Khronnix Jul 27, 2019 @ 10:45am
Family Sharing is useless.
I really do not understand why I can not play a game on one computer while my child plays a different one on another. I have purchased both games. I am not redistributing the software. I am just letting my child play. I understand there is a complicated world out there full of people looking for ways to steal anything that they can, but this is a very simple problem that many of your customers have. I should not have to purchase a second copy of a game in order to allow my child to play it while I enjoy a different title. Whats worse, is that even if I did purchase a second copy, all of the progress on one game or the other will be lost. Fix this issue for your good customers and stop punishing them.
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Gwarsbane Jul 27, 2019 @ 10:55am 
Because this was the only way developers/publishers were ok with it. They wanted it so that its annoying enough to make people want to buy the game that someone who is sharing it is playing so that they don't need to share it anymore.

Its also designed for a family house hold with 1 computer that everyone shares. Its not meant to share the games with friends or family outside of the 1 house hold.



So this isn't an issue, its working as designed.
Radene Jul 27, 2019 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by Gwarsbane:
Because this was the only way developers/publishers were ok with it. They wanted it so that its annoying enough to make people want to buy the game that someone who is sharing it is playing so that they don't need to share it anymore.

Its also designed for a family house hold with 1 computer that everyone shares. Its not meant to share the games with friends or family outside of the 1 house hold.



So this isn't an issue, its working as designed.

Well, in CURRENT YEAR, chances are, a household has more than just one PC.
Yasahi Jul 27, 2019 @ 11:19am 
Originally posted by Radene:
Well, in CURRENT YEAR, chances are, a household has more than just one PC.

Sure. Doesn't change the fact that if you allowed people to run multiple games at the same time it would cut into the profits of developers and publishers. It's bad from their perspective.

The system would be way more abused than it currently is if the limitation was removed.
Crazy Tiger Jul 27, 2019 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by Yasahi:
The system would be way more abused than it currently is if the limitation was removed.
Exactly, which is why it is as it is.

Originally posted by Khronnix:
Fix this issue for your good customers and stop punishing them.

There is nothing to fix. Take into consideration that you don't purchase games, but a license to play the game. The license is for 1 account and 1 account only. It's always has been like this, only with physical media they never could enforce it.

Family sharing is a good way to let people that are close play each others games.
ElvisDeadly Jul 27, 2019 @ 11:48am 
Its not really designed to be used the way you want to use it. You have to understand that they do want you to buy 2 copies

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
There is nothing to fix. Take into consideration that you don't purchase games, but a license to play the game. The license is for 1 account and 1 account only. It's always has been like this, only with physical media they never could enforce it.

This ^


cSg|mc-Hotsauce Jul 27, 2019 @ 11:50am 
Originally posted by Khronnix:
Whats worse, is that even if I did purchase a second copy, all of the progress on one game or the other will be lost.

Incorrect.

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Tito Shivan Jul 27, 2019 @ 12:02pm 
Because Family sharing was mainly conceived as a way to let family members use your Steam games without having to use your own account (Achivements/playtime/inventory/friends) not as a way to concurrently use your account in two places at the same time.
Spawn of Totoro Jul 27, 2019 @ 12:47pm 
Originally posted by Tito Shivan:
Because Family sharing was mainly conceived as a way to let family members use your Steam games without having to use your own account (Achivements/playtime/inventory/friends) not as a way to concurrently use your account in two places at the same time.

Yep, and I share mine with my son and wife just fine. Game they want to play a lot of, we have no issue with purchasing their copies and games we want to play together, was also have no issue purchasing... we do wait for good sales/deals on all those games though. :lunar2019laughingpig:

Originally posted by Radene:
Well, in CURRENT YEAR, chances are, a household has more than just one PC.

Even with that in mind, we have had no issue. Each of us has our own PC. It is a matter of working together and compromise with each other, just like what sharing is all about.
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NeXuS23 Jul 27, 2019 @ 10:37pm 
Originally posted by Khronnix:
I really do not understand why I can not play a game on one computer while my child plays a different one on another. I have purchased both games...

