Account resale is out of control

[76561197963519852]

I was checking the many, many websites showing accounts for sale.

To my surprise, I came across a "pro" CS2 account that has actual "Major Medals" for sale.

I also came across someone selling a bulk of 500x CS2 prime accounts for pennies compared to a Prime account.

When is Valve going to do something?

There is at least 20x websites doing this. It's obviously very profitable considering the amount doing it and the giant inventory they have.

It's totally tainted the player base because you can't trust literally ANYONE if the can spoof all the credentials that make an account look legit.

Please, guys, do something about this.

UPDATE 3/26/24: Here is from my latest match in CS2 with at least 8 out of 10 players on bought accounts: https://streamable.com/lx78g7

[Brian9824]

Valve does lock the accounts but the websites are in other countries and Valve can't really shut them down.

[TGC> The Games Collector]

Originally posted by brian9824:

Valve does lock the accounts but the websites are in other countries and Valve can't really shut them down.

Al they can do is the same as us, file a report and hope whoever's responsible for cleaning it up will get to it sometime.

[nullable]

Valve is not the internet police. They have limited control over harebrained things users are determined to do. And they don't control websites the world over just because their store is well known and successful.

Even if Valve gets a few sites taken down, all the rest will still exist, including new ones that pop up all the time. It's not a fair fight. And you being oblivious to that doesn't mean Valve isn't doing anything. It just means you don't understand the scope of the problem.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

I saw an Etsy seller that made $100,000 within 8 months selling Steam accounts.

These are sharing accounts and the funniest thing is that the Steam account is named literally after the Etsy sellers store.

$5 access to top games like Cyberpunk.

Valve won't close them down even if they are localized.

[76561197963519852]

Originally posted by nullable:

Valve is not the internet police. They have limited control over harebrained things users are determined to do. And they don't control websites the world over just because their store is well known and successful.

Even if Valve gets a few sites taken down, all the rest will still exist, including new ones that pop up all the time. It's not a fair fight. And you being oblivious to that doesn't mean Valve isn't doing anything. It just means you don't understand the scope of the problem.

You're basically making excuses for a company that has billions of dollars to not enforce their own policies because .... "they're not the internet police"

Um, no, as a customer I expect them to spend that money to enforce their own rules.

What is going on right now is totally unacceptable.

[76561197963519852]

Originally posted by Cosa Nostra:

I saw an Etsy seller that made $100,000 within 8 months selling Steam accounts.

These are sharing accounts and the funniest thing is that the Steam account is named literally after the Etsy sellers store.

$5 access to top games like Cyberpunk.

Yup, it's "piracy" in its latest form.

[nullable]

Originally posted by redacted:

Originally posted by nullable:

Valve is not the internet police. They have limited control over harebrained things users are determined to do. And they don't control websites the world over just because their store is well known and successful.

Even if Valve gets a few sites taken down, all the rest will still exist, including new ones that pop up all the time. It's not a fair fight. And you being oblivious to that doesn't mean Valve isn't doing anything. It just means you don't understand the scope of the problem.

You're basically making excuses for a company that has billions of dollars to not enforce their own policies because .... "they're not the internet police"

No. There's just limits to what they can do with the problem.

They can't stop you from thinking about the subject. They can't stop you from making a deal with another person and handing over your credentials. And they don't control all the other websites on the Internet. You wanting to ignore those details because you find them inconvenient doesn't change reality.

Originally posted by redacted:

Um, no, as a customer I expect them to spend that money to enforce their own rules.

They do. But the reach and enforcement of their rules has severe limits. Your inability to grasp that isn't Valve's problem.

Originally posted by redacted:

What is going on right now is totally unacceptable.

I'm sure Valve doesn't like it either. But since they're not the Internet police there's limits to what they can do, like it or not.

[76561199540158642]

its a scam those accounts would take your money and then reclaim the accounts from your with any items you bought or games purchased on them, do not fall for scams like this

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Golden Unicorn:

its a scam those accounts would take your money and then reclaim the accounts from your with any items you bought or games purchased on them, do not fall for scams like this

He isn't buying one.

He's saying Valve needs to do more about them.

[76561199540158642]

why would valve care valve does not have any authority over sale sites, all valve can do is wait for some type of scam to happen and then ban the account in question, the solution is to not become a scam victim.

steams already been asked to remove trading features from games as it intentionally leads to account scams for items, steam has been asked to remove steam wallet fund transfers from accounts as it leads to numerous transaction theft within compromised accounts.

all transactions within steam should be between users and steam only, no users should be dictating a price to another user or allowed to adjust prices of items. all items and steam market items should be set by steam and have a mandatory price applied regardless of the price set by the user.

having people sell steam accounts is one of the flaws in steams armor, which its advised to not buy or engage in purchasing of buying accounts from others.

