Youtube Monetization / Let's Play friendly developer/publisher tag?

[The Foot In His Mouth]

It's such a wide-spread concept, yet still incredibly difficult to identify what developers are OK with Youtube content creators placing ads for monetization on their uploaded videos of their content. I feel like a new tag or description next to the "Single-Player, Controller Support, etc" on the right would be incredibly helpful in identifying what developers are OK with it.

My thought is that there should be 1 of 3 tags that developers/publishers could add to their Steam Store page:
1) Youtube Ad Monetization OK
2) Youtube OK / Ad Monetization Not OK
3) Youtube/Monetization OK

For example, Frictional Games is very much OK with Youtubers uploading gameplay/Let's Play videos of them playing Amnesia, and they are OK with monetizing through ad revenue as well, so the tag on both Amnesia games would read "Youtube Ad Monetization OK".

On the other end, WB Games is OK with Let's Play videos, but not with monetizing through ads, so the tag on the Arkham and Mortal Kombat games would read "Youtube OK" or "Ad Monetization Not OK".

Even further down the spectrum we have Telltale Games that, because their games are primarily story driven similar to a movie or novel, are in general not OK with video uploads to Youtube at all, so their tag would read "Youtube/Monetization Not OK" in red.

I do hope Valve reads these.

[Black Blade]

I do agree with the idea
Over all for now i my self turn to the Dev site, and look what it says, many of them, have, or add later on, some area to tell users if there ok or not with these

Some ask you to turn to them to ask for it
I have a few i message and got a Greenlight and some that did not agree for it

But i do think that allowing that in the search, maybe also adding the area that says if you allowed or not, on the store page, may be better for all users so they be easyer to find these games
And for the Devs to not have to answer support tickets abut it, as it will give a stranded locasin for it

For now these may help:
http://letsplaylist.wikia.com/wiki/%22Let%27s_Play%22-friendly_developers_Wiki

[wuddih]

by default your are not allowed to do anything of what you mentioned and a dev would be stupid as ♥♥♥♥ to drop any of their legal possibilies right at the customers purchase of the product. so this won't happen.

if you earn money with other people created work you ask the creator for a written legal permission, period.
let's plays are everything else then freedom of the press or a review or anything under fair use act. you show of a big portion of the game, in case of telltale you basically showing an interactive movie-esque game, that makes it redundant for some people to buy the game because they already "played it". it is very generous of them to generally allow unmonetized videos but they just do it that way because otherwise it would create a poopstorm.

even effin nintendo gave up with their takedowns of videos.

[The Foot In His Mouth]

I don't disagree. The problem lies in the fact that many developers don't respond to permission requests at all, which can be incredibly hard to deal with in the case of big name developers and games that come out. Also, many devs have a blanket "OK" or "Not OK" policy statement posted on their website, which is fine and dandy as well. But there are still many MANY developers not giving statements or postings at all, which can lead to confusion and misunderstanding when someone does post a video on Youtube, monetized or not.

The discussion here is not whether or not developers and publishers should allow Youtubers to monetize off their videos. I was merely suggesting that there be a tag or description on the Store pages that would allow developers and publishers who DO want to make their policies clear to do so. That way there's not confusion, and Youtube content creators don't get their videos flagged when they thought that it would be OK to post Let's Plays or what-have-you.

[Tux]

I think anyone who has a problem with youtubers throwing ads around and making money off of it should spend an afternoon on Yahoo just to get a measure of perspective.

adds are fine, embded add after emded add with false news stories that loop untill your machine dies (Yahoo) not ok.

[Ishan451]

Автор сообщения: The Foot In His Mouth

It's such a wide-spread concept, yet still incredibly difficult to identify what developers are OK with Youtube content creators placing ads for monetization on their uploaded videos of their content. I feel like a new tag or description next to the "Single-Player, Controller Support, etc" on the right would be incredibly helpful in identifying what developers are OK with it.

Its not that difficult to identify. Simple because if you plan to make money off of it, you better have contacted them and have written consent for it on your email. Its incredibly foolish and silly to rely on a 3rd or even 4th party to 'give consent'.

A tag at a gamestore or even a sentence in their FAQ is not enough to cover your arse and can be changed on a whim by the developer or publisher. And then they can simply send out a bunch of copy right strikes and you have NOTHING to oppose it, because they removed the evidence.

So do yourself a favor, if you want to make money with it, actually act like a responsible person and get yourself written consent. Its the only thing covering your behind.

