[SUGGESTION] Top <insert game name> Badge : Steam
If you complete more than 90% of all the achievements for a game, you get a Top <insert game name> Badge that will appear on your Steam profile.

E.g. If you play Roller Derby and complete 90% of the achievements, you get a Top Roller Derby fan badge. Team Fortress, you get a Top Team Fortress fan badge.

The badge will only trigger for more than 5 minutes of gameplay.

At a glance, Steam will know what games that player likes as only fans will try to complete achievements and find secrets.

Casuals can't be bothered.
Laatst bewerkt door <™[-=> Cookiez <=-]™>; 28 mei 2019 om 20:13
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Origineel geplaatst door <™-=> Cookiez <=-™>:

At a glance, Steam will know what games that player likes as only fans will try to complete achievements and find secrets.

Casuals can't be bothered.

Except all those people that will just cheat the achievements just to get the badge.

Yes, there is a way to give yourself any achievement in nearly any game on Steam.
Laatst bewerkt door JPMcMillen; 28 mei 2019 om 20:21
Origineel geplaatst door JPMcMillen:
Origineel geplaatst door <™-=> Cookiez <=-™>:

At a glance, Steam will know what games that player likes as only fans will try to complete achievements and find secrets.

Casuals can't be bothered.

Except all those people that will just cheat the achievements just to get the badge.

Yes, there is a way to give yourself any achievement in nearly any game on Steam.

How is that different from anything now?

Do you want to close CS:GO down since it's full of cheaters?

The majority wouldn't cheat and you can't cheat without the game.

With too many achievements, wouldn't you have found a cheater?
Origineel geplaatst door <™-=> Cookiez <=-™>:
Origineel geplaatst door JPMcMillen:

Except all those people that will just cheat the achievements just to get the badge.

Yes, there is a way to give yourself any achievement in nearly any game on Steam.

How is that different from anything now?

Do you want to close CS:GO down since it's full of cheaters?

The majority wouldn't cheat and you can't cheat without the game.

With too many achievements, wouldn't you have found a cheater?

Valve has no intention of giving any kind of rewards for doing achievements, mostly because the system isn't secure. No badges, no levels, no nothing.

All you get is more Achievements Completed, a better Avg. Game Completion Rate, and occasionally an increase in Perfect Games.

The only real reward for achievements is the personal satisfaction of having earned them.
Origineel geplaatst door JPMcMillen:
Origineel geplaatst door <™-=> Cookiez <=-™>:

How is that different from anything now?

Do you want to close CS:GO down since it's full of cheaters?

The majority wouldn't cheat and you can't cheat without the game.

With too many achievements, wouldn't you have found a cheater?

Valve has no intention of giving any kind of rewards for doing achievements, mostly because the system isn't secure. No badges, no levels, no nothing.

All you get is more Achievements Completed, a better Avg. Game Completion Rate, and occasionally an increase in Perfect Games.

The only real reward for achievements is the personal satisfaction of having earned them.

Who says it's for them?

I said it's for data analysis.
Origineel geplaatst door <™-=> Cookiez <=-™>:
Origineel geplaatst door JPMcMillen:

Valve has no intention of giving any kind of rewards for doing achievements, mostly because the system isn't secure. No badges, no levels, no nothing.

All you get is more Achievements Completed, a better Avg. Game Completion Rate, and occasionally an increase in Perfect Games.

The only real reward for achievements is the personal satisfaction of having earned them.

Who says it's for them?

I said it's for data analysis.

Valve can just directly check that if it ever found the need to by just pulling the info up out of their database. I believe even developers/publishers can do that for their own games. There's no need for a 'badge' for them to check to see how many, and what percentage of players, have achieved X% of a particular games achievements.
Origineel geplaatst door JPMcMillen:
Origineel geplaatst door <™-=> Cookiez <=-™>:

Who says it's for them?

I said it's for data analysis.

Valve can just directly check that if it ever found the need to by just pulling the info up out of their database. I believe even developers/publishers can do that for their own games. There's no need for a 'badge' for them to check to see how many, and what percentage of players, have achieved X% of a particular games achievements.

Give it to the developers.

Let them find their top fans.

Facebook is already doing it.

