really never realized the potentials of the Steam Discussions. I know it may sound crazy, but Valve missed the boat and Steam was largely replaced by Reddit and Discord. Valve never improved the group chats with basic functionalities that would have made them actually useful and people looked for a replacement until Discord came along.

And the Steam Discussions feel more like an old-school vBulletin board that is not meant for a large, international multi-lingual platform like Steam. If you think about it, most people who want to talk about the nitty-gritty details of any game or just share memes, videos and hold discussions now visit the appropriate subreddit of that game. That's where communities go nowadays, not the Steam Discussion board.

I still hope that Valve changes anything about this but I think with the implementation of professional moderators, the Steam Discussion board will mostly turn out to be a place you go to discuss technical issues rather than actually interact with the community. I would not mind a total overhaul of the forums and the chat but at this point I don't see it happening anymore, at least not anytime soon.

Either way, thanks to all the other (ex-)mods, it was cool hanging out with you back in the day, see ya around!
Ultima modifica da Tim; 2 giu 2022, ore 15:24
Thanks to you Tim!
Here is a question.....

Will this thread stay open and pinned after you guys have your powers removed ? So you know.........mods that maybe missed the chance can still post and thanks be given by regular users also ?
Messaggio originale di The Giving One:
Here is a question.....

Will this thread stay open and pinned after you guys have your powers removed ? So you know.........mods that maybe missed the chance can still post and thanks be given by regular users also ?
I sure hope so but that will be out of my control. I've a suspicion paid moderators have been instructed to be lenient for a day, maybe a few, but after that it's back to business.

But it's also entirely possible that the pinned thread will simply be forgotten, the non-volunteers generally just work based on reports. And reports have a few ways of being broken and never actually reaching the support staff ;)
Messaggio originale di KillahInstinct:
I sure hope so but that will be out of my control. I've a suspicion paid moderators have been instructed to be lenient for a day, maybe a few, but after that it's back to business.

But it's also entirely possible that the pinned thread will simply be forgotten, the non-volunteers generally just work based on reports. And reports have a few ways of being broken and never actually reaching the support staff ;)
Thank you so much for the answer. I don't mean to ask even more of you guys, or you Killah, but if you get the chance and it gets closed, PLEASE tell other users that were mods that we appreciate everything......and I mean everything for all the years they helped out around here and we hope the best for them and to see them in the Community still ?
Ultima modifica da The Giving One; 2 giu 2022, ore 15:34
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