[Sparse Dunes]

Автор сообщения: Ishan451

A tag at a gamestore or even a sentence in their FAQ is not enough to cover your arse and can be changed on a whim by the developer or publisher. And then they can simply send out a bunch of copy right strikes and you have NOTHING to oppose it, because they removed the evidence.

[CaptainCassianAndor]

Bump :) Dont youtube but I think its a great idea...

[Glendin ThePackrat]

Автор сообщения: Ishan451

Автор сообщения: The Foot In His Mouth

It's such a wide-spread concept, yet still incredibly difficult to identify what developers are OK with Youtube content creators placing ads for monetization on their uploaded videos of their content. I feel like a new tag or description next to the "Single-Player, Controller Support, etc" on the right would be incredibly helpful in identifying what developers are OK with it.

Its not that difficult to identify. Simple because if you plan to make money off of it, you better have contacted them and have written consent for it on your email. Its incredibly foolish and silly to rely on a 3rd or even 4th party to 'give consent'.

A tag at a gamestore or even a sentence in their FAQ is not enough to cover your arse and can be changed on a whim by the developer or publisher. And then they can simply send out a bunch of copy right strikes and you have NOTHING to oppose it, because they removed the evidence.

So do yourself a favor, if you want to make money with it, actually act like a responsible person and get yourself written consent. Its the only thing covering your behind.

I agree with you, and in a perfect world it would work this way. But I have sent hundreds of emails to game publishers requesting YouTube copyright monetization consent, to have no answer. They must trashcan these type of emails immediately.
Having a page on the publisher's website giving copyright monetization consent is the next best thing. And you are right. They can change it at any time. YouTube and game publishers, treat YouTube game content providers like lepers. I pour my heart out into my YouTube gaming website because it's what I love to do. I wish YouTube and the game publishers would stop treating us like something they need to scrape off their shoe.

[Ishan451]

Автор сообщения: Glendin ThePackrat

But I have sent hundreds of emails to game publishers requesting YouTube copyright monetization consent, to have no answer. They must trashcan these type of emails immediately.

Which is why you put in a bit of effort and build relations to someone inside that company personally and not just send it to their business address.

The thing is... its your business, and you shouldn't rely on their website or even worse a third party website like Steam to protect you from possible legal reprecussions.

If you want to put a lot of effort into your video gaming channel, then you need to make sure it cannot be taken away from you with copy right strikes. And the only way to do that is to have written permission.

If necessary, send them a formal request via Snailmail. Maybe add a fruit basket to the snailmail if its really important. People are sure to remember you and you might get a business contact out of it.. maybe even get some review copies.

[The Holy Chicken Overlord]

Автор сообщения: Glendin ThePackrat

Автор сообщения: Ishan451

Its not that difficult to identify. Simple because if you plan to make money off of it, you better have contacted them and have written consent for it on your email. Its incredibly foolish and silly to rely on a 3rd or even 4th party to 'give consent'.

A tag at a gamestore or even a sentence in their FAQ is not enough to cover your arse and can be changed on a whim by the developer or publisher. And then they can simply send out a bunch of copy right strikes and you have NOTHING to oppose it, because they removed the evidence.

So do yourself a favor, if you want to make money with it, actually act like a responsible person and get yourself written consent. Its the only thing covering your behind.

I agree with you, and in a perfect world it would work this way. But I have sent hundreds of emails to game publishers requesting YouTube copyright monetization consent, to have no answer. They must trashcan these type of emails immediately.
Having a page on the publisher's website giving copyright monetization consent is the next best thing. And you are right. They can change it at any time. YouTube and game publishers, treat YouTube game content providers like lepers. I pour my heart out into my YouTube gaming website because it's what I love to do. I wish YouTube and the game publishers would stop treating us like something they need to scrape off their shoe.

Begone, you vile Necromancer!

[Profile]

I think you freeloaders should just stop using other peoples' content for your own gains, or pay royalties and license costs as required.

[Duckilous]

Автор сообщения: Profile

I think you freeloaders should just stop using other peoples' content for your own gains, or pay royalties and license costs as required.

Friendly reminder that there's a big difference between inspiration and plagiarism.

[Normand64]

Автор сообщения: Profile

I think you freeloaders should just stop using other peoples' content for your own gains, or pay royalties and license costs as required.

Fair Use exists

[ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ]

Youtube monetization is the worst thing to ever exist.