Account resale is out of control

[1989 Trans Am GTA]

I was checking the many, many websites showing accounts for sale.

To my surprise, I came across a "pro" CS2 account that has actual "Major Medals" for sale.

I also came across someone selling a bulk of 500x CS2 prime accounts for pennies compared to a Prime account.

When is Valve going to do something?

There is at least 20x websites doing this. It's obviously very profitable considering the amount doing it and the giant inventory they have.

It's totally tainted the player base because you can't trust literally ANYONE if the can spoof all the credentials that make an account look legit.

Please, guys, do something about this.

UPDATE 3/26/24: Here is from my latest match in CS2 with at least 8 out of 10 players on bought accounts: https://streamable.com/lx78g7

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by redacted:

Originally posted by Piston Smashed™:

So, we finally went and changed subject from accounts being sold to the real reason for the thread of I see too many cheaters in every game I play in...

The main vector for defeating trust factor is the usage of resold accounts.

They are advertised for "green trust" and "high hours" in order to bypass all the obstacles Valve puts in place to limit cheaters from just hopping on their next account and getting right back into MM where they are ruining the experience for people like me.

Its side-stepping all the good things Valve has done to stop cheaters.

Trust factor doesn't stop cheaters. It just reduces the blast radius. There are other systems in place that stop cheaters that don't care what someone's trust score is.

[1989 Trans Am GTA]

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

Originally posted by redacted:

The main vector for defeating trust factor is the usage of resold accounts.

They are advertised for "green trust" and "high hours" in order to bypass all the obstacles Valve puts in place to limit cheaters from just hopping on their next account and getting right back into MM where they are ruining the experience for people like me.

Its side-stepping all the good things Valve has done to stop cheaters.

Trust factor doesn't stop cheaters. It just reduces the blast radius. There are other systems in place that stop cheaters that don't care what someone's trust score is.

When it comes to people closet cheating, the "blast radius" has been nullified as they've infiltrated high trust.

[1989 Trans Am GTA]

Just wanted to show some people what I am actually seeing in game:

https://streamable.com/lx78g7

[Sleepy Yoshi]

Originally posted by redacted:

Just wanted to show some people what I am actually seeing in game:

https://streamable.com/lx78g7

I've never played Counter-Strike so I don't understand the context of the issue you're showing. What is it that's showing these are or likely are bought accounts?

[The Commendatore]

Originally posted by Sleepy Yoshi:

Originally posted by redacted:

Just wanted to show some people what I am actually seeing in game:

https://streamable.com/lx78g7

I've never played Counter-Strike so I don't understand the context of the issue you're showing. What is it that's showing these are or likely are bought accounts?

OP lost some match but rather than admitting they're better players, they must be cheating and buying accounts, would be my guess.

[Slav Mcgopnik]

Originally posted by redacted:

Just wanted to show some people what I am actually seeing in game:

https://streamable.com/lx78g7

I see you bottom fragging lol.

I haven’t played CS in ages but it seems like the same old arguments, “I only lose because my team is full of idiot account buyers and the other team is smurfs and cheaters”.

[1989 Trans Am GTA]

Originally posted by Sleepy Yoshi:

Originally posted by redacted:

Just wanted to show some people what I am actually seeing in game:

https://streamable.com/lx78g7

I've never played Counter-Strike so I don't understand the context of the issue you're showing. What is it that's showing these are or likely are bought accounts?

So they are all "Level 40" for one, something I see everytime they're in my matches.

They have the 10 year coin and no service medals, meaning it's an older account but has not played the Counter-Strike up until recently.

They all have 1-1-1 or low single digit commends, meaning, if they were around for any amount of time previously, they'd have more commends to show for it.

It's just match after match of this. You know they are accounts that are being used by cheaters to by-pass other account bans/cool-downs so they can hop right into higher trust match-making.

It's like, get banned, buy a new account to use, get banned, buy a new account to use, until that's all that we're seeing in the game.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by Slav Mcgopnik:

Originally posted by redacted:

Just wanted to show some people what I am actually seeing in game:

https://streamable.com/lx78g7

I see you bottom fragging lol.

I haven’t played CS in ages but it seems like the same old arguments, “I only lose because my team is full of idiot account buyers and the other team is smurfs and cheaters”.

The one think that you will hear in every MP game of decent popularity.

[1989 Trans Am GTA]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Originally posted by Slav Mcgopnik:

I see you bottom fragging lol.

I haven’t played CS in ages but it seems like the same old arguments, “I only lose because my team is full of idiot account buyers and the other team is smurfs and cheaters”.

The one think that you will hear in every MP game of decent popularity.

I've been loyal to the game from my account of, you know, not cheating...

I've done more than enough research at this point to understand how to do it and get away with it. I just know if I killed even one person who wasn't cheating while I was, I was officially now a part of the problem.

Just sucks. The trolls here will always have the same tired response of "mad cuz bad" but the issue is larger than that. There's a serious illness inside of gaming and it goes beyond CS2. This desire to be liked/known/praised that is not based on actual accolades, but pixels, has ruined a the digital planet.

I don't want anonymity to end for our digital selves, but something has to be done about the bad actors. It's just a shame all I can do is write on these forums and I have no actual way of enacting the change that I, and I am sure many others, want to see when it comes to this kind of authenticity.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by redacted:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

The one think that you will hear in every MP game of decent popularity.