Once again, badges are only for >90%.
Origineel geplaatst door <™-=> Cookiez <=-™>:
Origineel geplaatst door JPMcMillen:

Valve can just directly check that if it ever found the need to by just pulling the info up out of their database. I believe even developers/publishers can do that for their own games. There's no need for a 'badge' for them to check to see how many, and what percentage of players, have achieved X% of a particular games achievements.

Give it to the developers.

Let them find their top fans.

Facebook is already doing it.

Once again, badges are only for >90%.

There will never be a badge related to achievement progress. Never.

If the developer wants to include an achievement that is awarded when a player gets 90% of the games achievements, they can easily do that themselves. But as they can most likely access that information themselves, there really isn't a need for a useless reward of any kind.
People use SAM to get all achievements. Because of that, there won't be a reward for it. A badge is a reward, they have XP.

There is nothing to be gained in data collecting. They already can see the percentages of people who got achievements. We can even see those, with the global statistics.
For the games that a person plays it's also irrelevant. Steam already knows what games people tend to like, thanks to tags and such.
I have 100 % quite a lot of games (100 Steam, 200+ PSN). I wouldn't consider me a fan of most of them.

Achievements are their own thing. They shouldn't have any link to badges.
Origineel geplaatst door JPMcMillen:
Origineel geplaatst door <™-=> Cookiez <=-™>:

Give it to the developers.

Let them find their top fans.

Facebook is already doing it.

Once again, badges are only for >90%.

There will never be a badge related to achievement progress. Never.

If the developer wants to include an achievement that is awarded when a player gets 90% of the games achievements, they can easily do that themselves. But as they can most likely access that information themselves, there really isn't a need for a useless reward of any kind.

Whatever you think.

I think top fan badges are great!
Origineel geplaatst door Crazy Tiger:
People use SAM to get all achievements. Because of that, there won't be a reward for it. A badge is a reward, they have XP.

There is nothing to be gained in data collecting. They already can see the percentages of people who got achievements. We can even see those, with the global statistics.
For the games that a person plays it's also irrelevant. Steam already knows what games people tend to like, thanks to tags and such.

Ok, which do you believe to be more accurate about the player?

Generic Tags?

Or a badge that shows that that person invested extra time to go into every achievement in a particular game?
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Origineel geplaatst door Crazy Tiger:
People use SAM to get all achievements. Because of that, there won't be a reward for it. A badge is a reward, they have XP.

There is nothing to be gained in data collecting. They already can see the percentages of people who got achievements. We can even see those, with the global statistics.
For the games that a person plays it's also irrelevant. Steam already knows what games people tend to like, thanks to tags and such.

Ok, which do you believe to be more accurate about the player?

Generic Tags?

Or a badge that shows that that person invested extra time to go into every achievement in a particular game?

The whole point of what everyone is telling you is that people will be able to get that badge, WITHOUT investing "extra time"; which makes your idea meaningless in the long run.
that what is defined on Steam as a "badge" gives XP for the Steam level.
achievements will never give you XP. therefore this is not going to happen.
Origineel geplaatst door wuddih:
that what is defined on Steam as a "badge" gives XP for the Steam level.
achievements will never give you XP. therefore this is not going to happen.

No one cares about the XP
Origineel geplaatst door <™-=> Cookiez <=-™>:
Origineel geplaatst door Crazy Tiger:
People use SAM to get all achievements. Because of that, there won't be a reward for it. A badge is a reward, they have XP.

There is nothing to be gained in data collecting. They already can see the percentages of people who got achievements. We can even see those, with the global statistics.
For the games that a person plays it's also irrelevant. Steam already knows what games people tend to like, thanks to tags and such.

Ok, which do you believe to be more accurate about the player?

Generic Tags?

Or a badge that shows that that person invested extra time to go into every achievement in a particular game?

Tags. They actually say something about the gaming habits of a player, which genres/types they like to play.

A badge linked to achievements doesn't say much. I've looked at the global achievement stats for various games (RPG, strategy, boardgames, tycoons) and in most cases less than 15% of players actually scores 90% of the achievements, that's not a good indicator. Certainly when you factor in that a certain amount of those have unlocked achievements through SAM.

So the badge would only provide information about that small percentage of players, while tags provide information across the board.
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