Import games from another stores

[Eldin]

If we own some games from other stores (Uplay, Origin, GOG, etc.) and those games exists on Steam too, it would be nice if we could import them to our Steam Library.
Because developers already got their money and Valve takes 30% of all sales from Steam, importing game from other Stores should cost 30% of the game price (we get 70% discount on Steam version)

[The Giving One]

Publicado originalmente por Eldin:

If we own some games from other stores (Uplay, Origin, GOG, etc.) and those games exists on Steam too, it would be nice if we could import them to our Steam Library.

We don't own any games here, and I am betting it's the same on those other sites/stores.

EDIT...Well, maybe not with GoG, as they are DRM free.

We have a license to use Steam with our subscriptions (games).

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

And that works as agreed upon, at the time of the sale of those game subscriptions.

[Gwarsbane]

This is 100% upto the developers/publishers of those games. You need to go ask them to provide you with a key that works with the steam version.

In the past some companies did this for really old games that were put on steam but again its 100% up to the developers/publishers of those games, ask them.

[Start_Running]

You would have to talk to the other storefronts about that.

[Eldin]

Publicado originalmente por The Giving One:

Publicado originalmente por Eldin:

If we own some games from other stores (Uplay, Origin, GOG, etc.) and those games exists on Steam too, it would be nice if we could import them to our Steam Library.

We don't own any games here, and I am betting it's the same on those other sites/stores.

EDIT...Well, maybe not with GoG, as they are DRM free.

We have a license to use Steam with our subscriptions (games).

You know what I meant by "own".
Everyone says "own games", even Steam itself.
Game Collector showcase says "Games Owned", not "Licences to Play Games Owned".

[The Giving One]

Publicado originalmente por Eldin:

You know what I meant by "own".
Everyone says "own games", even Steam itself.
Game Collector showcase says "Games Owned", not "Licences to Play Games Owned".

I know what people "usually" mean, yes. I did not know if you were aware or not, though.

[wuddih]

not gonna happen, land of milk and honey idea.

also

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/
is a legal agreement you agreed to and that is the only thing that counts, not the non-relevant alternative word of mouth wording on a user profile.

Valve hereby grants, and you accept, a non-exclusive license and right, to use the Content and Services for your personal, non-commercial use (except where commercial use is expressly allowed herein or in the applicable Subscription Terms). This license ends upon termination of (a) this Agreement or (b) a Subscription that includes the license. The Content and Services are licensed, not sold.

you never own software to begin with.

[Eldin]

Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:

You would have to talk to the other storefronts about that.

I don't think other storefronts would have anything to do with it. They already got their cut and developers got theirs. Valve should only ask developer for premission to activate those games on user's Steam account.

Actually, GOG have a similar feature where you can link your Steam account and import some games to GOG account for free.
https://www.gog.com/connect

[The Giving One]

What about buying in a regular brick and mortar store ?

"Hey, I bought this at that other store, so I should be just able to get it for free here, right ?"

"I mean, the manufacturer already got thier cut since I bought it at the other store, right ?"

[Eldin]

Publicado originalmente por The Giving One:

What about buying in a regular brick and mortar store ?

"Hey, I bought this at that other store, so I should be just able to get it for free here, right ?"

"I mean, the manufacturer already got thier cut since I bought it at the other store, right ?"

You can't compare physical and digital things.

[The Giving One]

Publicado originalmente por Eldin:

You can't compare physical and digital things.

Really ? When each store is in business to make a profit ? I mean, that is a goal of a business, right, to make a profit ?

How are they going to make said profit using your idea ?

Publicado originalmente por Eldin:

Actually, GOG have a similar feature where you can link your Steam account and import some games to GOG account for free.
https://www.gog.com/connect

That has limitations, too.

You'll be able to permanently import all the games listed below to your GOG.com library – assuming you own them. The eligible games are limited-time offers made possible by participating developers and publishers, so stay tuned for more games to come.

[Eldin]

Publicado originalmente por The Giving One:

Publicado originalmente por Eldin:

You can't compare physical and digital things.

Really ? When each store is in business to make a profit ? I mean, that is a goal of a business, right, to make a profit ?

How are they going to make said profit using your idea ?

