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Gian 2021 年 6 月 25 日 上午 3:57
Pride Emoticons.
It would be incredible for steam to add pride emoticons/themed items.
Hopefully to represent everybody.
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Mad Scientist 2021 年 6 月 26 日 上午 1:23 
higher quantities don't amount to abuse or spam by default either & moderation seems to agree on this one, so long as the context is actually there for it to provide something of constructive value to the topic.
Yet a thread was edited not too long ago for emote spam.
This is not a place for emoticon art, or making identity flags with emotes in many posts, if you want such behavior I must strongly urge you to visit twitter and reddit, where such is tolerated.

引用自 Mr. Gentlebot
It's a store, for selling video games & software; customers are represented with support, high uptime, a generous refund policy, and the ability to communicate with a developer in their own game hub if they so choose to be active on a game hub.

If you want anything more, twitter/reddit have what you seek.

There is more that people can do for themselves here than just those things[/quote]
If you're hinting at your suggestion - They can do that outside of Steam.

I think that's the pivotal question - especially when they're capable of representing themselves / their own demographic.
Store. Products. Customers. Profit.
You're either in the "Customer" circle, or you're in the "Not a Customer" circle.
Nothing else matters. People can represent themselves outside of the site/service, again; look at the state of things changed for that strict entire purpose you're suggesting, those companies are dying because of it.

If one is unsatisfied with current developers, designers, & publishers... become one!
Which is where their developer-friendly service kicks in, which is as mentioned; Steam representing Customers & Developers. For the sole purpose of business. Developer makes, customers purchase.

Alternatively, demographics could pick 1 person to represent them & then gather their support & resources together to help that person achieve their collective vision - there's options but they do require a certain degree of effort (& good decisions as to who is being backed & how reliable they are).
It would be a better idea to just make a good product, and sell a good product. The moment you focus on anything else, is when you doom it. The only demographic should be "a large amount of people would want to play this, thus becoming customers".

引用自 B✪✪tsy
Steam should stay far away from 'pride' and all other kind of activism BS. We are here to play games, not to promote and display 50+ made up genders and sexual orientations etc. And as shown in this topic you can already create your unicorn rainbow flag with emoticons.
It's more of an "if we do this, we'll have to do more things for more people and groups" which equates to the very business-killing decisions other industries have followed, and are for some reason, still doing despite increased layoffs and inability to profit.

They should stay away from anything other than just selling games.
引用自 Mr. Gentlebot
higher quantities don't amount to abuse or spam by default either & moderation seems to agree on this one, so long as the context is actually there for it to provide something of constructive value to the topic.
Yet a thread was edited not too long ago for emote spam.
This is not a place for emoticon art, or making identity flags with emotes in many posts, if you want such behavior I must strongly urge you to visit twitter and reddit, where such is tolerated.
...

One thread isn't indicative of how the entire forum operates or every time large quantities of emoticons are used anywhere.

Again, context matters ...a lot.


引用自 Mr. Gentlebot
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They should stay away from anything other than just selling games.

What a shame...

Too bad that they've got all of this stuff going on then:

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/#games
https://steamcommunity.com/actions/GroupCreate
https://steamcommunity.com/my/home/
https://steamcommunity.com/my/friends/

https://steamcommunity.com/?subsection=broadcasts
https://store.steampowered.com/stats

https://steamcommunity.com/my/badges/
https://steamcommunity.com/market/
https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/

None of that is "just selling games".

Besides, if you want to get games from a company that makes decisions like Nintendo then perhaps you should just get games from Nintendo.
(Although, even Nintendo ALSO does marketing, which isn't "just selling games" either.)

I think there's a website that specializes in selling just eroges that I heard about twice, which only sells games & does nothing more.


:seewhatyoudid:
꧋ꦙSigismundꦙ꧋ 2021 年 6 月 26 日 上午 2:20 
Just no go with degeneracy somewhere else . It doesn't need cultism and indoctrination.
B✪✪tsy 2021 年 6 月 26 日 上午 2:31 
引用自 Mr. Gentlebot
Yet a thread was edited not too long ago for emote spam.
This is not a place for emoticon art, or making identity flags with emotes in many posts, if you want such behavior I must strongly urge you to visit twitter and reddit, where such is tolerated.
...

One thread isn't indicative of how the entire forum operates or every time large quantities of emoticons are used anywhere.

Again, context matters ...a lot.


引用自 Mr. Gentlebot
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They should stay away from anything other than just selling games.

What a shame...

Too bad that they've got all of this stuff going on then:

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/#games
https://steamcommunity.com/actions/GroupCreate
https://steamcommunity.com/my/home/
https://steamcommunity.com/my/friends/

https://steamcommunity.com/?subsection=broadcasts
https://store.steampowered.com/stats

https://steamcommunity.com/my/badges/
https://steamcommunity.com/market/
https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/

None of that is "just selling games".

Besides, if you want to get games from a company that makes decisions like Nintendo then perhaps you should just get games from Nintendo.
(Although, even Nintendo ALSO does marketing, which isn't "just selling games" either.)

