Let us reset game stats (Achievements) since you probably wont fix the issues

[SwAlL]

What are the main problems?

1. Broken and not implemented achievements.
   
   As of now, there are thousands of broken achievements in hundreds of games (many Valve games also) with very little hope of a fix. Since many games don't have a dev team behind it - like the infamous Zonitron Productions, who updated their games with thousands of spam achievements just before they were banned from Steam. The achievements were published on the platform but never given a chance to make them obtainable within the game.
   ( https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/1496741765145445448/ )
   
   
2. Fake games / Asset flips that are now exploiting the system by assigning 5000 achievements just for launching their game.
   
   Im pretty sure valve is aware of all the spam games that flooded the market in the last year, with most of them being asset flips with the only sell point made of cards (which now seems to have been dealt with) and achievement spam. Nearly any of these games now puts thousands of useless achievements and even this I guess is a known issue since steam has capped the achievements to 5000 max.
   
   The problem is that any crap game now gives 5000 achievements just for launching the game - which seems like a bad joke to me if only it wasn't ruining the experience of all the other users who do care about this subject! Since achievements keep track of your gameplay, make it fun to complete games, and compete with other users.
   
   Well now it is all completely out of hand, bad games from the past are following suite. People who tried to avoid these kind of games wake up the next morning to discover that 30 games they played a year ago have now 150,000 achievements for idling or just launching the game. I'm sure you won't see this as an issue, "Just get them if you want to regain the 100% completion on it." Well it steams me up to go from 40,000 achievements to 200,000 just because bad devs (if we can call them that) are just exploiting the system for a quick buck here and there.

In a perfect world (platform) the game(s) achievements would work in all the games, and have at least a little meaning. Now I get that this will never happen because it would require Valve to go game by game deleting all broken achievements (or asking devs to fix them.) How will you ever do it since the very first broken ones are yours Valve?
And with the new Steam Direct system - when or how are you going to check for all this trash spam? Simple answer is: never.

So my idea....

So my idea is simple. Let us fix these problems on our own. By giving us the chance to decide which achievements we want to show and those we don't. Let us do it simply by letting us reset the achievements for each game. Obviously resetting it from the Average Game Completion counter aswell. This is the main problem here, because if I reset the achievements, it still coutns as 0% on the AGC...well you get the point.

Would this be the best system possible?

Of course not but when the system was created it was fair not to give this opportunity to the users, so the average game completion would really reflect what you completed and played but now with all these issues it is far better to go the other way.

So for example the Average Game Completion would lose is meaning since anybody could potentially have 100% simply by resetting all the games he started. I assure you that I know what that means since Im someone who had 99,7% with 940 completed games and I now see myself down to 97% due to all these issues. So it is far from the best but I would gladly take it because it would be by far a better solution than the actual.

Please consider it, I really think it would be beneficial from the vast majority of steam users and in the end it wont probably take you too much time to implement.

Regards

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

1. The removed games, maybe. But others that are still available on Steam, that is up to the developers to do.

2. People buy them.

Achievement resets are possible if the developers can do so without breaking the triggers for them. Most of the time they do break.

[MrL0G1C]

Steam-Achievement-Manager can be used to wipe achievements. But many 'achievement hunters' would frown upon it's use... and then they buy achievement spam games because that's OK!!!!!!

[SwAlL]

Originally posted by MrL0G1C:

Steam-Achievement-Manager can be used to wipe achievements. But many 'achievement hunters' would frown upon it's use... and then they buy achievement spam games because that's OK!!!!!!

When you unlock 1 Achievement the following happens:

1) You get +1 in the Achievements Section
2) You get +1 in games played under Average Game completion

So even if you would use a cheating program that is clearly against the code of conduct, you would delete the Achievements but the +1 in the AGC would still be there counting as a 0%.

[airmikee99]

1. Remove the game from your library and it won't show up.

2. Valve is already working towards banning games that are released solely for acheivement spam and trading cards.

[SwAlL]

Originally posted by airmikee99:

1. Remove the game from your library and it won't show up.

2. Valve is already working towards banning games that are released solely for acheivement spam and trading cards.

Im talking about achievements that always show regardless if you delete the game from your library or not. Even if they will stop them, it wont fix the issues with all the previous ones if something dosnt change.