I've been loyal to the game from my account of, you know, not cheating...

That's nice. You pass the minimum bar for being called a decent human being.

Originally posted by redacted:

I've done more than enough research at this point to understand how to do it and get away with it. I just know if I killed even one person who wasn't cheating while I was, I was officially now a part of the problem.

Said everyone before they get washed out in a ban-wave.

Originally posted by redacted:

Just sucks. The trolls here will always have the same tired response of "mad cuz bad" but the issue is larger than that. There's a serious illness inside of gaming and it goes beyond CS2. This desire to be liked/known/praised that is not based on actual accolades, but pixels, has ruined a the digital planet.

That's a societal and upbringing issue, not a gaming one.

Originally posted by redacted:

I don't want anonymity to end for our digital selves, but something has to be done about the bad actors.

Something is being done. The ban waves the wash through say that. But crooks gonna crook.

Originally posted by redacted:

It's just a shame all I can do is write on these forums and I have no actual way of enacting the change that I, and I am sure many others, want to see when it comes to this kind of authenticity.

And that's probably why these games are still playable and enjhoyable so... hey. there's that.

[Ray]

Not everyone cares about badges and a lot hit level 40 and sit on that. I've plenty of friends who do this for many years now aswell. It's the same with steam level or skins: Not everyone cares about it.

I've to explain something to people in this subforum btw.: OP currently is banned in the cs2 forum again, he has 50+ forum and 3+ community bans for constantly making cheat accusations against people who don't cheat and also names and shames people all the time. He is a so called lolcow which got quite a lot of fame already. Someone similar was very famous for the same thing, he was called Dan M. Everyone knew him and he did the same thing as OP does: Name and shame people with cheat accusations with so called evidence which clearly is not evidence at all, not even close.

OP got interviewed for 5 hours from a youtuber with 100.000 subs (on his main acc):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQPkL7iuRyU
As you notice he and the entire chat can't believe what OP is saying there. It is laughtable and so ridiclious that you think he is trolling.

As any other lolcow he also is not capable of understanding the situation at all and keeps doing it.

If you want to know more about lolcows and how they behave and why people react to them like that I suggest you watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTa_87D5XWg

Lolcow: A person or group of people laughed at for actions that they take, despite not trying to be funny. They may try to take themselves seriously, but are often “milked” for laughs with or without their knowledge

[1989 Trans Am GTA]

Originally posted by Ray:

Not everyone cares about badges and a lot hit level 40 and sit on that. I've plenty of friends who do this for many years now aswell. It's the same with steam level or skins: Not everyone cares about it.

I've to explain something to people in this subforum btw.: OP currently is banned in the cs2 forum again, he has 50+ forum and 3+ community bans for constantly making cheat accusations against people who don't cheat and also names and shames people all the time. He is a so called lolcow which got quite a lot of fame already. Someone similar was very famous for the same thing, he was called Dan M. Everyone knew him and he did the same thing as OP does: Name and shame people with cheat accusations with so called evidence which clearly is not evidence at all, not even close.

OP got interviewed for 5 hours from a youtuber with 100.000 subs (on his main acc):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQPkL7iuRyU
As you notice he and the entire chat can't believe what OP is saying there. It is laughtable and so ridiclious that you think he is trolling.

As any other lolcow he also is not capable of understanding the situation at all and keeps doing it.

If you want to know more about lolcows and how they behave and why people react to them like that I suggest you watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTa_87D5XWg

Lolcow: A person or group of people laughed at for actions that they take, despite not trying to be funny. They may try to take themselves seriously, but are often “milked” for laughs with or without their knowledge

This is harassment.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by redacted:

Originally posted by Ray:

Not everyone cares about badges and a lot hit level 40 and sit on that. I've plenty of friends who do this for many years now aswell. It's the same with steam level or skins: Not everyone cares about it.

I've to explain something to people in this subforum btw.: OP currently is banned in the cs2 forum again, he has 50+ forum and 3+ community bans for constantly making cheat accusations against people who don't cheat and also names and shames people all the time. He is a so called lolcow which got quite a lot of fame already. Someone similar was very famous for the same thing, he was called Dan M. Everyone knew him and he did the same thing as OP does: Name and shame people with cheat accusations with so called evidence which clearly is not evidence at all, not even close.

OP got interviewed for 5 hours from a youtuber with 100.000 subs (on his main acc):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQPkL7iuRyU
As you notice he and the entire chat can't believe what OP is saying there. It is laughtable and so ridiclious that you think he is trolling.

As any other lolcow he also is not capable of understanding the situation at all and keeps doing it.

If you want to know more about lolcows and how they behave and why people react to them like that I suggest you watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTa_87D5XWg

This is harassment.

No it isn't. I can see why this video was never posted though.

[1989 Trans Am GTA]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Originally posted by redacted:

This is harassment.

No it isn't. I can see why this video was never posted though.

Derailing thread I'm in to call me names is 100% harassment.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by redacted:

Originally posted by SlowMango:

No it isn't. I can see why this video was never posted though.

Derailing thread I'm in to call me names is 100% harassment.

Isn't derailing the thread. It's very pertinent to the thread.