Developer and store where you bought the game already made profit.
Importing game to Steam would cost 30% of game price (that's how would Steam make profit)
So everyone made profit here

Publicado originalmente por The Giving One:

Publicado originalmente por Eldin:

Actually, GOG have a similar feature where you can link your Steam account and import some games to GOG account for free.
https://www.gog.com/connect

That has limitations, too.

You'll be able to permanently import all the games listed below to your GOG.com library – assuming you own them. The eligible games are limited-time offers made possible by participating developers and publishers, so stay tuned for more games to come.

It has limitations because importing games there is totally free.

[The Giving One]

Publicado originalmente por Eldin:

It has limitations because importing games there is totally free.

But you cannot just import any game, and it says the games that are eligible are limited-time offers made possible by developers/publishers, as the good Gwarsbane said above, with more games to come, according to the text on that page.

[Gwarsbane]

Publicado originalmente por Eldin:

Publicado originalmente por The Giving One:

Really ? When each store is in business to make a profit ? I mean, that is a goal of a business, right, to make a profit ?

How are they going to make said profit using your idea ?

Developer and store where you bought the game already made profit.
Importing game to Steam would cost 30% of game price (that's how would Steam make profit)
So everyone made profit here

What? Valve makes ZERO money off of stuff that is sold on other store fronts. the only time they get 30% is if the game is sold on steam itself. Thats it.

Even places where you buy a steam key on another store, they make ZERO on that. The keys are provided to the games developer/publisher free of charge as long as the game is for sale on the steam store.

For example lets say you own a ubisoft game uplay only and not on steam but that the game is both on steam and uplay. And ubisoft says ok we'll let you import this game to your steam account. And Valve has a simple method to do this by just connecting your uplay account with your steam account (like gog is doing currently). Valve would be doing that for you free of charge. They would be getting nothing for it. Just like whats happening with gog. Those publishers are not paying gog money everytime you import a game you have on steam to their system.


Again though, all this is 100% up to the publisher/developer of the game. They have to decide to allow you to do this. If I remember right at one point one publisher/developer was doing something like this where you could get a steam key for the game and put it into steam. I think it might have been origin at one point, but its been such a long time that I don't remember who it was.

[Eldin]

Publicado originalmente por Gwarsbane:

Publicado originalmente por Eldin:

Developer and store where you bought the game already made profit.
Importing game to Steam would cost 30% of game price (that's how would Steam make profit)
So everyone made profit here

What? Valve makes ZERO money off of stuff that is sold on other store fronts. the only time they get 30% is if the game is sold on steam itself. Thats it.

Even places where you buy a steam key on another store, they make ZERO on that. The keys are provided to the games developer/publisher free of charge as long as the game is for sale on the steam store.

For example lets say you own a ubisoft game uplay only and not on steam but that the game is both on steam and uplay. And ubisoft says ok we'll let you import this game to your steam account. And Valve has a simple method to do this by just connecting your uplay account with your steam account (like gog is doing currently). Valve would be doing that for you free of charge. They would be getting nothing for it. Just like whats happening with gog. Those publishers are not paying gog money everytime you import a game you have on steam to their system.


Again though, all this is 100% up to the publisher/developer of the game. They have to decide to allow you to do this. If I remember right at one point one publisher/developer was doing something like this where you could get a steam key for the game and put it into steam. I think it might have been origin at one point, but its been such a long time that I don't remember who it was.

I don't think you understood my suggestion.
Let's say I own $10 game on Uplay.
If I want to import game to Steam, I pay additional $3 during import process. Those $3 are going to Valve.

Right now if I own game on another store, there's no way I would pay full price again only to get it on Steam.
But paying only additional 30% so I can import it on Steam and use Steam features (Workshop, Screenshots, Cloud, Inviting friends, etc.) is acceptable.

[The Giving One]

But in what you are suggesting, the developer still does not get paid for their game, but only once. According to how I read your suggestion, all the profit of the impot would go to Valve.

So that's why it has to be up to the developers/publishers, as said above. And I kindly refer again to that part about "limited time", that it says on GoG, too. So keep that in mind, as there is a reason they do it for that limited time.

For the GoG comparison, there is more on the FAQ...quite a bit more :

https://www.gog.com/connect#faq