I think there's a website that specializes in selling just eroges that I heard about twice, which only sells games & does nothing more.


:seewhatyoudid:

Thats not Valve/steam, but the community and the companies that sell their games on Steam. Valve provides community features, that is different from Valve actively promoting and mingling in activism.
引用自 B✪✪tsy
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Thats not Valve/steam, but the community ...

Have you read the copyright statement at the bottom of every single page in the community? :
引用自 Valve
© Valve Corporation. All rights reserved

引用自 B✪✪tsy
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Valve provides community features, that is different from Valve actively promoting and mingling in activism.

Okay, sure, but I already commented on that:
...
Valve (probably) isn't going to do this.
...

Although, I think it's funny that people are responding as if they're worried that Valve MIGHT.


Anyways, I also pointed out that developers can do it (which actually IS independent of Valve's business decisions) & this was the response:
引用自 Mr. Gentlebot
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引用自 Mr. Gentlebot
It's a store, for selling video games &

software; customers are represented with support, high uptime, a generous refund policy, and the ability to communicate

with a developer in their own game hub if they so choose to be active on a game hub.

If you want anything more, twitter/reddit have what you seek.

There is more that people can do for themselves here than just those things
If you're hinting at your suggestion - They can do that outside of Steam.
...

They CAN publish elsewhere ...but they can also publish here.

It's a capability. ...& one which all of the Steam & SteamWorks terms permit.

This isn't any more or less the place for publishing games of any kind than any other platform for almost any kind of content that is capable of being published here.
(Sometimes Valve declines to publish something but that's very rare.)


Anyways, it's not like these users are going to.
I've been telling people that if they want it to be different to make their own games for years now... no one ever does. (*lol*)


:seewhatyoudid:
MrL0G1C 2021 年 6 月 26 日 上午 5:54 
Since Steam has had pride sales in the past:
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/lgbtq-sale/

And past steam sales have had their own emoticons:
https://steamcommunity.com/market/search?q=summer+sale+emoticon#p1_default_desc

I see absolutely no reason why an upcoming pride sale shouldn't also have some way to gain pride emoticons.
Mad Scientist 2021 年 6 月 26 日 上午 7:10 
One thread isn't indicative of how the entire forum operates or every time large quantities of emoticons are used anywhere.
Do yourself a favor. Read the rules, that's the thing that remains the same.

引用自 Mr. Gentlebot
They should stay away from anything other than just selling games.
None of that is "just selling games".
Workshop is for mods. Mods help keep games entertaining and add more value = it sells games. Broadcasts help sell games. Groups are a social feature which helps sell the use of Steam itself, ie selling games. You know darn well what we're talking about here.

Besides, if you want to get games from a company that makes decisions like Nintendo then perhaps you should just get games from Nintendo.
You must be unaware of copyright/DMCA takedowns against content creators & users by nintendo, for daring to make mods or make videos about games, especially critical ones. They've also done a DMCA against someone that made a parody game.

I think there's a website that specializes in selling just eroges that I heard about twice, which only sells games & does nothing more.
Again, you know what we're talking about, that or you're just trolling.

引用自 B✪✪tsy
Thats not Valve/steam, but the community and the companies that sell their games on Steam. Valve provides community features, that is different from Valve actively promoting and mingling in activism.

引用自 MrL0G1C
Since Steam has had pride sales in the past:
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/lgbtq-sale/

And past steam sales have had their own emoticons:
https://steamcommunity.com/market/search?q=summer+sale+emoticon#p1_default_desc

I see absolutely no reason why an upcoming pride sale shouldn't also have some way to gain pride emoticons.
If I recall someone else said this was not a valve-created thing but of developers, which is basically them keeping their hands clean of social-political activity; just allowing the sale but not promoting it as other companies do. You can ask developers in that category to make such emoticons that you can purchase in the points shop.

Keep in mind, though; it's an international store, and some of the bigger countries involved have a large issue with certain things acceptable in other countries; companies tend to not want to anger such countries since they're cash cows. Unlike other companies they don't do the whole give you an icon, pretend to be for the thing, and not display the same thing in a country hostile against it; they don't do it at all, because they are just a store and give you some minor social features to go with it. So allowing a dev to make them and sell them in the points shop, would keep Valves hands free of it entirely compared to suggesting they make and promote it themselves.
MrL0G1C 2021 年 6 月 26 日 上午 7:21 
引用自 Mr. Gentlebot
引用自 MrL0G1C
Since Steam has had pride sales in the past:
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/lgbtq-sale/

And past steam sales have had their own emoticons:
https://steamcommunity.com/market/search?q=summer+sale+emoticon#p1_default_desc

I see absolutely no reason why an upcoming pride sale shouldn't also have some way to gain pride emoticons.
If I recall someone else said this was not a valve-created thing but of developers, which is basically them keeping their hands clean of social-political activity; just allowing the sale but not promoting it as other companies do. You can ask developers in that category to make such emoticons that you can purchase in the points shop.