[airmikee99]

Originally posted by SwAlL:

Originally posted by airmikee99:

1. Remove the game from your library and it won't show up.

2. Valve is already working towards banning games that are released solely for acheivement spam and trading cards.

Im talking about achievements that always show regardless if you delete the game from your library or not. Even if they will stop them, it wont fix the issues with all the previous ones if something dosnt change.

Which game continues to show acheivements even if you delete the game from your library? I don't mean deleting it from your computer, I mean deleting it entirely from your library so it never shows up in your library.

[SwAlL]

Originally posted by airmikee99:

Originally posted by SwAlL:

Im talking about achievements that always show regardless if you delete the game from your library or not. Even if they will stop them, it wont fix the issues with all the previous ones if something dosnt change.

Which game continues to show acheivements even if you delete the game from your library? I don't mean deleting it from your computer, I mean deleting it entirely from your library does it never shows up in your library.

All of them.

[airmikee99]

Originally posted by SwAlL:

Originally posted by airmikee99:

Which game continues to show acheivements even if you delete the game from your library? I don't mean deleting it from your computer, I mean deleting it entirely from your library does it never shows up in your library.

All of them.

Riiiiight.

[The Hench© NO GRFX CARD ATM!]

Originally posted by airmikee99:

1. Remove the game from your library and it won't show up.

2. Valve is already working towards banning games that are released solely for acheivement spam and trading cards.

Point 2: I really hope they do. Would love to see the top 'achievement hunters' cry into their breakfast.

I know I have some of these games but I have never 'played' or payed for them. I really can't tell you why I bothered with them as I'm not into achievements for competition so it's of no value in that respect to me.

[The Hench© NO GRFX CARD ATM!]

Limit games to 50 achievements max - that's enough.

[shockedfrog]

I'm in favour of a reset option as a simple approach to fixing these issues which would hopefully take minimal dev time (though it's not always predictable, depends how the system is implemented) and have the most negligible drawbacks from most consumers point of view. In the past I'd have said it's never actually going to happen, because the system exists primarily to give developers/publishers ways of manipulating players into spending more time and money on games/providing free marketing and the issues we have with the system are at least somewhat intentional.

However, with the recent improvements to privacy options, the effectiveness of achievements as a marketing tool will be somewhat reduced anyway, so maybe this is the right time for Valve to make changes to the achievements system which would improve consumer confidence in buying and playing games that are currently being ignored because of concerns regarding achievement stats.

[CUPooUT]

i share Swall point of view in the actual situation... the achievement system on steam is already ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and probably it's late for do anything about it and save it from decay ..but at least let the people delete games from their agc would be a good start for let us do your job (for free)

to The Hench ..i'm with you for the 50 max

[JPMcMillen]

Originally posted by shockedfrog:

I'm in favour of a reset option as a simple approach to fixing these issues which would hopefully take minimal dev time (though it's not always predictable, depends how the system is implemented) and have the most negligible drawbacks from most consumers point of view. In the past I'd have said it's never actually going to happen, because the system exists primarily to give developers/publishers ways of manipulating players into spending more time and money on games/providing free marketing and the issues we have with the system are at least somewhat intentional.

However, with the recent improvements to privacy options, the effectiveness of achievements as a marketing tool will be somewhat reduced anyway, so maybe this is the right time for Valve to make changes to the achievements system which would improve consumer confidence in buying and playing games that are currently being ignored because of concerns regarding achievement stats.

The problem is that each and every dev that ever released a game on Steam that had achievements would have to go back and add that feature to their game. Valve isn't going to do it because they aren't going to modify another companies software and they wouldn't have the technical data to make sure to reset a games flags and counters that were tracking achievement data.

[SwAlL]

Originally posted by JPMcMillen:

The problem is that each and every dev that ever released a game on Steam that had achievements would have to go back and add that feature to their game. Valve isn't going to do it because they aren't going to modify another companies software and they wouldn't have the technical data to make sure to reset a games flags and counters that were tracking achievement data.

The Achievements are on steam not in the software of the companies (they just make a call to the steam api). Even if each game would add that option (some game actually does have it) it wouldnt change since the AGC would still be affected by it.

[wuddih]

will not happen, achievements are handled by the gamedevs, Steam just provides the platform and the tools for them. It is perfectly possible to reset achievements, from within the game, if the dev implements it.