[Crazy Tiger]

Jurisdictions exist, it's not easy getting such websites shut down when they often are "located" in shady countries, so to speak. Valve having money doesn't change anything about that.

There is a reason piracy websites aren't killed that easily, for example.

Also, managing your expectations will go a long way.

[Piston Smashed™]

Isn't this thread just another call to " I see multiple cheaters per game, every game"...

[Rin]

Valves makes money either way, smurfing is also a tale as old as life itself. Consider everything just a grey area if even if's not,

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by redacted:

You're basically making excuses for a company that has billions of dollars to not enforce their own policies because .... "they're not the internet police"

Um, no, as a customer I expect them to spend that money to enforce their own rules.

What is going on right now is totally unacceptable.

Its not an excuse. Valve has no ability to shut down websites hosted in other countries, often ones that don't respect the laws of countries like the US.

How is Valve supposed to shut down the website? Are they supposed to hire mercenaries to invade the country, storm the server facilities and hold their staff at gunpoint until they purge their servers and delete all the backups?

Not to mention that as soon as you shut down a site it will be back quickly.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Like just report them how hard is to click report please explain to me OP.

Originally posted by brian9824:

Valve does lock the accounts but the websites are in other countries and Valve can't really shut them down.

^This.

Originally posted by Cosa Nostra:

I saw an Etsy seller that made $100,000 within 8 months selling Steam accounts.

These are sharing accounts and the funniest thing is that the Steam account is named literally after the Etsy sellers store.

$5 access to top games like Cyberpunk.

Valve won't close them down even if they are localized.

What Steam can do is lock the account, ban from family sharing. Also the family sharing which I have feeling you don't know the news, is being replace with a new one that hard limits people.
ATM:
- Must be in same country.
- Limit is 6 people in total.
- If leave the family share group you're place on a COOLDOWN for 1 WHOLE YEAR can't join another group.

Guess whom complaining the most, I give a hint it's the 3rd point, and why they're worry when it actually fully release to the public.

Originally posted by redacted:

Originally posted by nullable:

Valve is not the internet police. They have limited control over harebrained things users are determined to do. And they don't control websites the world over just because their store is well known and successful.

Even if Valve gets a few sites taken down, all the rest will still exist, including new ones that pop up all the time. It's not a fair fight. And you being oblivious to that doesn't mean Valve isn't doing anything. It just means you don't understand the scope of the problem.

You're basically making excuses for a company that has billions of dollars to not enforce their own policies because .... "they're not the internet police"

Um, no, as a customer I expect them to spend that money to enforce their own rules.

What is going on right now is totally unacceptable.

Hey yeah police please go arrest someone across the planet he hurt my feelings, yeah oh ok buddy.

Steam can't control the internet, and not practical either to come after every single site on the internet, they can just make a new site in minutes, over & over endlessly, and Steam have to waste MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS just to do so until it becomes billions of dollars wasted to take every site that pop up, to the point it just bankrupt the company, yeah what a great idea....

Anyways the fact is Steam has to contact the site, and tell them to stop, and FIGURE OUT whom hoster of the site, and if it privately owned hosted they can't do anything, but try figure out whom they are to send papers to them, and this is a process that can take months, or years to do go fig, and last I check Steam can't police the world, nor order any country, gov, or authorities to do what they want so yeah maybe realize the real world isn't simple as can imagine it to be, as Steam can only do so much, and it's not humanly possible to know everything going on the internet either as people have to be notify about it hence the point of reporting it.

Originally posted by Golden Unicorn:

why would valve care valve does not have any authority over sale sites, all valve can do is wait for some type of scam to happen and then ban the account in question, the solution is to not become a scam victim.

steams already been asked to remove trading features from games as it intentionally leads to account scams for items, steam has been asked to remove steam wallet fund transfers from accounts as it leads to numerous transaction theft within compromised accounts.

all transactions within steam should be between users and steam only, no users should be dictating a price to another user or allowed to adjust prices of items. all items and steam market items should be set by steam and have a mandatory price applied regardless of the price set by the user.

having people sell steam accounts is one of the flaws in steams armor, which its advised to not buy or engage in purchasing of buying accounts from others.

The problem is OP wants Steam to be this magically mind readers that knows what happen at any given moment on the whole wide internet including access to every other server that not even theirs.


Anyways yeah all Steam can do is ban/lock the account that breaks TOS, and issue is there scammers trying to resell stolen accounts as well so that another big issue.