Keep in mind, though; it's an international store, and some of the bigger countries involved have a large issue with certain things acceptable in other countries; companies tend to not want to anger such countries since they're cash cows. Unlike other companies they don't do the whole give you an icon, pretend to be for the thing, and not display the same thing in a country hostile against it; they don't do it at all, because they are just a store and give you some minor social features to go with it. So allowing a dev to make them and sell them in the points shop, would keep Valves hands free of it entirely compared to suggesting they make and promote it themselves.

None of what you said that goes against what I said. Like I said, they already have sales, they are literally having a LGBTA+ sale right now which invalidates your claim that they can't have LGBTA+ stuff. And if they can have an LGBTA+ sale then by extension they can have emoticons for that sale the same as they already have had in the past for other sales.

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/lgbtq-sale/
最后由 MrL0G1C 编辑于; 2021 年 6 月 26 日 上午 7:22
Mad Scientist 2021 年 6 月 26 日 上午 7:27 
引用自 MrL0G1C
None of what you said that goes against what I said. Like I said, they already have sales, they are literally having a LGBTA+ sale right now which invalidates your claim that they can't have LGBTA+ stuff. And if they can have an LGBTA+ sale then by extension they can have emoticons for that sale the same as they already have had in the past for other sales.

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/lgbtq-sale/
Developers make a sale, is not valve actively promoting it, as stated elsewhere. Look at twitter, if you need an example for ValveSoftware and Steam compared to other companies.
Developers may make emoticons for such, valve making such could result in issues from other countries, especially china and the middle east.
MrL0G1C 2021 年 6 月 26 日 上午 7:41 
引用自 Mr. Gentlebot
引用自 MrL0G1C
None of what you said that goes against what I said. Like I said, they already have sales, they are literally having a LGBTA+ sale right now which invalidates your claim that they can't have LGBTA+ stuff. And if they can have an LGBTA+ sale then by extension they can have emoticons for that sale the same as they already have had in the past for other sales.

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/lgbtq-sale/
Developers make a sale, is not valve actively promoting it, as stated elsewhere. Look at twitter, if you need an example for ValveSoftware and Steam compared to other companies.
Developers may make emoticons for such, valve making such could result in issues from other countries, especially china and the middle east.

Complete reality denial, I posted a link showing Valve's store LGBTA+ sale they clearly have done artwork and made a page just for the sale.Your post has descended into complete denialist absurdity.

Here is that link again:

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/lgbtq-sale/
Mad Scientist 2021 年 6 月 26 日 上午 8:21 
引用自 MrL0G1C
Complete reality denial, I posted a link showing Valve's store LGBTA+ sale they clearly have done artwork and made a page just for the sale.Your post has descended into complete denialist absurdity.
The truth is you don't know who made the artwork, regardless the company itself doesn't actively promote such things:

https://twitter.com/valvesoftware
https://twitter.com/Steam
https://twitter.com/Steamworks

So again
Developers may make emoticons for such, valve making such could result in issues from other countries, especially china and the middle east.
There's also the matter that the acceptance is in decline as well, which is typically what happens when attempting to continually push things over time. This is a store, not twitter, the fact they don't change their icons like other companies speaks really well of their stance.
wuddih 2021 年 6 月 26 日 上午 9:07 
the season of pride stuff f.e. is "commissioned[midboss.com]". probably not really "commissioned" but Valve uses non-Valve artists on a regular basis to do artwork for them for sales. pretty sure the stickers for the fate was also done by externals.

fun fact:
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/summer2021
what is that?
https://store.steamchina.com/sale/summer2021
and what is that? ;)
MrL0G1C 2021 年 6 月 26 日 上午 9:12 
引用自 Mr. Gentlebot
There's also the matter that the acceptance is in decline as well, which is typically what happens when attempting to continually push things over time.

Yeah, I think you're simply showing your true colors there, this isn't about whether Valve supports LGBTA+, this is simply you not wanting to see any LGBTA+ and wishing it'd all be swept under the rug and forgotten about. Just because a extremely religious country and an abysmal dictatorship don't like LGBTA+ is not a good reason to start being actively homophobic, there is no good reason to be homophobic.
B✪✪tsy 2021 年 6 月 26 日 上午 9:34 
引用自 MrL0G1C
引用自 Mr. Gentlebot
There's also the matter that the acceptance is in decline as well, which is typically what happens when attempting to continually push things over time.

Yeah, I think you're simply showing your true colors there, this isn't about whether Valve supports LGBTA+, this is simply you not wanting to see any LGBTA+ and wishing it'd all be swept under the rug and forgotten about. Just because a extremely religious country and an abysmal dictatorship don't like LGBTA+ is not a good reason to start being actively homophobic, there is no good reason to be homophobic.
This is typical western arrogance. Just because that in the western world it is moderately accepted it is not automatically the global moral norm even though the activists are pushing it. A lot can be said about the LGBTA+ activists and some of their ideals that are even considered morally wrong/debatable in the western world. The LGBTA+ is a movement with debatable ideals and thats exactly why Valve (and other platforms) should stay clear of that.
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