Yeah it's a bit weird, because they are individual licenses that should be usable individually.

But this doesn't even work for the account holder and licensee itself.

Like I currently have 7 Desktops and 4 Notebooks total and Steam is installed on 5 Desktops and 2 Notebooks, all of them belong to me and on all of them i'm logged in with the my account, yet I can only use one product at once across all.

The Issue becomes especially legally delicate if you consider that those individual licenses are granted to the licensee by different and individual entities.

Like if company X grants me a license for product A and company Y grants me another for product B, it's self-evident that both can be used separately and individually. So yeah it's indeed a bit weird that currently if I start product A from company X, I can't also start product B of company Y without first exiting product A from company X.
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м Jul 27, 2019 @ 10:45pm 
Originally posted by NeXuS23:
Steam is installed on 5 Desktops and 2 Notebooks.

sorry, i'm just curious.
why do you need a single steam account on 7 different devices?

Last edited by м; Jul 27, 2019 @ 10:45pm
Heads up, if you are playing offline your kids ( 1 of ) can play online.
Last edited by Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺; Jul 27, 2019 @ 10:49pm
NeXuS23 Jul 27, 2019 @ 11:12pm 
Originally posted by M:
Originally posted by NeXuS23:
Steam is installed on 5 Desktops and 2 Notebooks.

sorry, i'm just curious.
why do you need a single steam account on 7 different devices?

Well, because of convenience and lazyness I guess.

Like, you get some desktops for working and developing and then another one for playing games to keep the others clean and so you install Steam there. And then you get one for the living room and install Steam there for playing games on TV.

Then you get some notebook for placing before the TV, so that you can conveniently chat and record game videos, so you also install Steam there. Then you get another notebook for the other room and of course that one needs Steam too because you can also use it to chat while playing on the other desktop or to record videos directly over HDMI too.

And then you get a new more powerful desktop for the living room, that of course needs Steam too. And after a while you get an even more powerful desktop that also needs Steam... Of course you could sell some, but why not simply use them in another room instead or as server or as spare or ... And so you simply keep them all. And so on and so forth.

Also don't even ask me what stuff I have archived in the basement, because the amount of hardware in the boxes there is mind blowing, I probably could make an Computer Museum with all that stuff there. There is everything from C64 to Amiga 3000, 8086 to 80486, Pentium to P4, NES to N64 and a box full of handhelds, Motherboards, CPU's, Ram, ISA-EISA-PCI-PCMCIA Cards and ... well like I said mind blowing what gathered there over the years.
Tito Shivan Jul 28, 2019 @ 1:01am 
Originally posted by NeXuS23:
Like if company X grants me a license for product A and company Y grants me another for product B, it's self-evident that both can be used separately and individually. So yeah it's indeed a bit weird that currently if I start product A from company X, I can't also start product B of company Y without first exiting product A from company X.
But both licenses are granted through a service whose use is exclusively personal and non-transferable.
wuddih Jul 28, 2019 @ 4:03am 
https://store.steampowered.com/promotion/familysharing
the intentional use is multiple people with their own account sharing one computer. that it works across multiple devices doesn't make it useless because it doesn't work as you want it to work.

and here is the thing, that is a feature provided by Steam, it doesn't get advertised when you buy products, you dont pay for it in any way, shape of form and ... you have no right on the existence and accessibility of this feature, it is a privilege that you and we have it. they can simply remove it overall or just for you.
NeXuS23 Jul 28, 2019 @ 5:51am 
Originally posted by Tito Shivan:
Originally posted by NeXuS23:
Like if company X grants me a license for product A and company Y grants me another for product B, it's self-evident that both can be used separately and individually. So yeah it's indeed a bit weird that currently if I start product A from company X, I can't also start product B of company Y without first exiting product A from company X.
But both licenses are granted through a service whose use is exclusively personal and non-transferable.

This legally isn't relevant for the licensee, because only the licensors can grant the licenses to the licensee, the store doesn't matter here. So the store DRM must be made in a such way, that the licensee can use those individual licenses granted by individual licensors individually and together if he wish to do so.
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